PS3 Launch Price Revealed [Archive] - VideoGameReview Forums

Zilla Man

05-08-2006, 07:03 PM

Just given at Sony Press Conference:

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/705/705742p1.html

Two configs -- one with 20 gigs -- $499; One with 60 gigs -- $599. Two million planned for launch worldwide.

I'm betting they drop the price to $399. Why? Remember in 1995 when Saturn and PS1 were due to both launch in the fall? Sega President Tom Kalinske announced the Saturn launching at $350 at an E3 press conference. As soon as he stepped down from the podium Sony President Jim Whenders leaned into the mic and said "Sony Playstation: $250." The whole auditorium erupted in applause and gasps.

Sony may do the same thing once Wii reveals it's price.

Oh, and one more thing, Sony/Harrison: enough with the %*&$#@ Ducks already!!! They were lame the first time we saw them and they're lame now. Geez

theWacoKid

05-08-2006, 07:21 PM

You really are effin clueless when it comes to your videogame history. The saturn launched at $399 US and sega did an ill advised suprise launch in may shortly after E3. Sony launched on september 9 at a price of $299.

Live with it, sony boy, the price is $499. Since when has sony ever responded to a price cut from nintendo?

Fivespot

05-08-2006, 07:26 PM

Wow, quite pricey. Any word on an integrated online service similar to XBOX Live? If yes, has the price been announced?

Zilla Man

05-08-2006, 07:40 PM

theWacoKid

05-08-2006, 08:08 PM

Poor Waco. :(

Can't read what you posted but I've noticed that people in the other threads are ignoring you too. Guess they're all finally catching on...

BTW, I'll be thinking of you when I'm at the show -- everytime I look at a Booth Babe's chest. You'll always be just a boob to me, Waco...

Enjoy your bile and wannabe EB status...

There are no booth babes at this year's E3, idiot! And you're about as dumb as they come, you're responding to a post you haven't even read, now that's dumb. The whole point of the "to ignore" feature is to ignore the poster not acknowledge his existence. Thanks for the continued attention, and say hello to the EA janitorial staff you get your scoops from.

theWacoKid

05-08-2006, 08:14 PM

Wow, quite pricey. Any word on an integrated online service similar to XBOX Live? If yes, has the price been announced?

They showed some snippets but unless you' re running it on a computer monitor I don't how you would read all that info they displayed. Service is free, but they've got the microtransaction thing going on. There were no details as to how third parties are involved. The biggest hassle with the ps2 online is having to register for each separate publisher. Its still all very vague.

I'll be interested to see the breakdown of 20gig versus 60gig hd units. You know sony is going to be pushing the 60gig units, the profit margin of that upgrade is going to be sizeable. So, good luck sony fans trying to find the elusive 20 gig unit for $499.

Superjoint Ritual

05-08-2006, 08:17 PM

Irrational anger? Check

" Clever " name calling? Check

Fanboy's ready for war? Check

It must be time for E3! :thumbsup:

Oh, by the way, Sony can take their 500-600 dollar console and go **** themselves. I'm sure they will lower it... Right?

theWacoKid

05-08-2006, 08:25 PM

No, they're not going to lower the price. The reason for the price announcement now is to get people over the shock factor and get them used to the $500 price point. Sony over the next months will be spelling out why $500 is the frickin bargain of the century for their uber console. Sony is counting on the attention that bluray will receive this coming holiday season as being a big factor that will move ps3s.

Sony is going to sell every unit they produce which won't be many, so why should they blow the ps3 out at bargain sale prices. Home theater types won't blink twice at $500 or $600 for the ps3.

Uh-oh, it gets worse. This just in from IGN. That 20 gig hd model is missing features. Ack, ack, ack.

Looking at the official press site of SCEA, we noticed that the PS3 with the 20 gigabyte hard drive seemed to lack HDMI support. This seems to be confirmed by an offical press release from SCEA, which indicates via comparison between the two systems. However, it also indicates that the 20 gigabyte system won't have Memory Stick, SD or Compact Flash reading capability or WiFi support.

