March NPD aka Motorwho Motorwhat

[DrunkenThumbmaster]

HW Sales
Nintendo DS 508K
PlayStation 2 280K
Wii 259K
Xbox 360 199K
PlayStation Portable 180K
Game Boy Advance 148K
PlayStation 3 130K (AHHH Fresh Air)
GameCube 22K
Xbox n/a

Software Sales

1. God of War II (PS2) Sony
2. Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter 2 (360) Ubisoft
3. Guitar Hero 2 W/ Guitar (360) Red Octane/Activision
4. Wii Play (Wii) Nintendo
5. MotorStorm (PS3) Sony
6. Major League Baseball 2k7 (360) 2K Games
7. MLB '07: The Show (PS2) Sony
8. Def Jam Icon (360) Electronic Arts
9. Guitar Hero 2 W/Guitar (PS2) Red Octane/Activision
10. God of War (PS2) Sony
11. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories (PS2) Rockstar
12. Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07 (Wii) Electronic Arts
13. Crackdown (360) Microsoft
14. Sonic and the Secret Rings (Wii) Sega
15. TMNT (PS2) Ubisoft
16. Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Wii) Nintendo
17. Gears of War (360) Microsoft
18. Major League Baseball 2K7 (PS2) 2K Games
19. Warioware: Smooth Moves (Wii) Nintendo
20. Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (PS3) Bethesda

Look at those 360 software numbers when did GH2 come out? Motorstorm did reasonable I guess but it moved no hardware. The NDS is a monster Sony is going to have to realisticly look at a price cut. Or basically cut off development for the PS2 because I think they may be canbiliazing themselves.

Didn't lastword say that starting in March the PS3 would dominate? Didn't he? Hmm right on about that one. Wii still going strong.

I'm starting the count down to the multiplat announcement of FFXIII

[DrunkenThumbmaster]

The top 10 software sales numbers from Gaf.

PS2 GOD OF WAR II 833K
360 TOM CLANCY'S GHOST RECON: ADVANCED WARFI 394K
360 GUITAR HERO 2 W/ GUITAR 291K
WII PLAY W/ REMOTE 273K
PS3 MOTORSTORM 199K
NDS DIDDY KONG RACING 189K
NDS SPECTROBES 165K
360 MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL 2K7 165K
PS2 MLB '07: THE SHOW 164K
360 DEF JAM ICON 148K

[PapaSmurf]

I think cutting off developement for the PS2 would be stupid on Sony's part as they are making money off of it. God of War, God of War II, and MLB 07 The Show in the top ten is just money in the bank for them as those are first party games. With PS2 sales like that and the PSP not doing bad by any means Sony definitely isn't in bad shape. They might as well ride the wave until the PS3 can start picking up the heat on it's own.

I wouldn't be surprised if developers took not of this and kept coming out with some new PS2 games actually. I mean if people are going to keep buying it you might as well keep supporting it.

[Dancer O_o]

Wii 259K

PlayStation 3 130K (AHHH Fresh Air)



Friday afternoon Dancer rant:

PS3 is selling almost exactly half of what the Wii sold. Do you think if the Wii did not exist yet the PS3 would be selling better? I do not.

Sony can't abandon the PS2 at this time, I wouldn't if I were them. It would be like saying I don't want 50 million a month for free when I can have almost nothing at all for a long time coming with the PS3. PS2 support will fade away pretty quick anyway when just one developer makes a good game on the PS3 and makes a whole pile of cash for it, then everyone will want to have that same success and actually start making good games. When the price of games went up by 10 bones I thought it was a greedy mistake by Microsoft and Sony both, now I am sure it was a greedy mistake. Game prices should have stayed as low as possible for as long as possible (another 10 years) because the gaming business is actually a rather small affair and gamers are fickle in nature, there's no telling what gamers will flock to and claim as a christly app. That guitar game is a prime example of which I speak, the game literally has zero appeal to me just like Dance Dance games, yet everytime I go to Best Buy I see some chump walking out with a Guitar peripheral for this game under arm.

