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trebor
04-04-2006, 01:30 PM
that prints money for Nintendo.


Nintendo annual profit biggest since 2001

Ultrapopular DS, weak yen dumped $807 million of net income into the Mario factory's coffers last year.

When Nintendo first unveiled the DS in January 2004, many people in the game industry were skeptical. The so-called "innovative machine" was unlike anything that had been seen before, and a lot of detractors laughed off its dual screens as a gimmick.

Two years later, it's the executives at Nintendo who are laughing. Today, the company reported its biggest annual profit since 2001. For the financial year ending March 31, the company took in a whopping 95 billion yen ($807 million) in net income--an 8.7 percent rise from the previous financial year. The earnings beat Nintendo's own forecast, which called for a 14 percent drop in earnings for the year.

In its report, Nintendo cited two main factors for the better-than-expected earnings. First was a weaker than estimated yen, which allowed software and hardware sales in Europe and the US to boost its bottom line more than they normally would. The second factor was sales of the DS in Japan, which Nintendo deemed "favorable." That term smacks of Japanese understatement, as the handheld has been a sensation in the country, selling more than 5 million units and sparking the ongoing brain-training game craze.

Today's news was especially good if you owned a piece of a Nintendo. Instead of the 270 yen ($2.29) per-share payout stockholders were expecting, the company will now dole out 370 yen ($3.15) per share.
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By Tor Thorsen

I can't be bothered to find the exact thread where I was arguing with someone regarding what a profit forecast is, but I think that someone was TheMaskedGamer.

So, do you now see how a profit forecast is different from actual profits?

trebor
04-04-2006, 01:48 PM
Here is a photo...

http://www.dsfanboy.com/media/2006/01/DSPrintsMoney.jpg

Cuddly Knife
04-04-2006, 02:12 PM
LOL, trebor, you so crazy!

Vgamer
04-07-2006, 04:07 AM
LOL Trebor... Love that picture...

trebor
04-07-2006, 07:17 AM
LOL Trebor... Love that picture...

I do too, and the financial news for Ninty was the perfect excuse to post it. For the record though, I didn't photoshop this photo, so I take no credit for it's brilliance.

Shig and Iwata look just so damn... happy. :lol:

dsgirl
04-07-2006, 11:05 PM
I do too, and the financial news for Ninty was the perfect excuse to post it. For the record though, I didn't photoshop this photo, so I take no credit for it's brilliance.

Shig and Iwata look just so damn... happy. :lol:

lol they both happy because 380,000 DS Lites and 180,000 original DS handhelds sold in the month of March. Both the handhelds have been plagued by shortages, so the number would have gone higher, if it were not for those shortages. Sony came in at a distant second, selling 150,000 PSPs and 140,000 PS2s.

what can you say

Gadfly2317
04-08-2006, 08:49 AM
lol they both happy because 380,000 DS Lites and 180,000 original DS handhelds sold in the month of March. Both the handhelds have been plagued by shortages, so the number would have gone higher, if it were not for those shortages. Sony came in at a distant second, selling 150,000 PSPs and 140,000 PS2s.

what can you say

What's been happening in Japan should be front page gaming news, and certainly a harbinger for anyone who likes guessing future trends. It's shocking, really.

It seems that this success would HAVE to translate over to the Revolution to some extent. In part because so many people in Japan currently have Nintendo on the brain in a positive way, but also because everything about the Revolution is based on the same ingredients for success we've seen in the DS: Appeal to both traditional gamers AND nongamers, lower price point, less expensive game development costs, true hardware innovation changing the way we experience games, backwards compatibility, totally new kinds of games, and good old popular franchises finally online.

GameLegend
04-08-2006, 04:13 PM
It seems that this success would HAVE to translate over to the Revolution to some extent. In part because so many people in Japan currently have Nintendo on the brain in a positive way, but also because everything about the Revolution is based on the same ingredients for success we've seen in the DS: Appeal to both traditional gamers AND nongamers, lower price point, less expensive game development costs, true hardware innovation changing the way we experience games, backwards compatibility, totally new kinds of games, and good old popular franchises finally online.

Good post. Sounds like a formula that could work again.

dsgirl
04-09-2006, 09:56 PM
What's been happening in Japan should be front page gaming news, and certainly a harbinger for anyone who likes guessing future trends. It's shocking, really.

It seems that this success would HAVE to translate over to the Revolution to some extent. In part because so many people in Japan currently have Nintendo on the brain in a positive way, but also because everything about the Revolution is based on the same ingredients for success we've seen in the DS: Appeal to both traditional gamers AND nongamers, lower price point, less expensive game development costs, true hardware innovation changing the way we experience games, backwards compatibility, totally new kinds of games, and good old popular franchises finally online.

.. and i've read news awhile ago that japanese are being addicted to crystal whit ds lite that's why they need to shipped more of that to supply all the demands...

Gadfly2317
04-10-2006, 03:23 AM
.. and i've read news awhile ago that japanese are being addicted to crystal whit ds lite that's why they need to shipped more of that to supply all the demands...

I think that's why no release doubt in the US has happened yet. . .Nintendo doesn't know when it will have enough supply to meet launch demand.

