My PS3 and Wii Gripes

[Ocelot]

PS3

The System: Much Like Anna Nichole Smith when she was a fatty. PS3 is big and heavy.... very pretty but big nonetheless. I remember all the complaints about the weight of Xbox, I never noticed Xbox being noticeably heavy. PS3 is "Noticeably" heavy.

Like I said in my impressions post. The Startup is really nothing to brag about. Simple and....well.... boring...zzzzz...zzzzzzzzz.... sorry I'm awake now. The 360 offers an amazing visual feast upon startup with what I like to call the "X-Sphere" rotating around displaying the logo in an impressive fashion. PS3 offers nothing of the sort.

The Gui is easy to navigate, but there are just too many features to wade through, making me feel lost. Children beware! My other gripe about the GUI is that it looks "Too Much" like the PSP's GUI. I would like something different. Again 360 offers a more attractive menu overall.

Another notable 360 mention is that when you're playing a game, you can bring up the "Blade" to navigate though some features and even shut the system off. PS3 just gives you a black screen offering you to only reset, turn off controller, or turn off system. Yawn.


The Controllers: I love Sixaxis...love it (Eat that 360) but you know what? No rumble. This is an inconvenience. Especially for games like Metal Gear.

My other complaint is the price: $60 (CDN) and to top it off? No USB cord to plug it into the system.... that’s separate. Mind you the price for those are cheap...it's the effing principle.:mad2:

The 360 controller feels right to me. Rugged, ergo perfection and doesn't feel cheap. PS3 offers Sixaxis and it quite honestly feels a little too light. I'm afraid to drop this thing.


The Games:


I can't speak enough good about Call of Duty 3. Part of me wishes I purchased that over R:FoM. 360 owners will really enjoy this game. My only gripe with this game is, unlike R:FoM, you can't fully customize your control scheme here. All you get are 4 different configs.

You cannot skip through the Cut scenes EVER. There are cut scenes for each level. But the real problem is when reach any checkpoint, save and turn you system off. When you play the game again you get to watch the cut scene for that level all over again.:mad2:

R:FoM is a really good game but what's with the short levels. I mean, here I am trudging down the streets in a kick ass Panzer.... then bam...the screen goes white and a cinematic pops into view.... grrrrrrrrr.

Much like COD3, when you turn you system back on to continue playing from any checkpoint. The Cut scene for that level likes to show itself...but at least you can skip though it this time.







Wii


This is a small system no doubt. But what a mess. You open the box to find all these different pieces. So you get to hook it up like normal plug the power cord in. Yes the Wii has a "Power Brick" good news is that it's not much bigger then G-Cube's. Then you plug in the Standard V-cables. (sh*t, this uses a different adapter then the Snes, N64 and GC. My GC S-Video cord is useless now what a pisser

Sorry 'bout that, anyway. So now you have the unit hooked up to the tube. Great...uh...wait.... what’s this.... a sensor bar? WHAT? Sixaxis doesn't need one...but ok. So now I have this little wire running up the back of my TV with a foot long black bar sitting on top. I soon realize that this sensor bar is only for pointing the curser and aiming. Everything else is gyroscopic. Whew:thumbsup:


The Wii is cheap right? Yes it is, but take a good look at the controllers.... there are 2 pieces.... now the kicker "Each Sold Separately" The Wiimote is around $45 and the Stick is around $25...$70?.... FACK! Plus you need batteries :mad2:


This ain't over yet: So you wanna play some Gamecube games? Go for it...remember how discrete Wii looks? Play a GC game and you will find out how clumsy this system looks. You have to lift the flaps on top of the system to access the controller ports and Memcard slots. This looks terrible and everything feels ass backwards too boot.

Now my biggest ***** all for the Wii is the fact that you "REQUIRE" the Classic controller to play all N64, Snes, NES and etc. So in essence, you need 3 controllers to play all games. This is costly.