Superjoint Ritual

05-08-2006, 08:30 PM

Is 40 gigs extra on the HD really worth 100 bucks? Honest question.

Fivespot

05-08-2006, 08:32 PM

Is 40 gigs extra on the HD really worth 100 bucks? Honest question.

It is if you can't upgrade the 20 gig model. Isn't the HD internal unlike the 360's detachable version?

Superjoint Ritual

05-08-2006, 08:33 PM

Uh-oh, it gets worse. This just in from IGN. That 20 gig hd model is missing features. Ack, ack, ack. Just answered my last question. Damn,the 20 gig model is the new 'tard pack. :eek:

slade

05-08-2006, 08:36 PM

Yowch, no way to spin this. Console war over. All hail our new MS overlords!!!!!!!

Superjoint Ritual

05-08-2006, 08:42 PM

Yowch, no way to spin this. Console war over. All hail our new MS overlords!!!!!!!Wrong! Nintendo's is going to use their Wii to penetrate places in the market M$ can't reach.

slade

05-08-2006, 08:50 PM

Wrong! Nintendo's is going to use their Wii to penetrate places in the market M$ can't reach.

Aside from the fact that it sounds like you're trying to sell me on a porno, I'd say you're wrong. Nintendo is going to fail once again. Only this time, I'll be laughing at them along with everybody else.

theWacoKid

05-08-2006, 08:50 PM

Here's a link to a sony pdf file which lists the specs of the two models.

http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/rele...f/060509ae.pdf

Blu ray drive is a 2x speed model. But, the pdf file confirms no hdmi, no mem card support or wifi for the 20gig model. As far as I'm concerned this is a very similar situation to the core / premium situation on the 360 except add $200 to the price point. 60gig hd version is definitely the way to go if you're thinking online and looking to utilize multimedia functions.

Also, the ps3 is physically bigger and heavier than the 360, this is not a small console.

Additionallly perusing the spec sheet sony has dropped the number of usb ports from 6 to 4, the gigabit ethernet ports from 3 to 1 and bye bye dual hdmi for a single hdmi port, 60gig hd version only.

mandark

05-08-2006, 08:52 PM

Wrong! Nintendo's is going to use their Wii to penetrate places in the market M$ can't reach.
That is true. First thing that came to mind after seeing those prices was, "Thank God for Nintendo and their Wii". At those prices I will not be getting a PS3 for at least a year. My PC upgrades are a bit more important.

BTW, does your avatar represent the Wii tang clan? ;)

theWacoKid

05-08-2006, 09:18 PM

In looking over transfer speeds i've discovered the following. Pulled from the teamxbox forums.

DVD 12X = 132.96 Mbps
Blu-Ray Discs at 2x = 72Mbps

Ps3 is going to suck for loads, no wonder they're going with a standard hard drive.

The dual shock controller also sucks for fps games. I can't believe sony is not going with an offset design if they intend on moving into the fps market. Plus the dual shock sticks have poor senstivity. The same design three generation in a row, I don't know.

Let's see what nintendo has in store with the wii. At a $249 rumored price point and Zelda for a launch game, nintendo should do very well this xmas. Nintendo's press conference is tomorrow morning. 9:30PST, 12:30EST. Should be interesting.

Superjoint Ritual

05-08-2006, 09:36 PM

Aside from the fact that it sounds like you're trying to sell me on a porno, I'd say you're wrong. Nintendo is going to fail once again. Only this time, I'll be laughing at them along with everybody else. Go the GA forums, and check out the guy who just got the new EGM. It sounds like Nintendo is going to destroy everyone this E3.

Mario will be a Wii launch title.

Zelda will have revmote control. Considering downloadable content.

Wii is always on, even when turn it off.

Also, there's speakers on the Revo remote, but people don't seem to think that's the big secret.

Tomorrow is going to be HUUUUGE for n-bots like myself.

folken001

05-08-2006, 09:40 PM

MGS4 + FFXIII = Xbox 360's death....