Sony is "revisiting the pricing strategy" as they quoted the other day, whatever that means. Personally I think it means "What the hell is going on here, we're sucking wind man!". If Sony was determined to sell PS3s for so much then they should have kept software at 50 bones, this would have at least been viewed as a good will effort on Sony to make it clear they want to be competitive and keep the support of their loyal following and would have put Microsoft in a bad spot as looking like asses for charging so much for software that is no better. Sony would have smelled like a rose and probably sold more consoles to boot, and MS would be like "eh, we can do that too, see!", but too little too late. Instead, we have Sony looking like their console is higher in cost with no better graphics and the games cost the same for titles that often look and play better on the cheaper 360. Another problem, the average consumer doesn't need to study up to find all this out really, because just going to the store makes it clear that mom and pop are going to get what is affordable and makes sense, Sony's console philosophy so far makes very little sense "Pay the most and get meh for the forseeable future"

[silversparrow]

So God of War II has jolted the first game back to the top 10? It's pretty ironic that Sony's strong support for the PS2 (up until the release of GOWII), coupled with the multitude of bargain priced games for the system are the greatest factors holding back the PS3. Had Sony abandoned the PS2 a year sooner and focused all their efforts on building a strong 1st gen PS3 lineup we would be hearing a different story.

[thelastword]

Didn't lastword say that starting in March the PS3 would dominate? Didn't he? Hmm right on about that one. Wii still going strong.Why don't you quote me when you make these statements. Obviously, the expectation with such an assessment would be that titles like Lair and Hsword would hit store shelves in march as well. Selling 130k of a $600 system is not too bad considering that their previous console is in such demand and doing so well.

The PS2 outsold every single console out there, not just the PS3. If you really checked the figures un-biasedly, you would also realize that the 360's figures wasn't too far off from the PS3 and the XBOX1 isn't exactly topping the charts in kind. When more of the high profile games start to drop for the PS3, then the transition from PS2 to PS3 will be noted and that's not afar off, as the last great exclusive for the PS2 just landed in mid-march.

[Glockstar]

Hey. Everybody see Crackdown there on the list? See it there at number 13? Good. 'Cause that should end all that bs talk about it being a 'Halo 3 Beta with free Crackdown game', hah. :mad:

[Glockstar]

...when did GH2 come out?

Good question, DT. Because I thought it came out April 3rd. :confused:

[Gadfly2317]

Friday afternoon Dancer rant:

PS3 is selling almost exactly half of what the Wii sold. Do you think if the Wii did not exist yet the PS3 would be selling better? I do not.

And the Wii is selling every unit produced still (shipping units to regions all over the world, and the number here just represents NA.) Ps3 would be selling far less than 1/2 the Wii if there were more Wii's.

[ThaMaskedGamer]

I guess we can say the PS3 is NOT the most important device, hell, since um last week. Since never.

First of all, MS selling a bit below the PS2 and Wii is no big deal. It cost 2 or 3 times more than them! The key thing is it is selling more software and leading in software sales amongst any videogame product out there right now! It is winning!

People saying XBOX cannot support unconventional games. Umm 350,000 copies of GH2, a PS2 port, proves otherwise. As I said before years ago, MS was smart to stop making these kinds of games internally, and focus on coaxing people who are good at it, to bring these games to 360. Now there are games from Katamari, Dead Rising, to Guitar Hero2. And 350k in a few days means XBOX gamers will support these products fool azz publishers, so if you want to make money, a pot of gold is waiting for you.

PS3 is in serious trouble. Sure they don't have Lair, yet, but why will Lair be any different than Motorstorm in terms of selling systems? I mean the console has F1, Motorstorm, Oblivion and VF5, plus RFOM. Anybody who says four good to great games is not enough to move systems is crazy! That is enough quality games, hell after buying a PS3 a consumer would not even have enough money to buy all 4 of those games. So there is content there, there are units on the shelf, there are Blu-ray movies, people just don't want the PS3. Sony has to figure out why, hey Sony i've given you a road map to success in my post, for free! And i'm suppose to be a Sony hater!

Hey I have a question. What is Wii Play? Nintendo might be bathing in buttermilk now, but lemme tell you, they better start moving some EA shyat, some Ubisoft shyat, some Capcom shyat! They better start or what lil' 3rd party support they got is gonna dry up.

