Yawn Games!

[Ocelot]

There comes a time when see things that really stand out as I stated in an earlier thread. It seems as I get older I am less likely to just buy a game that just looks cool or just "Gotta have it" or if it's a bargain bin deal. Why is this? Well time is important to me. I don't want to waste time with subpar when I can play the best.

There are some games coming out of the woodwork that just plain don't cut it. So I made a list of what games I wouldn't ever consider buy or even renting for that matter.



(These games I have selected are simply my opinion) (:rolleyes: = Pathetic award)

:rolleyes: Untold Legends Dark Kingdom: Do we really need a $70 PSP port of a crappy game?

Cooking Mama: Um, No

:rolleyes: Genji 2: I really like this genre but this title was insanely boring.

Coded Arms: PS3 should scrap their version of Assault cus damn!

:rolleyes: Cash Guns Chaos: Um.....Blast Factor was fine, do we need a crappy smash tv rip off?

:rolleyes: Full Auto2: It's like those retarded "Agent Under Fire" vehicle missions from beginning to end....Please end the pain.

Def Jam Icon: Do we really need another fighting game?

EA James Bond games: ugh, please just stop....quit now!
truly are.

Ninty Nine nights: I'd rather play Genji 2.....sort of.

Smackdown (Wrassslin): Do we really need another one of these?

[Dancer O_o]

Every one of those games you mentioned are indeed subpar.

Time for me too has become more important than money or love or anything else, I get very pissed when someone or something wastes my time. For me the biggest time waster I can think of is online gaming, the attitudes, egos, and hacking have ruined it for me and I used to play nothing but online games 4 hours or more a night for years on end. I only play a little Counter Strike 1.6 a few hours a week to keep in stroke and get my AWP headshot fix...

I also make it a rule to avoid games that are a movie first.

[Mochan]

Yeah I'm out on Online myself. There's just no time. I haven't gotten the new Battlefield because of this.

Cooking Mama - may this rot in hell. Get me a REAL game please.

Def Jam - damn there are too many good fighting games to consider turd like this. Hope there are no more Wu Tang crap either.

[Cuddly Knife]

Def Jam might've been alright if they had improved on the style that FfNY had, instead of creating a new style of fighting that involves air-scratching to bust power hits. I did like the idea of a fighting game based on rythm, but it just wasn;t executed well enough here. Too many limitations.

[NEO-360]

Killzone 2-The first one wasnt no where near being a Halo killer. Even with a great looking demo will Killzone 2 truly look like that throughout the game? Highly unlikely. This game 9 times out of 10 will be as forgettable as the original was once Halo 3 arrives for the 360.The original never looked anything above taking a nap status. I dont see this one being much different.

Ninja Gaiden Sigma-Bad enough we had the Star Wars:Special Edition series many years ago. Now we have a four year old Xbox port coming to the almighty Potentialstation 3 with a fresh coat of paint on it. Just because you give a car a new paint job does that make it a brand new car? Nope. Just makes it look better. Everything else remains the same. If you've already played this before on the Xbox why go back? Boring.

For now those are two games that truly gets the nod as potential yawn games.:p

[slade]

Not necessarily Yawn games but here's a bunch from this gen that I bought and just did not have any urge to finish.

Dead Rising: I put this down a while back and never picked it up again albeit the story was good and the gameplay was okay. The borking of the guns was a much bigger issue for me then the save points.

Lost Planet: Put this down after three or four missions. It's not a bad game but again, meh.

Def Jam Icon: Played the demo. Give the franchise back to Aki.

Ninety Nine Nights: It's not completely bad but it's not completely good either. The super special move doesn't work on bosses, it's got spotty collision detection and your allies are only good for getting a hit in here and there.

Saint's Row: Why the hell do I have to raise my rep before I can do other missions. That's more of a chore then anything else.

Condemned: It started to become a chore around the time when you're chasing the guy. Stopped midway and have no intention of picking it up again.