Not a big deal but...the Wii doesn't even play CDs





Great systems overall but not without problems of their own.

[Glockstar]

Hey, there you are! And wow, you really did score a PS3! Congrats. (I think.)

Read thru all three of your posts... not bad, not bad. In fact, pretty damned good. Thanks. (You surprise me.)

[Cuddly Knife]

So what can you do with the PS3 HDD? music, videos, game saves, anything?

[shogun]

I recall reading in Gamespot's Wii review of Mario 64 that the standard Gamecube controller worked fine. Also, I was under the impression that the Wii controller could handle NES games by being turned sideways....Neither serves as an substitute for an SNES controller unless you dig microscopic D-pads, but depending on your taste in games, it might ease some of the sting.

Not that I endorse any controller that costs $70...

[Gadfly2317]

I know I asked this somewhere else, but forgot which thread. Anyway, is there a way to transfer your game saves from the GC to the Wii?

Also, does it work with the wavebird?

[Ocelot]

Hey, there you are! And wow, you really did score a PS3! Congrats. (I think.)

Read thru all three of your posts... not bad, not bad. In fact, pretty damned good. Thanks. (You surprise me.)


Just bein' honest. I gotta give credit where it's due. Now that all 3 are out I've had a chance to get a good idea of how they function and what they provide.

I won't lie, I'm happy with my recent purchases, but I can't ignore whats obviously better. M$ have been working hard, and it definetly shows. My respect for them has shot up quite a few notches. Good Job.:thumbsup:


So what can you do with the PS3 HDD? music, videos, game saves, anything?

Well, so far I've plugged in my mem stick duo and both copied movies and songs from the card to the HD. I've also played the movies and songs right from the card just as I would from the PSP.

The PSP will hook up both Wireless and wired (USB) as a mass storage device to PS3

The PS3 will also recognize other storage devices aside from PSP. My friend has an (imitation) Ipod and when I plugged it in (USB) I could access the memory and copy the content.

I have yet to try AVI (X-vid/Div-x) files to play but don't see a problem. Google/IGN/Gamespot vids will play just fine.

[Ocelot]

I know I asked this somewhere else, but forgot which thread. Anyway, is there a way to transfer your game saves from the GC to the Wii?

Also, does it work with the wavebird?


Hey Gaddy, yeah I answered the first question for ya yesterday.....but anyway

So far I haven't tried to transfer my GC game saves to the internal memory. I'll keep you posted.

The Wavebird will work just fine on the Wii.

[Cuddly Knife]

Wow, so you can copy music from an MP3 player. That awesome. I don't think the 360 can do that. Maybe with the latest update...

What do the save icons look like for the PS3 games? Wii games?

What kind of memory does the Wii have, anyways?

[Superior Beatslayer]

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The 360 controller feels right to me. Rugged, ergo perfection and doesn't feel cheap. PS3 offers Sixaxis and it quite honestly feels a little too light. I'm afraid to drop this thing.
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yeah man, i beat the **** outta my 360 controller. I live in rez so it's cramped as **** so its always gettin caught and tossed around, the outter rubber is even ripped and you can see the wires and the inside and it STILL works fine...i fixed er up with some electrical tape:thumbsup:

[Ocelot]

yeah man, i beat the **** outta my 360 controller. I live in rez so it's cramped as **** so its always gettin caught and tossed around, the outter rubber is even ripped and you can see the wires and the inside and it STILL works fine...i fixed er up with some electrical tape:thumbsup:

Hey, if it works:D

But that controller must be taking quite the beating. I've known them to be quite rugged.



Wow, so you can copy music from an MP3 player. That awesome. I don't think the 360 can do that. Maybe with the latest update...
What do the save icons look like for the PS3 games? Wii games?

What kind of memory does the Wii have, anyways?