Again, each one of these consoles has problems right now, but hell if i'm MS i'm happy! I haven't had to drop the price of my console! Hell i've even come out with a premium system. And, I am winning, yet I have yet to drop my Halo BOMB! Remember when everybody said MS would have to drop Halo3 when PS3 launched! Wow they guessed right and now they will hit Sony with it in the 3rd round when they are sucking wind. MS is in a good position. They just gotta fix these units, stop bricking units, and get that faulty unit perception behind them like Sony did with the PS2 after it launched buggy as hell.

[Glockstar]

Well I'm seeing the exact same hardware numbers across numerous sites so I have to assume that they're correct. In which case, it's official: The PS3 is in last place.

Through the first five months of availability the PS3 has sold a total of 1,188,354 units here in the U.S... the 360 sold 1,209,000.

Last place. Who woulda thunk it?!

[trebor]

Hey I have a question. What is Wii Play? Nintendo might be bathing in buttermilk now, but lemme tell you, they better start moving some EA shyat, some Ubisoft shyat, some Capcom shyat! They better start or what lil' 3rd party support they got is gonna dry up.

12. Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07 (Wii) Electronic Arts

All things considered, that's pretty fricking amazing, if you ask me. Thing is, that game was produced so cheaply that EA easily made money with it. Ubisoft has done well enough with the Wii so far, but to be honest, they've released 1 good game and, like, 6 or 7 crap titles.

[Gamer From '78]

HW Sales
Nintendo DS 508K
PlayStation 2 280K
Wii 259K
Xbox 360 199K
PlayStation Portable 180K
Game Boy Advance 148K
PlayStation 3 130K (AHHH Fresh Air)
GameCube 22K
Xbox n/a

Software Sales

1. God of War II (PS2) Sony
2. Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter 2 (360) Ubisoft
3. Guitar Hero 2 W/ Guitar (360) Red Octane/Activision
4. Wii Play (Wii) Nintendo
5. MotorStorm (PS3) Sony
6. Major League Baseball 2k7 (360) 2K Games
7. MLB '07: The Show (PS2) Sony
8. Def Jam Icon (360) Electronic Arts
9. Guitar Hero 2 W/Guitar (PS2) Red Octane/Activision
10. God of War (PS2) Sony
11. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories (PS2) Rockstar
12. Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07 (Wii) Electronic Arts
13. Crackdown (360) Microsoft
14. Sonic and the Secret Rings (Wii) Sega
15. TMNT (PS2) Ubisoft
16. Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Wii) Nintendo
17. Gears of War (360) Microsoft
18. Major League Baseball 2K7 (PS2) 2K Games
19. Warioware: Smooth Moves (Wii) Nintendo
20. Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (PS3) Bethesda

Look at those 360 software numbers when did GH2 come out? Motorstorm did reasonable I guess but it moved no hardware. The NDS is a monster Sony is going to have to realisticly look at a price cut. Or basically cut off development for the PS2 because I think they may be canbiliazing themselves.

Didn't lastword say that starting in March the PS3 would dominate? Didn't he? Hmm right on about that one. Wii still going strong.

I'm starting the count down to the multiplat announcement of FFXIII

Five months straight, no hardware shortages and Sony STILL can't surpass Xbox 360 for a single month of sales. Not to mention SIX 360 games in the top 20 and only TWO for the PS3. Meanwhile, Wii continues to dominate both systems and has FIVE titles in the top 20. Teh fresh air just keeps on coming. :thumbsup:

[folken001]

I wonder who is more sorry here? Supposedly 360 is a better console with better games and it outsold ps3 who has NO games by 60-70k? You xbots are dancing and singing already? Are you kidding me?

Yea Sony is so sorry. Sony is dead last. Wait, how many did PS2 sell? Oh PS2 doesnt' count right? That's so last gen. Let's just ignore the 300k Sony just sold. Man, how can Sony ever win?

[thelastword]

Exactly! it's funny that no one mentions that the PS2 outsold the Wii. Of course it's a Sony console, so perhaps that why. Is it a bad thing that the PS3 is close to 360 in sales whilst the PS2 has outsold everything else. Is that really bad for Sony that God of War 2 sold 833k for the month?

Yes PS3 sales need to pickup, but do any of you guys here doubt that it will, now that's the question.

[Gamer From '78]

Exactly! it's funny that no one mentions that the PS2 outsold the Wii. Of course it's a Sony console, so perhaps that why. Is it a bad thing that the PS3 is close to 360 in sales whilst the PS2 has outsold everything else. Is that really bad for Sony that God of War 2 sold 833k for the month?