I don't know about you guys, I'll get one sooner or later.

For those who can't afford, it's time to get a job.

theWacoKid

05-08-2006, 10:03 PM

MGS4 + FFXIII = Xbox 360's death....

I don't know about you guys, I'll get one sooner or later.

For those who can't afford, it's time to get a job.

Yeah, in 2009 or whenever those games appear and if anybody still gives a damn.

Superjoint Ritual

05-08-2006, 10:03 PM

MGS4 + FFXIII = Xbox 360's death....

I don't know about you guys, I'll get one sooner or later.

For those who can't afford, it's time to get a job. Let's assume both games are available at launch, that means you'll be droping 720 bucks in one fell swope. I can afford it, but why the hell would I pay that much? Especially considering Sony's track record as far as tech issues, you can bet I won't be in line at launch. I'll pick one up in 3 years when it's 400 dollars... LMAO!

I'm sure Sony will drop the price before launch... Surely their not this stupid.

Pandarbock

05-08-2006, 10:29 PM

Let's assume both games are available at launch, that means you'll be droping 720 bucks in one fell swope. I can afford it, but why the hell would I pay that much? Especially considering Sony's track record as far as tech issues, you can bet I won't be in line at launch. I'll pick one up in 3 years when it's 400 dollars... LMAO!

I'm sure Sony will drop the price before launch... Surely their not this stupid.

Yeah drop the price and some more funtionality, maybe they will release a non blue ray version for 299.99, heck the 499.99 one basically fits that bill as it is pointless for it to even have a blue ray drive as it won't be able to play blue ray movies (movie play back requires HDMI because of the security) and I am sure none of the launch titles or 1st or second year titles will even fill up a DVD 9.

slade

05-09-2006, 04:51 AM

I'm not paying seven hundred dollars Canadian for a videogame machine. No way in hell. I don't care what games launch with it or what services it has. It was apparent from the start that Sony was going to go after the DVD market in lieu of the VG one, but I thought the price would be a little more resonable. Even the retard pack costs a hundred dollars more then the 360 Premium package. I can wait for the games to either get ported or wait for a price drop. Thank god that RE5 is coming to 360. Now if only DMC4 ends up there too.

Gadfly2317

05-09-2006, 06:29 AM

$599 + tax = 649.91. Plus just one game and you're over $700. What's funny is that because there's been little new to entice me lately, and I put the same amount of money in my game jar ever month, I could buy any of this sh!t I want, but so far the Ps3 just doesn't do it for me at all.

The Wii is a no-brainer, especially if it's only $249; I can't even imagine what kind of "gamer" isn't wanting to play this thing, stupid name or not.

I think the other two can sit on a shelf for awhile and I'll spend the surplus cash on more music equipment.

Rogue Bounty Hunter

05-09-2006, 07:07 AM

The Wii is a no-brainer, especially if it's only $249; I can't even imagine what kind of "gamer" isn't wanting to play this thing, stupid name or not.

It will depend on the games. Nintendo's first party games and Red Steel alone isn't enough for me to want to play it, regardless of price or hardware. It will really be up to the 3rd party devs and their possible exclusive games that will make the difference.

trebor

05-09-2006, 07:44 AM

Strange... sensations... washing over me... Microsoft 360... looking... more attractive... more viable... Oblivion must have... Sony... not so much....

ThaMaskedGamer

05-09-2006, 07:54 AM

There are no booth babes at this year's E3, idiot!

You should have waited until after E3 started to expose him as a fraud. Going to E3 my azz. Industry sources my azz. Friends in the industry my azz.

trebor

05-09-2006, 08:21 AM

There are no booth babes at this year's E3, idiot!

Actually, there WILL be booth babes, but they will be more covered up then in the past.

The stipulation at this year's E3 was that scantily clad "booth babes" aren't allowed, but appropriately dressed, um, hot sexy booth "representatives" will be there in droves.

Sorry, Wacko, your wrong yet again!