[Mochan]

Ninja Gaiden Sigma-Bad enough we had the Star Wars:Special Edition series many years ago. Now we have a four year old Xbox port coming to the almighty Potentialstation 3 with a fresh coat of paint on it. Just because you give a car a new paint job does that make it a brand new car? Nope. Just makes it look better. Everything else remains the same. If you've already played this before on the Xbox why go back? Boring.

Typical idiotic Neo crap, yes it is basically teh same car but it's not exactly the exact same game, they've made quite a bit of changes including adding a new playable character and a new weapon style.

While I agree that this isn't exactly a game you would use to showcase your spanking new $600 console, to call this a "yawner" is totally uncalled for and obviously just another Neo-hating-on-the-PS3 thing, even I wouldn't call Gears of War a yawner, no matter how much I didn't enjoy playing it.



Killzone 2-The first one wasnt no where near being a Halo killer. Even with a great looking demo will Killzone 2 truly look like that throughout the game? Highly unlikely.

We hardly know anything about the game and we already have you calling it a yawner, well considering your mental acuity and passion for the PS3, I'm not surprised.



As for Slade, well I have no comment on Lost Planet or Dead Rising (games I thought Slade would have loved) yet as I haven't played them at all, but I have to completely agree with Condemned, now that is a boring game. FEAR was slightly better, but not terribly so.

On the Saint's Row comment, though, if you are into RPGs then meeting requisites before being able to do certain missions is just par for the course. I wouldn't begrudge a game for this kind of mission design at all unless I were just pointlessly nitpicking and missing the point of a game altogether. It may be a valid criticism and I honestly know nothing about how St's. Row plays to really determine whether it is indeed bad in this game's case, but normally a complaint like that is unfounded.

[Cuddly Knife]

Everyone hates on Dead Rising but me. I found the game to be a refreshing take on the action genre. There are even RPG leveling-up elements to the game. I stil stand by my statement that this game is a modern re-imagining of the Symphony of the Night. I loved every minute of it, up until 7day survival mode.

Lost Planet single player was good all the way through, but multi-player was a bore-fest. The maps were too huge for only 16 players.

Oh, and Ninja Gaiden Sigma will be one of, if not the first game I get when I get a PS3. And not because of Rachel missions, but because of the graphics. I'm just that stupid, NEO.

[Wan-Fu]

I'm to the point where if a game doesn't spark my emotions (like Silent Hill, Kotor, etc) or doesn't have tactical gameplay brilliance which absolutely requires constant brain processing (like Halo on the harder difficulty levels), I just won't bite. I really don't view playing videogames as just "fun" anymore, or something you can just pick up and play, I want them to be a taxing emotional or even physiological experience that to a limited extent, can stimulate adrenalin as much as a top-tier movie. Hence, I buy fewer and fewer games. Here are the some of the ones that cut it, and probably will not. My choices are platform agnostic.

Kane and Lynch
Will be a solid looking HEAT clone, and the psychopath is a nice touch. A lot of stylized action and gratuitous violence ahoy, but will rank low on the stimulate gray matter meter. I mean, I won't really CARE about Kane or Lynch. Rental or platinum hit at best, depending on reviews.

DMC 4, NG2
Action games take too much time to memorize a zillion different combos, not to mention getting the execution down. I cannot expend precious time learning the combos, its just too consuming. I will have to pass. Plus, these games make me want to throw my controller, and I will certainly melt down and do just that. For fans of this genre, these two look to be classics.

Mass Effect
Its not just the graphics or the space setting that will make this one a winner, its the advance in emotions conveyed by the participants, and the advanced dialog branches and ultimate consequences of your choices that make this very scintillating. I am, however NOT excited that they FPS'd this one up. I would have preferred to make using other weapons just as useful. Regardless, Bioware is Godly. First day purchase.

Bioshock
This, more than any other new I.P., has me absolutely salivating at the mouth. No multiplayer! Great. They focused on the single player. Drips with atmosphere, horror, and suspense. Looks to be extraordinarily disturbing, on many different levels (Big Daddy and Little girl aesthetic might be a little controversial) and has some rpg elements which will add to the same old tired shooting mechanic, and the plasmids look very, very intriguing.
Day 1 purchase no matter what the reviewers say. If its absolute crap, at least they tried, and tried damn hard. There is nothing wrong with playing failed brillaince.

