Kazaa, Downloads and Full Version PC games [Archive]

Fragmastar

08-24-2003, 09:09 AM

Has anyone ever done this? Has anyone ever downloaded a full, that's right, I said full, version of a PC game on Kazaa? It can take a few hours, even with a modem of 128 k speed. And lots of Spyware can hack into your PC but you don't even pay a penny.

You get the full version for FREE! You have to agree with some policies, like do not distribute, though.

Did you ever dl a full game off Kazaa?

E.T.

08-24-2003, 09:58 AM

<div class=\"smallfont\">Has anyone ever done this? Has anyone ever downloaded a full, that's right, I said full, version of a PC game on Kazaa? It can take a few hours, even with a modem of 128 k speed. And lots of Spyware can hack into your PC but you don't even pay a penny.

You get the full version for FREE! You have to agree with some policies, like do not distribute, though.

Did you ever dl a full game off Kazaa?</div>

...hmmm, interesting, but I think I'll collect my games the old fashioned way [buy the CD].
Christ, could you imagine waiting all that time, enduring God knows what hackware installations & then having a "Failed Connection"
notice? :D

You raise a good "Q" here Fragmaster "has anyone ever done this?" :confused:

Fragmastar

08-24-2003, 11:32 AM

^

I downloaded the full version of Microsoft Flight Simulator 2004 from Kazaa. Yeah, more than a dozen hacking systems got into my PC but I backed up my defense with Spyware/Adware Remover and ZoneAlarm Firewall.

The game ran smoothly and my computer still worked fine.

E.T.

08-24-2003, 01:00 PM

Thast surprising, but maybe not considering all the defenses you had in place. I guess whats surprising to me is that "the game ran smoothly" for such a massive dowload [I gotta admit my amazement, considering the size of MS Flight Simm '04].
BTW, is the sim as good as "they" say it is?

Fragmastar

08-24-2003, 04:37 PM

<div class=\"smallfont\">BTW, is the sim as good as "they" say it is?</div>

It's the best sim I've played yet! If you really wanna be a pilot but can't, you should go for the second best thing, and that is playing this game.

E.T.

08-24-2003, 07:01 PM

Ive read a few reviews on this new release, many pros on engine/graphics/model detail etc. Thats all well & good, BUT,in the most simple of terms Fragmaster, is MS Flight Sim '04 fun?
I know "fun" is a subjective term, so I compare the following flight sims to fun: Janes F15= not so fun, Janes WW2= fair amount of fun, Mig Alley= lotsa fun.
[If youre a serious desktop pilot, my apologies in advance for asking what fun has to do with flight sims.] :D
Maybe I should stick w/space sims.....

Suicides-by-Steve

08-24-2003, 07:33 PM

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Did you ever dl a full game off Kazaa?</div>

LOL I take it you've never heard of Internet Relay Chat?

Renzatic Gear

08-25-2003, 06:26 AM

You do know that all pirates eventually go to hell, right? I mean it's breaking 2 commandments: Thou Shall Not Steal..cuz you're stealing software..and Thou Shalt Not Kill...cuz for every copy of a game you steal that keeps a game developer from eating, and they'll eventually die of starvation. You're all a bunch of really bad people.

By the way, Steve...what's a hypocrite?

ShotgunShy

08-25-2003, 06:44 AM

Renzatic Gear

08-25-2003, 07:00 AM

On top of that, indulging in any kinds of downloads off Kazaa could get you into hot water with the IRAA these days. I've found it hard to control my downloading habits, but I did manage to keep my Kazaa usuage minimal. Stay on the safe side and be careful.

Actually the RIAA isn't much to worry about at the moment, what with Kazaa Lite blocking any attempt by them to harvest IP addresses and the US government saying that their subpoenas are basically useless and illegal without being reviewed by a judge...

For the time being they're out of the game, but like any good supervillan they'll eventually hatch a crazy new scheme.

Fragmastar

08-25-2003, 08:10 AM

Hey ET, MS Flight Sim 2004 is really fun to play. Since you're a sim fan, hell, you'll love it!