Yes PS3 sales need to pickup, but do any of you guys here doubt that it will, now that's the question.

Well, I believe that we are talking current-gen systems here. That's the consensus anyway. I can't take anything away from the PS2, but you Milkdrinkers are delusional if you think the PS3 selling WORST and being in LAST PLACE in the current-gen race isn't a significant problem.

And I'll tell you right now-PS3 sales WON'T PICK UP ANYTIME SOON! Not until their is a price-drop. Take it to the bank.

While you are waiting for those sales to pick up LastLoad, why don't you go play another sub-par PS3 game. I think F.E.A.R would be right up your alley since you seem to love Sony's lackluster software library. :thumbsup:

[Gamer From '78]

I wonder who is more sorry here? Supposedly 360 is a better console with better games and it outsold ps3 who has NO games by 60-70k? You xbots are dancing and singing already? Are you kidding me?

Yea Sony is so sorry. Sony is dead last. Wait, how many did PS2 sell? Oh PS2 doesnt' count right? That's so last gen. Let's just ignore the 300k Sony just sold. Man, how can Sony ever win?

Ooh...yes Folkey! Wii not have enough hardware to meet demand. So Sony PS2 beat out by 21k the Wii. Wii double PS2 price. Games full price compare to PS2 budget price game. If Wii had more system for sale, it would kill PeeS2 in sale. Oh, Nintendo doomed! How can they fight back? Xbox 360 is bad. It sale more than PS3. But it still bad. I sign petition because Devil May Cry loyal Capcom should be. Make me tear in eyes and very angry. :rolleyes:

[DrunkenThumbmaster]

The PS3 was outsold by the fricking Gameboy Advance. Come on it's no selling that. We arent talking about Sony we are talking about the PS3.

What if I said the Xbox 360 numbers aren't astromomical but from all reports Vista is doing great! Come on. The issue is the PS3.

[thelastword]

The PS3 was outsold by the fricking Gameboy Advance. Come on it's no selling that. We arent talking about Sony we are talking about the PS3.

What if I said the Xbox 360 numbers aren't astromomical but from all reports Vista is doing great! Come on. The issue is the PS3.Ok! we're talking consoles, but yet still you brought in the GBA? Anyway, the PS3 is still at the transition point from the PS2 and the last time I checked a PS3 was $600 whilst the GBA is $...Ok! forget about that....I mean the XBOX 360 is $399/299, the difference this month between them is only 69k. Isn't the 360 the platform with all the must have games and all the superior multiplats right now? So why does it appear to be stalling? Could it be that the hardcore of the hardcore have bought their sixth one already?

[DrunkenThumbmaster]

Regardless of the difference the fact remains it's still being outsold.

As far as the GBA thing goes it just goes to show that consumer would for whatever reason pick up a brand new dead ass GBA when the DS is in the market instead of getting a PS3

[Dancer O_o]

Regardless of the difference the fact remains it's still being outsold.

As far as the GBA thing goes it just goes to show that consumer would for whatever reason pick up a brand new dead ass GBA when the DS is in the market instead of getting a PS3

I think the excuse for that is that there simply isn't any PS3s on shelves...they've sold out and Sony will give a 1000 for the one you can find on a shelf, like 5 or so I saw yesterday at Target or the 3 at Bestbuy the day before that with literally dust on them. That should put 8 Gs in my pocket Sony. They gotta come up off that nasty price, sticker shock has them cornered. And no game on Earth will make Mom and Pop cough it out for junior. But junior seems real happy with Wii and so does parents wallet.

I have a valid concern that five years from now I will still not have spent more money on PS3 software than the 600 hardware I bought that currently is only playing some Madden07 which is good fun and almost next gen looking and Kingdom Hearts and Armored Cores various PS2 versions. Example:I just started playing FEAR I got yesterday on the 360 becaues it is obviously the better version to have, this game has got some humorous AI, almost convincingly real at times (playing on hard). The richochets and sparks are top-notch and bullet time with supreme ragdoll physics is bliss and pretty hysterical to look at. This game has next gen written all over it and I'm happy for that, but this is an old PC game already, 2005 as I recon. PCs still reign supreme in the tech timeline curve it seems. Getting to the point, FEAR was a game I was gonna get on the PS3 (and waited patiently) so as to have another nice shooter to play like RFOM has been to me, but reviews clearly dicate that only an idiot would buy that version if you have a 360 or fancy computer already laying around as they are better versions of the game, ugggh! Tell me it isn't going to be this way always.