ThaMaskedGamer

05-09-2006, 08:28 AM

Well about this time last year all you Sony guys were roasting the 360 and its two sku, the prices, everything.

What a difference a year makes. But for all of you Sony fanatics out there who have been killing 360 and MS, be careful to not overstuff yourself when you are eating that crow!

So we have so many Sony guys claiming their jumping ship! Yeah right, Slade is not gonna buy a PS3! Okay, like I believe that. I'll give him 6 months.

Well guys, I'm buying a PS3. Who gives a damn about the price? 360 was $400, I think everything PS3 is offering is worth $499. I don't care about the 60G HDD version. However, there is one huge caveat! If it is true that the 20G PS3 will be spec'd differently, then FUGG U Sony! After all that talk about HDMI and this and that, it better not be different! So Sony here is your chance to do the right thing!

I find it odd though that people are balking about the price. I mean u guys really need to cut Sony some slack on the price! Put your money where your mouths are. Since 360 launched u guys have been saying blu-ray, the extra power, etc etc is worth a bump in price over 360. I agree, I said I'd buy a PS3 at $500, if blu-ray is the standard and it very well could be, that's a pittance compared to a standalone blu-ray player.

Also how many of you guys bought 2 PS2's? The stand alone HDD? Memory cards? You spent that much last gen anyway. I'll wait a year and see if this system is built to last, obviously you don't want to be buying a PS3 if it is as cheaply made as the PS2 was! I think Sony better damn well make sure that people don't have to buy a second console, their little secondary revenue stream scam better end with this console!

Now, if I do buy a PS3 at launch, it will only be to sell it on Ebay! I won't buy a PS3 to game on until XMAS 2007 when some good games will be available for it.

Cuddly Knife

05-09-2006, 08:30 AM

I would get it at launch probably if the PS2 library was done for, but damn, there are still some excellent games coming out for it, so it looks like I'll be another one who'll wait this one out for a price drop.

All the hating towards MS for offering 2 SKU's, and now it looks like Sony is doing the exact same thing.

Is it fact that the HDD will not be replaceable? That's a friggin bummer and 1/2 if that's the truth.

I guess the price is not much of a shock to me, since I believed the guys who thought that it would be at about five hundred Benjamins, but me getting the system depends on the launch titles. Give me next-gen Tekken, a sort of Live service, at least two decent platformers, and I'll be on board in a hurry. What am I saying? I'll be on board ASAP, knowing my addiction.

BTW, I'm still using my original PS2, and that's since I got Tekken Tag. Was that at launch for the PS2? What I mean is, I've heard all this negativity towards MS and Sony systems going to sh!t, but the one that I've had the most problems with has been my Cube, so I've no reason to fear the launch glitches, yet.

Anyone else just going straight in like me? There has to be a few at least. I know there was a couple of people that said they wouldn't get a 360, but then they ended up getting one before me.

I'm glad they stuck with the Dual Shock style for the controller, but kind of grumpy that they took away rumble function. Are these controllers supposed to be wireless? Grrr, if they are.

I don't know. I'm kind of confused for some reason. Maybe instead of a PS3, I'll get me a PC. Uh-oh, Sony.

Trebor, shut up and dance! You can't fight the groove.

ThaMaskedGamer

05-09-2006, 09:03 AM

Anyone else just going straight in like me?

If I can snag a system at launch, I will and see if I can sell if for a few thousand. That's easy money right there, I regret not being able to do when 360 launched. There is no way i'm gonna sit idlely buy and watch people make out like that. Am I so lazy that I can't put my name on a freakin list, pick it up when comes, and re-list it on Ebay! I did it for the original XBOX I bought 2 units at launch and sold one, but didn't make no where near the profit people made off of 360. Hell with that profit that will pay my gaming fix for a good year and cover the price of another PS3 xmas 2007.