BTW, Steve, I have heard of IRC but I don't have it.

Ahhhh....Oh no!!!! The RIAA is coming!!!! Head for the hills!!!! Run for your lives!!!!!

The RIAA can R-I kiss my ass!

This is the part where I'm supposed to get my throat slit, right?

ShotgunShy

08-25-2003, 09:40 AM

Yeah trust me, the RIAA gets on my nerves too. But, hey, since I'm all the way up in Canada, I have geographical immunity :D

However, there's nothing more I hate than downloading a piece of software off kazaa (eg. return to castle wolf.) and finding that it turns out to be something totally unrelated (eg. britney's dance beat). Yeah... not very nice...

Fragmastar

08-25-2003, 10:11 AM

Heh....You lucky Canucks people!

BTW, speaking of wasting time by downloading the wrong software, it happens in music/mp3s too. Once, I wanted to download a song by System of a Down but it ended being a lame pop song from Creed! Yuck!

ShotgunShy

08-25-2003, 10:19 AM

<div class=\"smallfont\">Once, I wanted to download a song by System of a Down but it ended being a lame pop song from Creed! Yuck!</div>

Hey! Creed can cream System of Down anyday! (Pop?! pfff!)

;)

Static_Fred

08-25-2003, 05:15 PM

I know people that absolutely dont' buy games because they steal them off of Kazaa. This actually pisses me off, because there are definitely a handful of game developers out there that deserve to get paid. So... what i'm trying to say is... let the cyber pimping begin?

Aim69

08-26-2003, 04:26 PM

<div class=\"smallfont\">Hey ET, MS Flight Sim 2004 is really fun to play. Since you're a sim fan, hell, you'll love it!

BTW, Steve, I have heard of IRC but I don't have it.

Ahhhh....Oh no!!!! The RIAA is coming!!!! Head for the hills!!!! Run for your lives!!!!!

The RIAA can R-I kiss my ass!

This is the part where I'm supposed to get my throat slit, right?</div>

Sure.. If the RIAA came knocking on your door can you afford a lawyer? Can you afford the stiff penalities that will be leveled against you, because no judge will side w/ someone who steals content from other people. Were talking about $750-10,000 per song. Can you afford this? Can you afford to take off work and attend your court case?

If you can then go ahead.. But the fact that the RIAA is cracking down on illegal pirating is true. People can laugh all they want, but if you do get that letter, then I feel sorry for you. Your not going to win.

Suicides-by-Steve

08-26-2003, 08:38 PM

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If you can then go ahead.. But the fact that the RIAA is cracking down on illegal pirating is true. People can laugh all they want, but if you do get that letter, then I feel sorry for you. Your not going to win.</div>

Damn, just plead your case on message boards and ***** and watch the donations come rolling in to pay for you legal defence funds... people won't put up with this jack-booted ****... Who's the friggin' robbers here? Us, who download the occasional tune, or the companies that still insist on charging 25 bucks a CD, for something that cost 5 bucks to burn and package? Pfft- they can go to hell too in my books... I'll take my chances anyday. If they come after me, when there's others who have terabytes of MP3's on multiple servers, then the government are bigger fools than I thought.

Aim69

08-26-2003, 10:19 PM

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Damn, just plead your case on message boards and ***** and watch the donations come rolling in to pay for you legal defence funds... people won't put up with this jack-booted ****... Who's the friggin' robbers here? Us, who download the occasional tune, or the companies that still insist on charging 25 bucks a CD, for something that cost 5 bucks to burn and package? Pfft- they can go to hell too in my books... I'll take my chances anyday. If they come after me, when there's others who have terabytes of MP3's on multiple servers, then the government are bigger fools than I thought.</div>

Steve...

They aren't really going after the casual Kazaa user. There mainly going after people that have downloaded huge volumes of songs. I'm talking thousands and thousands of songs that a user may have downloaded. But what they hope to do is to scare off casual users like you and me. It would cost to much money to go after every person.