[ThaMaskedGamer]

I wonder who is more sorry here? Supposedly 360 is a better console with better games and it outsold ps3 who has NO games by 60-70k? You xbots are dancing and singing already? Are you kidding me?

Yea Sony is so sorry. Sony is dead last. Wait, how many did PS2 sell? Oh PS2 doesnt' count right? That's so last gen. Let's just ignore the 300k Sony just sold. Man, how can Sony ever win?


Very happy to see the PS2 doing so well. They would love nothing better than for Sony to stick around and represent the 'retro' gamer. Trust me MS and Nintendo are very happy PS2 is selling well. The only company who is not is probably Sony.

Even if NO clear winner ever emerges this generation, Nintendo and MS win. You think they'd rather have Sony untoppable at the #1 position like last gen or the market fractured like it is now?

[Gamer From '78]

I think the excuse for that is that there simply isn't any PS3s on shelves...they've sold out and Sony will give a 1000 for the one you can find on a shelf, like 5 or so I saw yesterday at Target or the 3 at Bestbuy the day before that with literally dust on them. That should put 8 Gs in my pocket Sony. They gotta come up off that nasty price, sticker shock has them cornered. And no game on Earth will make Mom and Pop cough it out for junior. But junior seems real happy with Wii and so does parents wallet.

I have a valid concern that five years from now I will still not have spent more money on PS3 software than the 600 hardware I bought that currently is only playing some Madden07 which is good fun and almost next gen looking and Kingdom Hearts and Armored Cores various PS2 versions. Example:I just started playing FEAR I got yesterday on the 360 becaues it is obviously the better version to have, this game has got some humorous AI, almost convincingly real at times (playing on hard). The richochets and sparks are top-notch and bullet time with supreme ragdoll physics is bliss and pretty hysterical to look at. This game has next gen written all over it and I'm happy for that, but this is an old PC game already, 2005 as I recon. PCs still reign supreme in the tech timeline curve it seems. Getting to the point, FEAR was a game I was gonna get on the PS3 (and waited patiently) so as to have another nice shooter to play like RFOM has been to me, but reviews clearly dicate that only an idiot would buy that version if you have a 360 or fancy computer already laying around as they are better versions of the game, ugggh! Tell me it isn't going to be this way always.

I'm glad that informed consumers such as yourself and Ocelot are passing on inferior PS3 software in favor of superior Xbox 360 software.

The problem with the PS3 is not only that is is hard as hell to develop and/or port games for, the exclusives suck for the most part.

[PapaSmurf]

I'm glad that informed consumers such as yourself and Ocelot are passing on inferior PS3 software in favor of superior Xbox 360 software.

The problem with the PS3 is not only that is is hard as hell to develop and/or port games for, the exclusives suck for the most part.

Now all we need is for more informed customers like the lot of you (since us PC gamers have been telling you for years, you are informed) to buy the most superior product. PC version of Fear > than all.

[T.Tashi]

The PS1 was in production for 10 years and somehow, someway, the PS2 did just fine.

[Zilla Man]

The PS3 was outsold by the fricking Gameboy Advance. Come on it's no selling that. We arent talking about Sony we are talking about the PS3.

Um, one cost $600 and hasn't even been out for a year; the other costs $100 and has been out almost a decade.

If you're going to compare the GBA to anything it should be the PS2.

[slade]

Considering that the PS2 hardware is most likely sold at a profit and that there were four Sony first party games in the top ten, I doubt they are overly concerned at the moment. From current indication and PS2's sales, it doesn't look like the userbase is going anywhere at the moment. The 360's momentum has slowed down considerably in N. America and it is almost a non factor in Europe and Japan. The Wii is the biggest threat right now but unless they speed up their release schedule, there's even less on the system right now and in the future then the PS3.

If Sony can get even half of the PS2 userbase to stay put and then mover over to the PS3, this little fight is as good as won. Seeing as how they captured most of the PS2 userbase around the 150 - 200 dollar price point, that transition may not happen for a long long time. It is in their best interests to keep the PS2 right where it is, kicking every other console's a$$.