MGS 4
This is going to be very hard to call. To me, MGS has always been two experiences. The cutseces and codecs versus the actual gameplay. The convoluted MGS world is a fantastic acheivement of video game lore, but after splinter cell came out, the actual gameplay is paleolithic in comparison. I liked looking at and hearing Big Boss, Raiden, Ocelot, etc. more than I liked actually fighting them. If kojima can infuse the magic of the world, with more compelling gameplay and a camera system like MGS subsistence, this will be a world beater. I guess we will see.

Alan Wake, SH5, Condemned 2, Halo 3, Kotor 3
All day one purchases, no reason to explain

GTA 4
I was going to make a thread about this, but I am just DISGUSTED with the New York City location. SO much so that I dont think I will pick this fame up right off the bat, if at all. We have already played NY city in GTA 3, or something very similar. GTA had the chance to make a game for the ages, and make a statement that would rock the video game world to its foundation, but they went the safe route. We could have seen something incredible and avant-garde ripe with political and social controversy, like GTA Baghdad, or GTA Berlin, set at the height of the cold war era. I have no doubt that Rockstar will fix the aiming and driving problems that ruined some of the GTA experience, but they just blew their chance to really shake up the videogame world. MEH, MEH, MEH.

Drake's Fortune
Dude raider jokes aside, I struggle to see what will be special about a gap model running wild in a jungle. This looks like it will be a superb action game, but ultimately shallow. Why should we care about this dude and his adventure? What makes this special? If it was more stylized like romancing the stone, or Indiana Jones, or even The golden child, I could see it, but right now, the game hasn't shown me anything but nice graphics. This looks to be a rental unless there is something truly compelling about the story that would pique my interest. Is he trying to save his lover? Save the "world"? Stop a deadly disease? WHAT???

Killzone 2
I played the first KZ, and even if the game comes close to the trailer, the story is not immersive. I forgot what the story was even about, and I can't remember most of the characters, which is the reason why I am not looking forward to this game. I didn't connect with the characters, or the story, or the gameplay in the first one, so why would I in the second one? At best, this will be the best looking game ever created, but the gameplay and story will be quite forgettable. If it isn't hands down MUCH better looking than Gears, why bother in the first place.

Killer Instinct 3
At one point in time, I was a street fighter and samurai showdown whore. I even started to beat some of the Japanese and Asian players, who pretty much whupped everybody when they came to the arcades. Since those days, fighters have taken a long slide towards irrelevance, vf5 and Tekken will both bomb. However, I predict this game will bring fighters back. The game will be online, and even more than that, it will bring unadulterated WHUP ASS back to the genre. DOA, vf5, and tekken are all very tame, uninspiring, and technical to me. Just too realistic. Frame counting? I can't wait for 50 hit combos, that crazy freakin announcer, and the bad-ass fatalities. I know I said that memorizing combos takes too much time, but with one-on-one fighters, its is not so bad. With HD sound and Graphics, orchid, glacius, and sabretooth are going to win over a new generation.

Splinter Cell 5
The splinter cell series suffers where MGS is strong. The stories. So Boring, so predictable, so utterly by the numbers. I want Sam to be seditious, treasonous, bring down a western government, or a multi-national corporation that still lives off the crime of colonialism. Free a downtrodden nation. Do something besides shank terrorists. The gameplay has always been divine, if a little complex. This will be 360 exclusive, so i expect more pseudo-clancy pandering. If so, no buy, no matter how good looking the game is.