Fragmastar

08-27-2003, 05:30 AM

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They aren't really going after the casual Kazaa user. There mainly going after people that have downloaded huge volumes of songs. I'm talking thousands and thousands of songs that a user may have downloaded. But what they hope to do is to scare off casual users like you and me. It would cost to much money to go after every person.</div>

The good news is that I'm a casual user. I have only downloaded 11 songs, 2 videos and one full version game.

"But what they hope to do is to scare off casual users like you and me." - Aim69

I'm not afraid of the RIAA! I just laugh at them, instead. I know a lot of good sites that make parody videos about the RIAA. I'm really proud of the folks who took their time to make the films.

Renzatic Gear

08-27-2003, 06:10 AM

SHHHH! Guys! Tha RIAA is comin...and dey got Odell wit em! Run before Odell hea's bout what you said an beats you up!

DBS

08-27-2003, 04:06 PM

Yeah, I read that now the only way they are catching these theives is by visiting game forums and finding dolts who post they steal.

(hehe-ok..alittle light on a rather dark day for me.)

Fragmastar

08-27-2003, 04:55 PM

<div class=\"smallfont\">Yeah, I read that now the only way they are catching these theives is by visiting game forums and finding dolts who post they steal.

(hehe-ok..alittle light on a rather dark day for me.)</div>

I'm starting to feel suspicious......DBS, I think you work for the RIAA and you are visiting this forum in hopes of catching theives.

No, I'm just kidding! :D

DBS

08-27-2003, 08:18 PM

I don't mind finding deals on software but when you start downloading full games without paying a cent (even from MS) you are one component that is causing all this damn screwy safedisk troubles as they keep messing up our software with anti piracy crap that never really works. Except they do seem to make the games run even worse than they should. It seems there has to be a better technology someday.

ShotgunShy

08-27-2003, 09:12 PM

<div class=\"smallfont\">It seems there has to be a better technology someday.</div>

I don't know how much better it is, but you may have heard about those "self-destruct DVDs". What's basically happening is that you're allowed to use the DVD only a certain number of times, after which it 'self-destructs', i.e. thru some chemical reactions the DVD just refuses to work. I don't know the details, but I do know that they've already used it for promotional DVDs at the time the movie "Die Another Day" was coming out. While it certainly is a an interesting way to go about the 'problem', I for one don't like the idea. I mean, I'd like to use my DVD/CD as much as I want, thank you very much.

::cool::

DBS

08-28-2003, 03:02 PM

Yeah, not sure I like that idea. Although I do rarely use the actual cd or dvd media as I am one to almost always get a no cd crack for 2 reasons, 1- better performance on my older computer
2- I have adding disks or swapping them. I have enough HD space that I always do a full install and keep my cds put away.
The idea that the OF people did of a copy not working for long was an interesting protection I had no problem with. But any that do the cd check should be thrown out the window.
Now that we are back talking burning software where is our Asian burning king? I have seen little of him in the last few months- must of went to the dark side !

Static_Fred

08-31-2003, 08:23 AM

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I don't know how much better it is, but you may have heard about those "self-destruct DVDs". What's basically happening is that you're allowed to use the DVD only a certain number of times, after which it 'self-destructs', i.e. thru some chemical reactions the DVD just refuses to work. I don't know the details, but I do know that they've already used it for promotional DVDs at the time the movie "Die Another Day" was coming out. While it certainly is a an interesting way to go about the 'problem', I for one don't like the idea. I mean, I'd like to use my DVD/CD as much as I want, thank you very much.

::cool::</div>

Interesting idea, but wouldn't people figure out the right chemical combination to apply to the DVD to prevent the chemical reaction from happening?

ShotgunShy

08-31-2003, 11:16 AM

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Interesting idea, but wouldn't people figure out the right chemical combination to apply to the DVD to prevent the chemical reaction from happening?</div>

Well the idea would be to have that chemical reaction occur not on the outer layer of the DVD, but on the inside. I'm not sure how anyone could screw around with that, but hey, they've been surprises before right? So I guess anything could be possible.