Superjoint Ritual

05-09-2006, 09:07 AM

.Well guys, I'm buying a PS3. Who gives a damn about the price? 360 was $400, I think everything PS3 is offering is worth $499. I don't care about the 60G HDD version. However, there is one huge caveat! If it is true that the 20G PS3 will be spec'd differently, then FUGG U Sony! After all that talk about HDMI and this and that, it better not be different! So Sony here is your chance to do the right thing!

I find it odd though that people are balking about the price. I mean u guys really need to cut Sony some slack on the price! Put your money where your mouths are. Since 360 launched u guys have been saying blu-ray, the extra power, etc etc is worth a bump in price over 360. I agree, I said I'd buy a PS3 at $500, if blu-ray is the standard and it very well could be, that's a pittance compared to a standalone blu-ray player.

Also how many of you guys bought 2 PS2's? The stand alone HDD? Memory cards? You spent that much last gen anyway. I'll wait a year and see if this system is built to last, obviously you don't want to be buying a PS3 if it is as cheaply made as the PS2 was! I think Sony better damn well make sure that people don't have to buy a second console, their little secondary revenue stream scam better end with this console!

Now, if I do buy a PS3 at launch, it will only be to sell it on Ebay! I won't buy a PS3 to game on until XMAS 2007 when some good games will be available for it. The 'tard pack has 40 gigs less of space, no HDMI, and no WIFI. Even the 360's 'tard pack wasn't that retarded. After two games, an extra controller, you're looking at spending around 800 bucks. That's just stupid.

theWacoKid

05-09-2006, 10:40 AM

Well, the gaming media is starting to react to sony's presser. 1up's reaction.

Everyone knew that Sony would come out swinging eventually. Every Sony press conference is the same. Kaz, in all his wooden head glory hops on stage and goes through the motions like a depressed, used cars salesman. A few Powerpoint slides here, some graphics showing just how much more awesome their plastic box is to the other guys plastic box and then, just when you think it's all said and done, they drop their bombs.

And as expected, they dropped some bombs. Only this time, instead of going into the following day to see how the survivors are dealing with the wreckage, we're staring straight back at Sony and the damage they did to themselves. The bombs, for once, backfired. Damage was dealt, but for the most part, there was a severe, premature detonation.

The conference, for all intents and purposes, was a disaster. From an atrocious looking demo of Gran Turismo 4 running in high definition (Why did we need to watch this for 10 minutes?) to an almost pitiful Kaz Hirai almost begging for applause when showing off the original Ridge Racer running on a PSP ("It's Ridge Racer. . . RIDGE RACER!").

With the exception of the absolutely stunning Metal Gear Solid 4 trailer -- a title that I, even as a Metal Gear fan really wasn't interested in until that moment, everything was a dud. And yet, they managed to top themselves.

It would should have been the single moment in time where we could pinpoint exactly where Sony would continue their reign upon the console throne, we were thrown for a loop. We were punked.

Somewhere in Los Angeles, a smile crept slowly across the face of Microsoft's Peter Moore. No longer would the term "Tard Pack" be synonymous with Microsoft and his XBOX 360.

For now, Sony has managed to one up them. Presenting, The Playstation 3 Tard Pack. Yes, for only $499 dollars, you too can own a crippled Blu-Ray player, complete with a lack of much touted WiFi connectivity (Peace out wireless PSP interaction) and memory stick slots that would not only make way for a sort of open source "memory card" solution, but also the "Ultimate media center" angle goes out the window too.

As for the tilt-and-tumble addition to the Dual Shock -- Oh. While I'm thinking about information that Sony forgot to mention during their conference (Yet, did manage to slip into their official press release), the Dual Shock now lacks that which the name was coined after, being vibration. Regardless, I already had my word on that.

I will hand it Sony. They most certainly made sure that today, being Tuesday, will be very, very interesting. I'm a bit frightened that Reggie might burst onto stage tomorrow morning and drink the blood of slaughtered barn yard creatures, but regardless, Nintendo has to respond to this revelation. And as for Microsoft, well, they've quite frankly never looked better at this point

It was a dreadful presentation overall. You could see the flop sweat on the sony execs. They knew they were bombing big time.

theWacoKid

05-09-2006, 10:44 AM

The 'tard pack has 40 gigs less of space, no HDMI, and no WIFI. Even the 360's 'tard pack wasn't that retarded. After two games, an extra controller, you're looking at spending around 800 bucks. That's just stupid.