Well I do remember hearing that 360 will now download specific TV shows via Live (ie: Robot Chicken) but as far as copying mp3s?.....Don't know man:confused:


The Save Icons on PS3 are very similar to the way they are presented on the PSP. Basically just a thumbnail or moving video applet. Sometimes the picture of the game will open up on the entire background screen with the text and menus in the foreground.

The Wii has an internal 512 mb flash memory module. Which supports saves demos and downloads.

[trebor]

The Wii is cheap right? Yes it is, but take a good look at the controllers.... there are 2 pieces.... now the kicker "Each Sold Separately" The Wiimote is around $45 and the Stick is around $25...$70?.... FACK! Plus you need batteries :mad2:

Are you from Canada? Cause you're off by $10, which isn't much better, but still. And the Wiimote does come with batteries, so...


This ain't over yet: So you wanna play some Gamecube games? Go for it...remember how discrete Wii looks? Play a GC game and you will find out how clumsy this system looks. You have to lift the flaps on top of the system to access the controller ports and Memcard slots. This looks terrible and everything feels ass backwards too boot.

I don't think it looks that bad...


Now my biggest ***** all for the Wii is the fact that you "REQUIRE" the Classic controller to play all N64, Snes, NES and etc. So in essence, you need 3 controllers to play all games. This is costly.

Well, I can't fathom why it's your biggest ***** about the Wii considering it very clearly shows that you can use the GC controllers for the Virtual console games. You know how they show images of the controllers for every game and one of said controllers is the GC controller? Yeah.

[Ocelot]

Are you from Canada? Cause you're off by $10, which isn't much better, but still. And the Wiimote does come with batteries, so....
yep, Southern Ontario....in the Greater Toronto Area to be exact. It comes with batteries but I know that I'm jumping on a new set of rechargables very soon



I don't think it looks that bad... .

Ok, ok....it doesn't look That bad but still I was a bit let down. Such a discrete little system only to be ruined by all these cords and cards jutting out from the topside.




Well, I can't fathom why it's your biggest ***** about the Wii considering it very clearly shows that you can use the GC controllers for the Virtual console games. You know how they show images of the controllers for every game and one of said controllers is the GC controller? Yeah.

The reason why it was because before I realized this was true...I felt like this was going to be another GBA/GC link issue. where you were required to use specific controllers for the games.......but now I'm better educated....My bad.:thumbsup:

[Mochan]

Well by these accounts, seems the 360 is the most polished of all 3 consoles, which is quite an achievement considering it came out first. This is not all too surprising though considering that MS is in the OS business.

As always though the real point of contention will be in the actual games, since that's what we're getting these systems for. Will the 360 manage to leave the PS3 and Wii behind with their software selection? It's too early to tell right now. We'll have to wait for the PS3 and Wii to shape up. I'll give them both a year. If they still can't compete properly by then, then who knows? Xbox might win this one just yet.

Would be nice though to see the PS3 win, invade the PC market, and overthrow MS and bump Apple off. Hahhaha!

[ilnadmy]

True, the 360 might be the most polished of all the systems, but as far as the games, I don't see 360 leading the pack. Its games, for the most part, are military sims, fighters, and sports games. While those are good games to play every now and then, it doesn't make for a well-rounded system. If Sony retains the same diversified game library as the PS2, I see the PS3 winning this round again.

[Gadfly2317]

Well, I can't fathom why it's your biggest ***** about the Wii considering it very clearly shows that you can use the GC controllers for the Virtual console games. You know how they show images of the controllers for every game and one of said controllers is the GC controller? Yeah.

And you know, even though GC controlers work for VC games, I find myself drawn to the white SNES-looking "classic" controller. And then I realize: I'm a controller whore. Way too many controller and controller-devices.

And what's really sad, the only part of the Wii I have. . . is the Wii-mote/nunchuck :rolleyes:

[trebor]

And you know, even though GC controlers work for VC games, I find myself drawn to the white SNES-looking "classic" controller. And then I realize: I'm a controller whore. Way too many controller and controller-devices.

