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ThaMaskedGamer
03-30-2007, 11:36 AM
In an interview about GOW Mark Rein had some glowing comments about the PS3 and its capability. Despite his regard for the system, don't look for any PS3 exclusives though, it is just not profitable according to him. Here is the link to part one of his interview:

<a href="http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=23676">Shifting GEARS</a>

Here is the interesting part of the article:

<b>So, if Rein's so confident about the PS3, why not produce a console-exclusive title? After all, Epic has enjoyed huge success with Gears of War - it became the fastest-selling Xbox 360 game following its release last November, with more than 2 million copies sold in under a month.

"The Xbox 360 thing was very much a function of Microsoft coming to us back before Gears really was Gears - it was a prototype of a game we wanted to do in Unreal Engine 2. They came and said, 'Look, we want this to be one of the early, standout games on our new system.' At the time, we didn't actually know the specs of the new system, so it was a bit of a gamble," Rein reveals.

"It was never pitched 'You'll be our Halo' or anything like that, but we thought, if we could be like a Halo to them, that level of importance - that more than pays for the fact that it's on one platform. So that was kind of the dream in the beginning. Then 360 came along and it was a really good system, so that was clearly an amazing opportunity for us."

According to Rein, Epic won't be making a platform exclusive for PS3 - but that's to do with timing rather than the console's specs. <i>"I think that bird has flown the coop already on PlayStation 3 - they're not making launch titles any more, and we couldn't just start up a game tomorrow as an exclusive because it takes a few years.</i>

"We are doing games for PS3 - Unreal Tournament - but I think the opportunity to do an exclusive has passed.<i> I don't see Sony offering us a really great deal today to make that ass-kicking PlayStation 3 game, because by the time we finished, there would already be hundreds of great games on the platform.</i> Gran Turismo, Killzone - they'll be on the sequels to those games by the time our game would come out, so it's just a timing thing.

"For the next generation? Anything could happen... But that's five, six, seven, eight, nine years away, nobody even knows that yet." </b>

Its kinda odd. He said "We are doing games for PS3 - Unreal Tournament..." That's not games that is a game! Then he kinda praises MS while taking a dig at Sony. He says MS came to them and asked them to get something started, which was the genesis of GOW. Then he says they didn't know the capabilities of the system, yet we all see the end result and how relatively fast they were able to make that game. Yet he says it would take "years" to make an exclusive kick-azz game on PS3. Kinda odd. Maybe i'm reading more into it. It seems to me he is kinda taking two digs at Sony, #1 they are too cheap #2 it takes too long to make an exclusive game on PS3.

His excuse that the game would have to compete with other good games is poppycock. If that was the case, nobody would be releasing exclusive games after launch year on any system. But we are seeing plenty of exclusive games. Plus if a game is a killer game then it will sell well no matter how much competition there is.

Anyway, maybe i'm doing too much reading in-between the lines. One thing is for certain though, if you want your console to be different, you gotta take the bull by the horns and guide it in that direction. I'm playing GOW now on insane, and boy am I happy MS was motivated to entice them to make this game. I look forward to the sequel. I'm sure MS recouped whatever extra compensation they paid for this game, in full! Meanwhile Sony, you can't be passive and you gotta take risks beyond the hardware. It is no longer a 'privilege' to make a game on a Playstation platform, in fact it seems more and more like a punishment or a chore.

Dancer O_o
03-30-2007, 12:18 PM
I was trying from time to time to beat GOW on insane myself...it takes an enormous amount of patence that I just don't have anymore.

PS3 not getting any exclusives except for their own inhouse made games is quite sad and will frustrate Sony loving chumps to no end. Everyone knows that exclusivity is the way to making yourself different and often better than everyone else, it's too bad Sony so dropped the freaking ball on this so many times. I'm sure that within months PS3 lovers will find a way to make it clear that this doesn't matter anymore....but it does,and always will. I am bummed that there is literally nothing worth a poo on the PS3 to buy lately...or since day one of launch, Virtual Fighter? not worth 60 bones to me because I get bored in 10 minutes with fighters. Motorstorm? weak single player is not worth 60 bones either since I also don't care about the online part. Warhawk? Freaking screwed that one into the ground already didn't they?...no single player, thanks a bunch I hate you too morons.