You forgot the tard pack also doesn't accept memory cards. Worse, you can't brighten your tard pack. There is no upgrade path with the unit.

trebor

05-09-2006, 10:57 AM

You forgot the tard pack also doesn't accept memory cards. Worse, you can't brighten your tard pack. There is no upgrade path with the unit.

Doesn't that also mean the "Tard" pack will also be incompatible with PS1/2 games?

theWacoKid

05-09-2006, 11:36 AM

Doesn't that also mean the "Tard" pack will also be incompatible with PS1/2 games?

Why? You won't be able to use existing memory cards, we knew that already, so you'll have to replay ps1/ps2 games from scratch. Both skus have a hard drive for game saves. The big caveat that sony has pulled with respect to b/c is that ttites must adhere to TRC criteria, and that could mean a sizeable number of titles won't play. Estimates are up to 50% of ps2 titles might not make the cut.

trebor

05-09-2006, 11:45 AM

Why? You won't be able to use existing memory cards, we knew that already, so you'll have to replay ps1/ps2 games from scratch. Both skus have a hard drive for game saves. The big caveat that sony has pulled with respect to b/c is that ttites must adhere to TRC criteria, and that could mean a sizeable number of titles won't play. Estimates are up to 50% of ps2 titles might not make the cut.

So both versions will only have limited b/c? Suddenly, the 360's b/c issues aren't looking so bad afterall.

Mochan

05-09-2006, 11:46 AM

The dual shock controller also sucks for fps games. I can't believe sony is not going with an offset design if they intend on moving into the fps market. Plus the dual shock sticks have poor senstivity. The same design three generation in a row, I don't know.

Sensitivity has been upped via increasing the analogue measurement from 8bits to 10bits. That said I wish they changed the design.

DVD 12X = 132.96 Mbps
Blu-Ray Discs at 2x = 72Mbps

Ps3 is going to suck for loads, no wonder they're going with a standard hard drive.

I'm not sold on the suckitude of the loading, especially since a DVD takes a couple of minutes to warm up to reach its full 12x speed.

Anyway I can now look forward to the PS3 retailing for about $1400US over here. Great. Good thing I got my beloved PC to keep me busy, and oh that Wii is looking ever more tasty. If it gets some killer apps on board it's a no-brainer, unless they pull a brainfart and announce $400 Wii.

folken001

05-09-2006, 06:15 PM

I won't buy one right off the bat either. But with games like FF13 and MGS4 coming to PS3, I am pretty sure I'll have one sooner or later.

Zilla Man

05-09-2006, 07:43 PM

You should have waited until after E3 started to expose him as a fraud. Going to E3 my azz. Industry sources my azz. Friends in the industry my azz.

You really like to be b*tch-slapped, don't you?

I don't mind the envy though, MG. After all, Green IS the color of the 360 -- right?

And Waco "I can't get anybody to read my threads because I suck", Trebor is right -- there are Booth Babes at the show this year, you idiot.

Now why don't you and MG stick your heads together and make an ass out of yourselves...

Jupiter_x

05-09-2006, 08:35 PM

theWacoKid

05-09-2006, 09:38 PM

You really like to be b*tch-slapped, don't you?

I don't mind the envy though, MG. After all, Green IS the color of the 360 -- right?

And Waco "I can't get anybody to read my threads because I suck", Trebor is right -- there are Booth Babes at the show this year, you idiot.

Now why don't you and MG stick your heads together and make an ass out of yourselves...

I thought you were ignoring me. The booth babes can be there but they have to comply with a proper dress code, otherwise a $5000 fine is payable on the spot and they'll be forced to cover up. If they don't enforce the policy like they say they're going to, that's their frickin business. But if a bimbo isn't going to be in a bikini, then what's the point?