Crystal white is sold out and back-ordered with the next batch not arriving until Apr 15 (when they will promptly sell out again.) I kinda wanted a white one just so the Ipod crowd on transit might be prompted to ask "hey, when did you start being able to game on the iPod" but my impatience caused me to order the enamel navy DS Lite.

I don't care for Ipod and prefer the better functionality of my player, but I can't blame Nintendo for capitalizing on the iPod aesthetic. Ipod's do look cool, even if they are basically useless and overpriced compared to a lot of players on the market.

trebor
04-10-2006, 06:47 AM
I don't care for Ipod and prefer the better functionality of my player, but I can't blame Nintendo for capitalizing on the iPod aesthetic. Ipod's do look cool, even if they are basically useless and overpriced compared to a lot of players on the market.

I don't get the iPod hate that people have these days - half of what makes them great is how seamless and fluid they work with iTunes, which is my favorite music library program I've ever used.

Plus, a good portion of MP3 players aren't even compatible with the Macintosh platform, so for some people the iPod truly is the best portable music player available.

Gadfly2317
04-10-2006, 07:33 AM
I don't get the iPod hate that people have these days - half of what makes them great is how seamless and fluid they work with iTunes, which is my favorite music library program I've ever used.

Plus, a good portion of MP3 players aren't even compatible with the Macintosh platform, so for some people the iPod truly is the best portable music player available.

For me, it's not hate or fashion-backlash. I just have tons of music collected over the ages in formats besides just Mp3. I don't get this butt-clenched proprietary crap between MS and Apple. . .I wish the companies would get over it. If the Ipod played WMA files and OGG's, it would be helpful, because I'm not reconverting 40+gigs of music just to have a trendy player.

I really do love the small Samsung player I have, which plays all those formats, as well as displays word docs and jpg images on a bright, colorful display. It has all these features and is OLD. It seems like Ipods are just now getting around to adding some stuff besides simple Mp3 playback.

trebor
04-10-2006, 07:53 AM
For me, it's not hate or fashion-backlash. I just have tons of music collected over the ages in formats besides just Mp3. I don't get this butt-clenched proprietary crap between MS and Apple. . .I wish the companies would get over it. If the Ipod played WMA files and OGG's, it would be helpful, because I'm not reconverting 40+gigs of music just to have a trendy player.

Well, let's be realistic here - the iPod will NEVER play WMA files. It just will never happen. And I do understand the anti-proprietary format crap sentiment, but iTunes seamlessly does the converting for you and ATRAC is an excellent format in terms of sound quality to file size ratios.


I really do love the small Samsung player I have, which plays all those formats, as well as displays word docs and jpg images on a bright, colorful display. It has all these features and is OLD. It seems like Ipods are just now getting around to adding some stuff besides simple Mp3 playback.

Nobody is saying you need to get rid of your old music player (well, maybe Apple might say that) but for people who have been with iPod generally stick with iPod, despite the influx of competition. I know that I love my little iPod Shuffle - which is exactly what I wanted in a music player... a player that plays music and does nothing else.

dsgirl
04-11-2006, 12:10 AM
Well, let's be realistic here - the iPod will NEVER play WMA files. It just will never happen. And I do understand the anti-proprietary format crap sentiment, but iTunes seamlessly does the converting for you and ATRAC is an excellent format in terms of sound quality to file size ratios.



Nobody is saying you need to get rid of your old music player (well, maybe Apple might say that) but for people who have been with iPod generally stick with iPod, despite the influx of competition. I know that I love my little iPod Shuffle - which is exactly what I wanted in a music player... a player that plays music and does nothing else.

...and you can even have on your ipod while playing ds right:idea:

Gadfly2317
04-11-2006, 04:19 AM
Well, let's be realistic here - the iPod will NEVER play WMA files. It just will never happen. And I do understand the anti-proprietary format crap sentiment, but iTunes seamlessly does the converting for you and ATRAC is an excellent format in terms of sound quality to file size ratios.
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Wait a minute. . .maybe I'm woefully under-informed here, but what is ATRAC? Do iPod's not play Mp3? Do you have to convert your files to a propietary format to play on the iPod? Do I need to store the files in both formats, one to play on Ipod, and the other to play on, say, custom soundtracks on my Xbox?

trebor
04-11-2006, 07:02 AM
Wait a minute. . .maybe I'm woefully under-informed here, but what is ATRAC? Do iPod's not play Mp3? Do you have to convert your files to a propietary format to play on the iPod? Do I need to store the files in both formats, one to play on Ipod, and the other to play on, say, custom soundtracks on my Xbox?

Actually, I might have confused ATRAC with AAC, I thought they are the same thing, but to be accurate the file is AAC.

AAC is Apple's proprietary music format. iPods DO play MP3's. No, you don't need to convert your files to AAC, but I would since it's a better format than MP3. If you wanted both formats, yes you would have to store both, otherwise you could stay with MP3.

Gadfly2317
04-11-2006, 08:03 AM
Thanks for clearing that up Treb, but I still think Ipod's suck like the Patriot Act, limiting my damned freedom :D

trebor
04-11-2006, 08:07 AM
Thanks for clearing that up Treb, but I still think Ipod's suck like the Patriot Act, limiting my damned freedom :D

That's how I feel about non-Apple music players - they limit my freedom to use a Mac, since they aren't compatible.