Suicides-by-Steve

08-31-2003, 01:30 PM

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Well the idea would be to have that chemical reaction occur not on the outer layer of the DVD, but on the inside. I'm not sure how anyone could screw around with that, but hey, they've been surprises before right? So I guess anything could be possible.</div>

Hmmm, maybe by smearing it on the top foil... Doesn't sound like anything I would want to be doing either way... If they started making Exploding DVD, or self-destructing DVD's, I wouldn't buy them, no matter what, if they were game rentals or movies, I would be concerned as well, since it's such a waste of plastics, natural, and land-fill resources. The industry should be ashamed of themselves if this goes mainstream.

Static_Fred

08-31-2003, 02:50 PM

ShotgunShy

09-13-2003, 01:11 PM

Just thought you might want to read this article since it's related to the above discussion:

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=LALHHSEF3NF24CRBAEKSF FA?type=technologyNews&storyID=3438224

It's good to know these things are not too popluar yet.

Suicides-by-Steve

09-13-2003, 09:06 PM

<div class=\"smallfont\">Just thought you might want to read this article since it's related to the above discussion:

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=LALHHSEF3NF24CRBAEKSF FA?type=technologyNews&storyID=3438224

It's good to know these things are not too popluar yet.</div>

It's a no-brainer! Why buy these things if you can rent them from Blockbuster!? Plastics use our fossil fuels... right? They fill up landfills, and a whole other load of problems... bad, bad, bad... It's so wasteful it makes me want to puke...

Friend_Bear

09-21-2003, 08:03 PM

I *used* to frequently download games on Kazaa, and to be honest I think its quite reasonable to download full version of games that i'm not prepared to spend valuble money on otherwise, since I take this approach isn't really damaging the market since they wouldn't have got my cash for the product in the first place so who cares?

Also who is prepared to spend money on half finished/bug ridden games that arn't even that much fun to play? Only the developers and publishers have themselves to blame.

Also I like to point out that I do buy games, quite a lot of games in fact but I carefully pick and choose from whats definately worth hard cash and that isn't many these days, last game I brought was lionheart: Legacy of the Crusader, that was a few days ago costing £30 and is more or less a good game.......coughs.......

I'm not scared of the RIAA since i'm not American, also I use kazaalite and a firewall etc.....The riaa do make good points but there implementation is seriously flawed

Friend_Bear

09-21-2003, 08:11 PM

<div class=\"smallfont\">You do know that all pirates eventually go to hell, right? I mean it's breaking 2 commandments: Thou Shall Not Steal..cuz you're stealing software..and Thou Shalt Not Kill...cuz for every copy of a game you steal that keeps a game developer from eating, and they'll eventually die of starvation. You're all a bunch of really bad people.

By the way, Steve...what's a hypocrite?</div>

I'm not a religious person or do I mock other peoples religions but how can one say that you are going to hell when uncategorically it is unproven such a place exists?

I could say my toilet is hell after i've eaten a curry but thats different :-p lol And i'm definately sure you don't want to go there!

However on a lighter note though, isn't it also wrong for software companys overcharging, price fixing and even releasing half finished games that require a dozen patches to fix the game into a stable/finished version of the final product......months after you've spent your hard earned cash?

Personally, I think its ok more or less to download full games as long as you don't make profit from them such as burning them and then selling them to other people, thats definately wrong.

OahuSilverado

09-29-2003, 02:55 PM

Actually the RIAA isn't much to worry about at the moment, what with Kazaa Lite blocking any attempt by them to harvest IP addresses and the US government saying that their subpoenas are basically useless and illegal without being reviewed by a judge...

For the time being they're out of the game, but like any good supervillan they'll eventually hatch a crazy new scheme.

Besides, the RIAA is all about the RECORDING industry and not about the GAMING industry. So, until the GAMING industry starts flexing its mojo, we're all pretty safe for now, although I have not done it myself, I do use KazallLite!