And what's really sad, the only part of the Wii I have. . . is the Wii-mote/nunchuck :rolleyes:

Really? Because we need another Wii-mote nunchuck, since they sold out of the Wii peripherals when we bought ours. We were able to get another Wii-mote, but not another chuck.

In fact, I would say that the peripheral situation is the only thing that Nintendo botched for the Wii launch. They had a good amount of Wii units themselves, but not nearly enough peripherals to keep up with demand. Especially the hard to find component cables.

[Gadfly2317]

Really? Because we need another Wii-mote nunchuck, since they sold out of the Wii peripherals when we bought ours. We were able to get another Wii-mote, but not another chuck.

In fact, I would say that the peripheral situation is the only thing that Nintendo botched for the Wii launch. They had a good amount of Wii units themselves, but not nearly enough peripherals to keep up with demand. Especially the hard to find component cables.

There were lines around some stores again this morning for the Wii, which continues to be sold out here. A lot of stores were putting out there second shipment today. Managed to get one, but mostly on accident. I don't show up early, but the best buy employee told me that they were opening at 9, but they opened up at 10. His stupidity helped me get a Wii; I was one of the last to get a voucher, but I had to wait two hours in the cold which I hate.

Made me really glad I got the second controller already because like you say, there are none to be found.

[theWacoKid]

This holiday season was nintendo's to rule, but clearly, they've botched up somewhat. They said initiallly, a million at launch, then Reggie says a couple of days after launch, they hope to reach a million by early december. WTF? And what's the total lack of peripherals? This is just total incompetence on the part of nintendo. They advertise the crap out of the wii as a family system and then fail to provide wiimotes and nunchuks for those families. Unfrickin bellevable. And what is with these guys and their abhorence of supplying nintendo owners with component cables? Do these guys ever bother reading the message boards. Clearly not, since on numerous boards, the failure of nintendo to provide component cables in a timely manner is a real sore point. How hard can it be to make some effin cables?

I guess nintendo figured since they're making money on the console, they don't have to make money on accessories.

[ilnadmy]

And why are you so steamed when Nintendo or Sony has some teething problems with the release of a new console? It's not like Microsoft didn't have any with the 360. Give it a few months.

[Gadfly2317]

This holiday season was nintendo's to rule, but clearly, they've botched up somewhat. They said initiallly, a million at launch, then Reggie says a couple of days after launch, they hope to reach a million by early december. WTF? And what's the total lack of peripherals? This is just total incompetence on the part of nintendo. They advertise the crap out of the wii as a family system and then fail to provide wiimotes and nunchuks for those families. Unfrickin bellevable. And what is with these guys and their abhorence of supplying nintendo owners with component cables? Do these guys ever bother reading the message boards. Clearly not, since on numerous boards, the failure of nintendo to provide component cables in a timely manner is a real sore point. How hard can it be to make some effin cables?

I guess nintendo figured since they're making money on the console, they don't have to make money on accessories.

Those are mostly all legitimate complaints. In week two of Lines Around The Building (which I forced myself to wait in against all my normal principles) there was a LOT of complaining about the lack of component cables and extra controllers. I was lucky that I picked an extra controller on a whim when they were on shelves a couple days before launch.

Regarding a "million at launch" vs "a million by early December" we're talking, what a couple weeks? They are definitely pumping out units faster than you normally see at a systems launch.

I believe the demand is truly higher than anticipated. Usually it's just hardcore fanboys and game junkies in console launch lines; and that seemed to be most of the line; yet in talking with people near me in the line, there was a guy, non-console non-nintendo gamer who was a PC guy there because of the control. And the guy right next to me was 40 and had NEVER OWNED A CONSOLE IN HIS LIFE.

He'd read about it in Wall Street Journal or NY Times or something, and was totally smitten with the ideas the system are based on. Where there's some, there's always more. This kind of thing makes me think Nintendo may really catch both hardcore and oldschool fans as well as this "non-gaming" demographic they want to bring in.

