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Robert-The-Rambler
01-12-2006, 07:10 PM
Well, today is a banner day for me. I just blew my tax return before I even got it on a rather tasty gaming rig.

I went to Best Buy and bought a nifty black case with a 500 watt power supply that has lights like the subwoofer systems in so many trunks of awful Honda Civics.(open box buy for 50 bucks) You can even see inside the clear slide out side piece much like bandpass sub setups.(Cool I must say) I also picked up a $30 Soundblaster Live 24 bit sound card for cheap 24bit 7.1 sound possibilities.(EAX 4.0 compatibility I believe)

Then I hit pricewatch.com. After the insane search of hours length I went for a pretty good getup.

Motherboard: ASUS A8R-MVP ATI RADEON Xpress 200 Crossfire motherboard
Anandtech wrote so positive about the board I bought it from Newegg.com for a steep price of $150 US!!! The few other palces that had it were a bit cheaper.

Processor: Athlon 64 3200+ 512kb cache( $160 at New Egg)

Video Cards: A Pair of Sapphire ATI Radeon X1600 XT 256 meg PCI Express cards
For 167 each at Newegg.com I was amazed since friggin pricewatch does not have them listed on their website at that LOW price.($203 is the lowest listed right now)
0 Man, for $334, you get 24 pixel shaders working together, 10 vertex shaders,(12 pixels each and 5 vertex) and access to the best AA available today. Read about it at http://www.atitech.com/technology/crossfire/index.html (Especially useful at 1024 * 768 on large screens like projections screens measured in feet) The things are clocked at 600mhz core and 1400 mhz memory with a less effective 128 bit memory interface compared to 256 bit for the X1800 series but we are talking serious speed for not a ton of money.

I also picked up a 250 gig hard drive from New Egg, too.(About $100) I already have 2 gigs of memory waiting for this setup.

So for about $1000

Asus A8R-MVP
Athlon 64 3200+
2 Radeon X1600 XT
Soundblaster Live 24 bit 7.1
2 gigs of PC 3200 system RAM
250 gig Maxtor ATA 133 hard drive

So I thought I would let everybody know that I am really hopeful about this setup and i'll be sure to try to get some benchmarks on what this kind of setup can do. NOBODY is doing tests to see how these kinds of moderate setups can fair against the more high end setups. We shall see. Is anybody else as fired up about CROSSFIRE as me?

Renzatic Gear
01-12-2006, 07:19 PM
Here's what you need to do. You need to give me your computer, then you need to forget you ever bought it. That way we're both happy.

Welcome back, by the way. :D

Mochan
01-13-2006, 09:42 AM
Welcome back RTR!

Hate to break it to you RTR but the X1600s are regarded by many to be a bad buy. For the price it simply doesn't give good performance. I am also simply not convinced about the benefits of a dual GPU solution at the moment. I would rather just buy a single better card.

Still I really don't know much about Crossfire and maybe for the price a dual X1600 Crossfire will be able to do wonders.

Renz, how come Matt 3 isn't born yet?!

And it looks like I'm the only one out of us three who bought a conservative case. I got a simple black anodized aluminium Lian Li case. No frills. But looks really smart. From your description RTR your case looks like a light show. My last PC was like that. Renz intends to get the Vento, so I guess I'm the only one who got a "normal" case.

RTR, post us some pics and benches of your PC when you're done!

Renzatic Gear
01-13-2006, 10:15 AM
Matt3 is still in the incubator at the moment. I've got bits and pieces, but I've been spending too much money on other little projects to buy it all just yet.

It'll be here one day though.

Mochan
01-13-2006, 10:34 AM
BTW RTR, the benches I am most interested in seeing are Aquamark 3 and 3DMark 05.

From what I can see, Dual GPUs are only really useful in resolutions above 1024x768. If at 10x7 a single good GPU is still better. Since I know you intend to play at 1600x1200 or more, the dual GPUs should do you good.

Robert-The-Rambler
01-13-2006, 04:01 PM
BTW RTR, the benches I am most interested in seeing are Aquamark 3 and 3DMark 05.

From what I can see, Dual GPUs are only really useful in resolutions above 1024x768. If at 10x7 a single good GPU is still better. Since I know you intend to play at 1600x1200 or more, the dual GPUs should do you good.

At 1024 * 768 I am only concerned with 14X Super AA.(Right now it is only available in a Crossfire format and is generally accepted as the best image quality) It should really help remove jaggies on my projection screen. I figure I can go max performance at mega high resolutions and max image quality on my projector at 1024 * 768. I've already been billed and by next weekend I should have a lot to report. I can download benchmark stuff for free,right?

I think a single 1600 XT pulls about a 5000 in 3DMark 05. I could not find much info at all on 1600XTs in Crossfire.

ATI's driver support really seems to be on the upswing and the Catalyst software is easy to use. OpenGL performance is improving with seemingly every driver release.