And let me lmao when your latest round of stupid predctions go up in smoke like that sony press conference. Man, was that pathetic when Kaz tried get people to clap for ridge racer running under emulation on the psp. Earth to kaz, choose another game that hasn't already shown up on the psp.

If people don't want to respond to my threads, that's their business. I'm not out here pawning myself off as an insider like you with his big name contacts. And getting Steve, er, Larry Probst's name wrong. Yeah, EA hates the 360, blah, blah, blah. I got the inside scoop, here are my thoroughly useless predictions.

Mochan

05-10-2006, 05:21 AM

Well guys, I'm buying a PS3. Who gives a damn about the price? 360 was $400, I think everything PS3 is offering is worth $499. I don't care about the 60G HDD version. However, there is one huge caveat! If it is true that the 20G PS3 will be spec'd differently, then FUGG U Sony! After all that talk about HDMI and this and that, it better not be different! So Sony here is your chance to do the right thing!

Again, I find it strange... I am once again in agreement with TMG.

The price isn't really much of a consideration, and besides a little later down the line the price will drop and I'll be picking up a PS3 then. As I had mentioned before, I'll be buying a PS3 but probaby about two years down the line, 1 year at best.

I was also fully expecting a model coming out at $500, was also expecting a higher model with more HD capacity out at a higher price ever since we heard there'd be multiple size HDs. I don't mind this kind of different SKU, it's a different matter from MS's w/HD and w/o HD idiocy, but if Sony pulls a different spec thing (I'm not just talking about lack of WiFi, that's not really a spec issue but more like the cheaper units have more SPEs disabled or something) then there will be hell to pay.

As I've said over and over, console gaming is about uniformity and convenience, and introducing different SKUs with different performance is going down the darkside of PC gaming.

Anyone else just going straight in like me? There has to be a few at least. I know there was a couple of people that said they wouldn't get a 360, but then they ended up getting one before me.

Well, I don't intend to buy one at launch. If it were just $500, sure. But when it comes out here I'm sure it'll cost at least $1000, and that's too much for me.

The Rev on the other hand will probalby retail for $250 in the US, which will probably translate to around $500 here. Which is an acceptable price for me.

Fivespot

05-10-2006, 08:30 AM

I recall Sony calling MS's two SKU's a mistake (I'm paraphrasing). Funny how a year or so later they do the exact same thing.

If I can find some time in the next few days, it might be fun to go back and see what Sony has said over the last year and identify all the areas where they say one thing and deliver something else entirely (using my one example above for starters).

lthrface

05-10-2006, 03:34 PM

Hey, I'm a newbie here. Let me tell you when I heard that the PS3 was going to be $499 & 599 I did say wtf is Sony doing. But then I recalled a couple of articles I read some time ago, saying most of the game publishers could not wait to start manufacturing games on HD dvd & blu-ray just on the storage capacity alone. Unless Microsoft is giving away the hd dvd players(which I doubt lol) isn't the price going to be negligible?

joquito

05-10-2006, 05:36 PM

So lets get this straight. The 20gig PS3 will ultimately be useless in regards to playing Blu-ray movies. The movie studios don't want to allow High Def content to be outputted via component video. They say they will allow it initially, but no time limit was given. Most assume once one format is established, High Def movies will start forcing players (Or PS3s) to down-rez the output to 540p (Not High Def) on component video outputs.

In regards to gaming this means absolutely nothing. For those who buy the cheaper PS3 with the intent to use it to watch Blu-ray movies, you will eventually have to bend over and accept Sony's usual hard thrust, if the format actually takes off.

GameLegend

05-10-2006, 06:28 PM

Horngreen

05-14-2006, 09:11 PM

ThaMaskedGamer

05-15-2006, 07:05 AM

Just when u think the company is on the right path they do something totally dumb! I know we have been talking about this for a few days, but I really didn't believe it until I read it on CNN. It seems like Sony will indeed remove HDMI output and WI-FI from the 20GB version and charge $499. Basically they are taking away HD Movies and WI-FI and still charging $100 more than the 360. Why take away WI-FI too?