I mean, this old guy I work with played the Wii before I did at his Nephew's house. This is a guy who derides gaming (primarily my addiction to handhelds at work.) But anyway, he was raving about how much fun he had playing the Wii, and was immitating his baseball and golf moves. It's really cool to see 100% Non-Gamers suddenly derive so much joy from the hobby that all of us have loved for years.

[PapaSmurf]

Those are mostly all legitimate complaints. In week two of Lines Around The Building (which I forced myself to wait in against all my normal principles) there was a LOT of complaining about the lack of component cables and extra controllers. I was lucky that I picked an extra controller on a whim when they were on shelves a couple days before launch.

Regarding a "million at launch" vs "a million by early December" we're talking, what a couple weeks? They are definitely pumping out units faster than you normally see at a systems launch.

I believe the demand is truly higher than anticipated. Usually it's just hardcore fanboys and game junkies in console launch lines; and that seemed to be most of the line; yet in talking with people near me in the line, there was a guy, non-console non-nintendo gamer who was a PC guy there because of the control. And the guy right next to me was 40 and had NEVER OWNED A CONSOLE IN HIS LIFE.

He'd read about it in Wall Street Journal or NY Times or something, and was totally smitten with the ideas the system are based on. Where there's some, there's always more. This kind of thing makes me think Nintendo may really catch both hardcore and oldschool fans as well as this "non-gaming" demographic they want to bring in.

I mean, this old guy I work with played the Wii before I did at his Nephew's house. This is a guy who derides gaming (primarily my addiction to handhelds at work.) But anyway, he was raving about how much fun he had playing the Wii, and was immitating his baseball and golf moves. It's really cool to see 100% Non-Gamers suddenly derive so much joy from the hobby that all of us have loved for years.

Gad I think you're on to something. I was with my cousin during thanksgiving and he's not generally a gamer. He used to play CS alot back in high school but now it so-so. Definitely doesn't own any consoles. All of this and the only thing he could talk to me about was how he was trying to find a Wii. I was shocked. He didn't want a PS3 or 360, just a Wii. I have a feeling this new Nintendo gig is going to be more than just a sleeper hit.

[Gadfly2317]

Gad I think you're on to something. I was with my cousin during thanksgiving and he's not generally a gamer. He used to play CS alot back in high school but now it so-so. Definitely doesn't own any consoles. All of this and the only thing he could talk to me about was how he was trying to find a Wii. I was shocked. He didn't want a PS3 or 360, just a Wii. I have a feeling this new Nintendo gig is going to be more than just a sleeper hit.

And to a lot of these people, the lower price is great, and the graphics and lack of HD aren't even an issue. The games will probably look great to them since many of these people don't really look at games.

Personally, I'm in a real dilemma with the system. I do think it's cool, but I've also been buying consoles every generation for a LONG time, and I've gotten really used to also getting a big graphical bump whenenver I get a next-gen system. Unless the Wii has some untapped potential we're not seeing in the first games--unless we can at least get something that looks like Xbox on steroids soon, it's very dissapointing.

When it comes to gameplay vs graphics, I side with gameplay innovation, BUT. . . I want the graphics too. Sure, most households haven't gone HD yet, but I have and the Wii, as cool as the control is, it's not going to be enough to fully satisfy me. . . which I guess is why everyone is like "360 + Wii" is necessary. None of these consoles alone give me what I want.

As a Nintendo fan, I wish my first Wii posts could be more positive. . . I have a lot of things positive I can and will say about the system when I'm ready to post impressions, but the launch titles are underwhelming, I won't play Zelda until I get a component cable, and what I am playing are just the Rayman and Wii Sports mini-games. I won't know how I'll really feel about the system until something with substance is out for it. . . and who knows when that will be. I've never bought a system and then the next day, was still thinking about which of the other two I am going to get next.