Lair
Besides (hopefully) state of the art visuals, and (hopefully) epic battles we know little about this mythical world, actually, we know nothing. Is this game just going to be eragon meets Lord of the Rings? Why should the player care about the dragons or the rider, or the bad guys they will emulsify? I am guessing this will be a cinematic experience of grandiose scale, but besides that, there is nothing pointing to a great story, or hook. Will some dragons refuse to be controlled, are some of the dragons old, and fly different, or young and out of control? Will female riders elicit more empathy from the dragons, or are they like horses from the wild west that you just spur with your boots, and off you go? Are there consequences to the choices you make? Maybe we are freeing dragons from being used as war-tools. I would love to know some of these details, but what can you do??

There are many, many others that we really know nothing about, like LA Noire, 8 days, Wolfenstein 3, etc, and I really don't play many jrpg's, or platformers, so I can't really comment.

[DrunkenThumbmaster]

WTF you wrote all that Sh!t!

[Wan-Fu]

WTF you wrote all that Sh!t!

eh, I rarely have the time, and when I do, I am actually still consumed with oblivion. I don't even know if I will buy Oblivion 2 because this one has taken up way too much of my time. This saturday, I have some time, and I have been thinking about my future purchases a great deal.

[Rogue Bounty Hunter]

From what I've seen, I wouldn't consider Mass Effect to be FPS'd up. If it was, I would be PO'ed at Bioware.

As far as other weapons, I'm interested to get some more info on that. So far, I've only seen shooting and using "dark matter" as the main weapons, but I have a feeling there's some form of melee attacks in the game. Maybe. If not, I don't think it would bother me that much. They can always add more weaponry in Mass Effect 2.

[ilnadmy]

Small chance BioShock is going to be "failed brilliance". After all, they're the ones that created System Shock 2.

[Tappy_Tibbons]

Most of the newer ones are making me yawn...hence I do not have a next gen console at this time.

[Mochan]

Wanfu, Shivering Isles is out so be prepared to lose even more of your life....

BTW your list seems mixed, Yawn Games and Must Get Games.

Cuddly, I've noted before that I'm interested in Dead Rising, it just so happens that I don't have a 360 and my friend who does, doesn't have Dead Rising.

Tappy, the games you look forward to can be had on the 360 except for 2. Am I seeing a hint of giving in?

[DrunkenThumbmaster]

Not necessarily Yawn games but here's a bunch from this gen that I bought and just did not have any urge to finish.

Dead Rising: I put this down a while back and never picked it up again albeit the story was good and the gameplay was okay. The borking of the guns was a much bigger issue for me then the save points.

Lost Planet: Put this down after three or four missions. It's not a bad game but again, meh.

Def Jam Icon: Played the demo. Give the franchise back to Aki.

Ninety Nine Nights: It's not completely bad but it's not completely good either. The super special move doesn't work on bosses, it's got spotty collision detection and your allies are only good for getting a hit in here and there.

Saint's Row: Why the hell do I have to raise my rep before I can do other missions. That's more of a chore then anything else.

Condemned: It started to become a chore around the time when you're chasing the guy. Stopped midway and have no intention of picking it up again.

interesting all 360 games but you played through the PS3 stinker Genji :confused: to each his own.

[PapaSmurf]

interesting all 360 games but you played through the PS3 stinker Genji :confused: to each his own.

Yea it's called playing a game and forming your own opinion about it and not just judging it by it's reviews. Maybe you should try it some day, you might find some gems you may have not otherwised picked up.

[Gadfly2317]

Yea it's called playing a game and forming your own opinion about it and not just judging it by it's reviews. Maybe you should try it some day, you might find some gems you may have not otherwised picked up.

Is there a Genji playable download demo with Ps3 online?

I totally agree with you that scores are not the be-all end-all, even if they are a decent guide. I've enjoyed many mediocre to terrible scoring games, but with the price of games these days, its hard to take the risk. If there were demos, we might all discover more games that are flawed but which appeal to our personal tastes.

This is one area I really wish Nintendo would get on the ball. The Wii Channels are a great idea, but there really has to be a demo channel, and also a new micro-budget (microbrew) channel. Virtual console has turned out to be better than expected(they answered our prayers and Act Raiser is on the way), but there's so much more potential that needs to be tapped.