Part of the problem is that Sony is just now getting around to copying Xbox live and getting ready to make the PS3 the online gaming machine of the future!...uh, huh....Sorry Sony you missed that boat years ago and online gaming is tiresome to a lot of people. Especially those like me who want to just go home after a long days work and relax with a game instead of dealing with ego, attitude and assinine behavior online like I deal with all day at work. Sony is so late with everything that it is embarassing to the point of go hide somewhere and wish it all away.

DrunkenThumbmaster
03-30-2007, 12:34 PM
I. Warhawk? Freaking screwed that one into the ground already didn't they?...no single player, thanks a bunch I hate you too morons.



Warhawk really isn't Warhawk but man it looks sweet as hell. If you like online shooter. The problem with it is that so many other large scale shooters come out this year I mean from UT3 to Quake Wars to Front lines to Battlefield Bad Company not to mention Halo3. Will it find a community? Well it's 3rd person on foot and it's on PS3 (they play anything online :thumbsup: )

They would have been better off calling it something else besides Warhawk. The Warhawk brand can't be that strong it hasn't been a WH game in what 10 12 years.

Ocelot
03-30-2007, 12:40 PM
Fack, I'm a PS3 guy and would over look the PS3 if all their games were coming to 360, I'd end up forking the money only to Microsoft and have the best of both worlds on one system.

I'll admit that it's quite frustrating but what really burns my ass are the replies from Sony regarding their fans reactions to big losses like DMC and the soon to be Final Fantasy. "It's not like the fans are loosing the game it's just available on more than one Platform" OR "We don't pay anyone for exclusives we just want those games available on our PS3 and that's all that matters!".

I dunno, maybe I'm wrong but exclusives are what define that particular system and make it a must have for fans and potential fans. I've seen a few Xbots here and other various forums enjoying PS2 games simply because they were good games that must not be missed but if all those titles ported to Xbox there would be no need to switch over.

Gadfly2317
03-30-2007, 08:26 PM
I've seen a few Xbots here and other various forums enjoying PS2 games simply because they were good games that must not be missed but if all those titles ported to Xbox there would be no need to switch over.

Extremely well stated point.

Especially those like me who want to just go home after a long days work and relax with a game instead of dealing with ego, attitude and assinine behavior online like I deal with all day at work. . . God I hate my job sometimes, mostly just that 3/4 of the asshats I work with are like chimps at the zoo, glass caged in the monkey house, flinging poo or masturbating furiously in the corner.

Mochan
03-30-2007, 09:30 PM
[qutoe=TMG]Then he says they didn't know the capabilities of the system, yet we all see the end result and how relatively fast they were able to make that game. Yet he says it would take "years" to make an exclusive kick-azz game on PS3. Kinda odd. Maybe i'm reading more into it. [/quote]

Indeed, you are. If you were paying attention, you'd have realized that they were making Gears WAY BEFORE the XBox 360 was announced, and way before MS came to them. i.e. "YEARS" before it was released after the 1st year of the Xbox. Comprende?

The only dig he made at Sony was that Sony didn't pay them to make an exclusive, unlike MS who did.
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"I don't see Sony offering us a really great deal today to make that ass-kicking PlayStation 3 game,
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His excuse that the game would have to compete with other good games is poppycock

Indeed... the real reason is that Sony isn't paying them to do it. Don't read anymore to it than that.



They would have been better off calling it something else besides Warhawk. The Warhawk brand can't be that strong it hasn't been a WH game in what 10 12 years.


Warhawk? Never heard of it.

God I hate my job sometimes, mostly just that 3/4 of the asshats I work with are like chimps at the zoo, glass caged in the monkey house, flinging poo or masturbating furiously in the corner.

I'm pretty sure your jobs are cakewalks compared to mine in terms of the people you have to deal with... Not trying to belittle but when you work in call centers I think this is a given.