The Wii is the biggest detriment I see to this plan. Nintendo came in at just the right price and gained some huge momentum. There might not be any stopping them unless the shipment shortages and lack of newer titles manages to piss enough people off.

[Mochan]

What's pissing me about the Wii right now is the price, but that only applies to me here in the RP. It costs 23,000php which is nuts (about $480US). This is not Nintendo's fault other than them not producing enough consoles to ship to third world "non factor" countrys.

[folken001]

I always suspect that Nintendo is holding back on production to a degree. You cant really have a scenario where something is cheap to make and not making enough. Now analysts are saying Wii shortage will last until 2009 possibly 2010. I wonder....

[folken001]

Considering that the PS2 hardware is most likely sold at a profit and that there were four Sony first party games in the top ten, I doubt they are overly concerned at the moment. From current indication and PS2's sales, it doesn't look like the userbase is going anywhere at the moment. The 360's momentum has slowed down considerably in N. America and it is almost a non factor in Europe and Japan. The Wii is the biggest threat right now but unless they speed up their release schedule, there's even less on the system right now and in the future then the PS3.

If Sony can get even half of the PS2 userbase to stay put and then mover over to the PS3, this little fight is as good as won. Seeing as how they captured most of the PS2 userbase around the 150 - 200 dollar price point, that transition may not happen for a long long time. It is in their best interests to keep the PS2 right where it is, kicking every other console's a$$.

The Wii is the biggest detriment I see to this plan. Nintendo came in at just the right price and gained some huge momentum. There might not be any stopping them unless the shipment shortages and lack of newer titles manages to piss enough people off.

I guess Sony is being really careful about this whole PS2 and PS3 thing. They want to gain max profit from both without damaging each other's sale. Perhaps that's why Sony said that PS3 is supposed to last 10 years. PS3 is released ahead of schedule and Sony doesn't intend for it to take over the mainstream until PS2's momentum becomes relatively weak. And, that's like, another 1 year or so?

[Glockstar]

The PS1 was in production for 10 years and somehow, someway, the PS2 did just fine.

Yeah but that doesn't mean that it sold awesomely all ten years. Or that it continued to outsell the PS2 in those years that they were both out at the same time.

[thelastword]

I think it's all about balance. If you have a highly demanded profitable beast like the PS2 is, surely, you won't sever the head of such a huge profiteer. The PS2 is doing extremely good for Sony, whilst at the sametime offseting some of the PS3 incurred costs.

The PS3 on the other hand is already at the 65nm fab with the EE+GS removed. Blue violet diode production is sky high with as many as 5 million per month shooting through at certain plants, and the reduction in production has already plumetteded significantly, yes, with yet another major reduction to come in June. I'm talking about 900yen per diode or around 7.59USD in June. In essence, If Sony wants to and that might be part of their plan, they could offer a price cut this year to go along with the influx of all their major titles later for the holidays.

[Dancer O_o]

PS3 is released ahead of schedule and Sony doesn't intend for it to take over the mainstream until PS2's momentum becomes relatively weak. And, that's like, another 1 year or so?

People have been quick to blame MS for forcing Sony to bring PS3 to bare, I think Sony layed the PS3 on us at a good time, maybe earlier than planned buy Sony seems to be taking it in stride. I know Sony shareholders have to be happy as Sony is financially pretty well off and making money overall. It's MS that has created and bottomless well to throw their own money into with no return so far except a pat on the back saying "Atta boy!", "Keep it up champ, we can win!", but in the background they have to be saying "Holy Sh!t, we've thrown enough money out the window to buy Germany and we're still loosing?!" Nintendo's probably saying, "Look at those two morons"...(snickering)

I went to get an old PSX game the other day and discovered that most places don't actually sell those games anymore :cryin:

Williams Classics and G-Police 2 is all I wanted

[DrunkenThumbmaster]

I.

The PS3 on the other hand is already at the 65nm fab with the EE+GS removed. Blue violet diode production is sky high with as many as 5 million per month shooting through at certain plants, and the reduction in production has already plumetteded significantly, yes, with yet another major reduction to come in June. I'm talking about 900yen per diode or around 7.59USD in June. In essence, If Sony wants to and that might be part of their plan, they could offer a price cut this year to go along with the influx of all their major titles later for the holidays.