[Glockstar]

...I've enjoyed many mediocre to terrible scoring games, but with the price of games these days, its hard to take the risk. If there were demos, we might all discover more games that are flawed but which appeal to our personal tastes. ...

In my experience, I've discovered the exact opposite. More often than not they scare me away from a game.

Sometimes the demos just aren't that high of a quality. Certainly not of the same quality as the final game. The Halo and Psi-Ops demos are two such examples. They were terrible; absolutely no indicator of what the final game would be like. It's a good thing I didn't base my judgment on these demos!

I still love demos tho'.

[slade]

There's a playable demo of Genji on the PS store however, the game is not for everybody. If you've got a rod up your behind about camera angles, which is like 90 percent of the gaming population and you don't want to deal with the fix the developers give you, then this game is not for you.

And yes, I would take this game over the ones in my list.

[DrunkenThumbmaster]

The Halo and Psi-Ops demos are two such examples. They were terrible; absolutely no indicator of what the final game would be like. It's a good thing I didn't base my judgment on these demos!

I still love demos tho'.


What!? Man I loved the Psi ops demo the practice room and the half a level they gave you of the main game plus you had all your powers unlocked in it. I bought that game off the strength of that demo.

Speaking of Psi ops I was reading a preview of Stranglehold in a UK 360 mag. Stranglehold is by the same team that did Psi-ops and they confirmed there won't be a sequeal because the game sold poorly. That sucks! Especially since they through up a to be continued sign at the end of the game. At least the main story line finished. Maybe I should have bought it new intstead of used. Midway is smoking some good green I mean the suffering was o.k. but that got a sequeal and Area 51 is getting a sequeal as well did both those game out sell Psi-ops by that much?

Yea it's called playing a game and forming your own opinion about it and not just judging it by it's reviews. Maybe you should try it some day, you might find some gems you may have not otherwised picked up

Oh god shut it will you. I've played a bunch of games that weren't well reviewed. I was just remarking on slades "curious" taste in games. You need to talk to the lastword about that crap.

[Glockstar]

What!? Man I loved the Psi ops demo the practice room and the half a level they gave you of the main game plus you had all your powers unlocked in it. I bought that game off the strength of that demo.

I thought the camera was especially wonky and incredibly swingy. And I thought the framerate was terrible. These things were so bad that I thought even if they fix them they're still going to be bad.


Speaking of Psi ops I was reading a preview of Stranglehold in a UK 360 mag. Stranglehold is by the same team that did Psi-ops and they confirmed there won't be a sequeal because the game sold poorly. ...

Because people are $#@%ing idiots! Especially the people here. Who all they want to do is argue. And only buy exclusives for whatever system they're a fanboy of and shun multiplats. Alright, now I'm mad. I hate all of ya. :mad:


That sucks! Especially since they through up a to be continued sign at the end of the game. At least the main story line finished. Maybe I should have bought it new intstead of used. Midway is smoking some good green I mean the suffering was o.k. but that got a sequeal and Area 51 is getting a sequeal as well did both those game out sell Psi-ops by that much?

And you too, DT. You bought it used. That's just fracking great. See, this is why the used-game industry sucks.

[DrunkenThumbmaster]

Because people are $#@%ing idiots! Especially the people here. Who all they want to do is argue. And only buy exclusives for whatever system they're a fanboy of and shun multiplats. Alright, now I'm mad. I hate all of ya. :mad:

Word. I mean people on this board act like a multiplat isn't even worth discussing.




And you too, DT. You bought it used. That's just fracking great. See, this is why the used-game industry sucks.

:cryin: :cryin:

To be fair by the time I got around to getting the game the Gamestop only had used copies.

[ilnadmy]

To be fair by the time I got around to getting the game the Gamestop only had used copies.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/03/30

[Glockstar]

:cryin: :cryin:

To be fair by the time I got around to getting the game the Gamestop only had used copies.

Heh! Well... you're forgiven. Becuase you've pretty much made up for it by repeatedly spreading a good word on it.