The only move I see is for people to buy the $600 60GB version. But there is no need to do that immediately because there won't be very many blu-ray movies to watch, it could take a good year to see which format will win(why pay that money and HD-DVD wins), and finally there won't be very many good games or at least games that are better than 360. Plus if 2 million are coming to the US for the holidays, you figure only half of those will be the $600 version. Why not just wait a year and hope they are forced to reduce the price?

I don't know why i didn't believe it, I guess it just seems like such an incredibly dumb move, they cannot be serious about being #1 again.

Gadfly2317

05-15-2006, 07:11 AM

DrunkenThumbmaster

05-15-2006, 07:30 AM

The idocy of this is that a major focus of there campaign for the PS3 is HD play back. So they go around and sell a very expensive console with this feature handicapped. It's so stupid this hurts them so what if the $500 version takes off and why wouldn't it. If your main concern is games it's just as functional as the $600 version and you can always use componet cables. All this does is lose the trojan horse aspect for the BLU Ray.

Second mistake is there is no way to upgrade besides go out and buy a whole other console.

joquito

05-15-2006, 09:11 AM

If you buy a PS3, you not only have to hope Sony remains the dominant console maker but also that the Blu-Ray format catches on. Its widely known that Sony is in deep financial Doo Doo. The end of Blu-ray could be the end of Sony. If Blu-ray fails, one could easily make the argument that Sony cannot make up for the losses of Blu-ray with the PS3 given stiff competition.from Microsoft.. (Granted if Sony Corp goes under, someone like Disney, EA, or even MS would buy the playstation brand and keep it going somehow..)

DrunkenThumbmaster

05-15-2006, 11:25 AM

I have another question about the price. Apparently Blu-Ray disc are more expensive to manufacture so does that mean PS3 games will be more expensive. We know 3rd parties are charging $60 on 360 but who's going to eat the cost of Blu ray manufacture? Sony? or are they just going to pass on the price? Is it possible that PS3 games are going to be $70-$80 I still remembering my mom buying me Super Street Fighter 3 for the Snes for $80 bucks that was the last videogame she ever bought me.

The price point isn't going to fly Sony is going to have to adjust.

slade

05-16-2006, 09:26 AM

The 20 gig unit is not a bad deal if all you want to do is play games. And the 20 gig harddrive is upgradeable.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/708/708601p1.html

Personally, this is the unit I would get if I had to have one. I was considering WIFI but don't want to pay another hundred dollars for that.

Mochan

05-16-2006, 10:14 AM

Why take away WI-FI too?

WiFi is expensive, that's why. It's one of the places you can cut corners if you were trying to lower the price.

Anyway I made no secret that I would wait and see for about a year or two with the PS3, what I did not anticipate was that things would come to such that everyone else will probably also wait and see for about a year or two.

This is probably going to be sooo different from the PS2 launch where the things were selling like pancakes.

Gadfly2317

05-16-2006, 06:32 PM

This is probably going to be sooo different from the PS2 launch where the things were selling like pancakes.

Is it relevant to note that pancake sales are down significantly?

Mochan

05-16-2006, 07:49 PM

Hey! I just ate at Pancake House last week and it was packed!

See, this is why America is going to the dogs. People aren't eating pancakes anymore!

Rogue Bounty Hunter

05-17-2006, 05:55 AM

The 20 gig unit is not a bad deal if all you want to do is play games. And the 20 gig harddrive is upgradeable.

That's all I want to do with consoles nowadays, play games. All of this movie playback, Hi-Def movie viewing, etc, really doesn't appeal to me right now, and I'd rather not pay for things I probably will not use.

See, this is why America is going to the dogs. People aren't eating pancakes anymore!

I haven't had pancakes in a few years. I can't just eat the 'cakes and be happy, I have to accessorize with some type of meat and eggs, and possibly some type of hash brown substance.