Can anybody read this garbage and not think this guy is a Sony plant. Seriously I think it's time to investigate this guy mods seriously.

[Dancer O_o]

Can anybody read this garbage and not think this guy is a Sony plant. Seriously I think it's time to investigate this guy mods seriously.

And what should they do if it were true? He hasn't done anything wrong except kiss Sony's entire ass, and spew drival like the rest of us...personally, I find him amusing as hell and he has the courage to answer every post directed his way regardless of worth or merit. I gotta give credit for that.

[DrunkenThumbmaster]

And what should they do if it were true? He hasn't done anything wrong except kiss Sony's entire ass, and spew drival like the rest of us...personally, I find him amusing as hell and he has the courage to answer every post directed his way regardless of worth or merit. I gotta give credit for that.


I don't want him banned or anything. I want too know if the guy is a plant. I actually enjoy him coming here but if he's a corporate tool it personally kills the spirit of the debate. I like debating the merits of consoles with gamers first. If he's not then he's just an advertiser.

But I'm probably wrong about him maybe........I don't know.

[Dancer O_o]

I don't want him banned or anything. I want too know if the guy is a plant. I actually enjoy him coming here but if he's a corporate tool it personally kills the spirit of the debate. I like debating the merits of consoles with gamers first. If he's not then he's just an advertiser.

But I'm probably wrong about him maybe........I don't know.

It would be interesting if he was a plant, this site simply has too little traffic for Sony to bother. You ever go to a forum where they have like 27,000 posts under just one topic thread?...it's a chore to search for any intelligence in a lot of those forums.

[DrunkenThumbmaster]

I know what you mean. I read in a few forums but this is the only one I really bother to post in. I've been IGN insider for about 4 years and have under 200 post there. Been going to Teamxbox since it first went online and have under 100 post there.

[slade]

Can anybody read this garbage and not think this guy is a Sony plant. Seriously I think it's time to investigate this guy mods seriously.

And you're basically a MS shill, so both of you are on even footing....... well, nix that, he probably never robbed a mom and pop store to get his gaming fix.

[folken001]

People have been quick to blame MS for forcing Sony to bring PS3 to bare, I think Sony layed the PS3 on us at a good time, maybe earlier than planned buy Sony seems to be taking it in stride. I know Sony shareholders have to be happy as Sony is financially pretty well off and making money overall. It's MS that has created and bottomless well to throw their own money into with no return so far except a pat on the back saying "Atta boy!", "Keep it up champ, we can win!", but in the background they have to be saying "Holy Sh!t, we've thrown enough money out the window to buy Germany and we're still loosing?!" Nintendo's probably saying, "Look at those two morons"...(snickering)

I went to get an old PSX game the other day and discovered that most places don't actually sell those games anymore :cryin:

Williams Classics and G-Police 2 is all I wanted

That's not entirely true. M$ did lose 5 billion dollars but the bottomline is they got the job done. They've gained significant market share from Sony. So, perhaps, they didn't have to throw money out meaninglessly to get people's attention in the next round. So when xbox 720 or w/e sh1tless name M$ comes up with in the next gen, M$ might be able to make money off the loyalty they build with Halo fans alone.

[folken001]

And you're basically a MS shill, so both of you are on even footing....... well, nix that, he probably never robbed a mom and pop store to get his gaming fix.
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[DrunkenThumbmaster]

And you're basically a MS shill, so both of you are on even footing....... well, nix that, he probably never robbed a mom and pop store to get his gaming fix.


I'm a MS shill? Whatever dude?

[PapaSmurf]

I went to get an old PSX game the other day and discovered that most places don't actually sell those games anymore :cryin:

Williams Classics and G-Police 2 is all I wanted

Hell yea. I went to an EB Game not too long ago looking for some PS1 games only to find they don't sell them anymore. Wants the point of the PS3 being compatible to the PS1 when major store won't sell the games anymore. Now I have to order games and stuff online...

[folken001]

Hell yea. I went to an EB Game not too long ago looking for some PS1 games only to find they don't sell them anymore. Wants the point of the PS3 being compatible to the PS1 when major store won't sell the games anymore. Now I have to order games and stuff online...

I also find it annoying how they won't buy PS1 games either. I have like 15 games I want to get rid of but Ebgames wouldnt' buy any of them.