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Jupiter_x
10-07-2005, 08:57 PM
I was reading the small introductory artical from the Editor in Chief Rob Smith from the "Official Xbox Magazine Nov. issue". I was floored:



"A year from now , maybe longer, I fully expect to have Burnout Revenge in my Xbox (360?), ready to be booted up at a moments notice for another quick hit of reckless racing.
How many other Xbox games can I say that about? Not too many (and therein lies the heart of my assertion that backwards compatibility ain't all that...)

I just love how they always attempt to convince themselves and the gamers that what Xbox or Xbox 360 lacks is "A Good Thing" or "No big Deal". This moron even goes as far as to diss previous Xbox games, Yeah....Whatever!!! This magazine used to boast how much better Xbox and thier games were even in comparison to the PC versons....yet now that 360 is almost upon us, they all of sudden forget about all the "So Called" great Xbox games and could care less about B/C? Yeah right! If 360 was 100% B/C, I know for a fact that OXM, M$ and all the Xbots would praise it saying "Take that Sony and Nintendo, we can now play all the killer classic titles only found on the mighty Xbox!"

This attitude just irritates me, "If Xbox doesn't have it who cares, if they do? Great!"

I don' buy into that crap!

Superjoint Ritual
10-07-2005, 09:18 PM
Well, can't really agrue with the guy. I never thought of it that way before. I used b/c on the Ps2 several times with Xenogears, Castlevania SotN, and other ps1 games. I could see myself playing KotoR 1&2 again... But that's about it.

IMO rpg's usally age better than other genre's.

Jupiter_x
10-07-2005, 09:42 PM
Well, can't really agrue with the guy. I never thought of it that way before. I used b/c on the Ps2 several times with Xenogears, Castlevania SotN, and other ps1 games. I could see myself playing KotoR 1&2 again... But that's about it.

IMO rpg's usally age better than other genre's.

Nice play on words! :p

Of course not, who would want to play Xbox games on the new system? I would'nt, most are garbage anyway...then again...I'm no Xbot either!

My point was the principal of it! No matter how good or bad Xbox games are/were, the Xbots, OXM and the rest all praised them, no matter what! Now they simply contradicting themselves.Grrrrrrr!

Superior Beatslayer
10-07-2005, 09:55 PM
Nice play on words! :p

Of course not, we aren't Xbots!

My point was the principal of it! No matter how good or bad Xbox games are/were, the Xbots, OXM and the rest all praised them, no matter what! Now they simply contradicting themselves.Grrrrrrr!

They don't care, they're Xbots. The most ignorant narrow minded gamers there are. :rolleyes:

Jupiter_x
10-07-2005, 10:07 PM
They don't care, they're Xbots. The most ignorant narrow minded gamers there are. :rolleyes:


I assume you don't consider yourself an Xbot then? You are a gamer who plays the Xbox!
Good for you lad!

slade
10-08-2005, 01:51 AM
"A year from now , maybe longer, I fully expect to have Burnout Revenge in my Xbox (360?), ready to be booted up at a moments notice for another quick hit of reckless racing.
How many other Xbox games can I say that about? Not too many (and therein lies the heart of my assertion that backwards compatibility ain't all that...)

The man has a point and yet isn't one of the main draws of b/c the very thing he's describing? Of course, the fact that X-box has only one really good replayable game says less about b/c and more about the X-box.

Gadfly2317
10-08-2005, 06:20 AM
So the guy is saying there aren't many xbox titles with any replay value? If so, why should anyone be wasting their time with the 360? But I don't think Rob believes that; it's like you said, it's glossing over a system flaw. It's like in Aesop's fable the Fox and the Grapes. . . can't reach the Grapes? Ah the graps are probably bitter anyway.

With backward compatibility, point is, there are good Xbox titles that came out this year. Point is there are a lot of gamers who still have xbox games they want to play that they haven't played yet. Point is, with b/c you can trade in that Xbox, get a 360, and still catch up on those games you haven't played yet. Point is, first year, at $60 a game, it sure helps to be able to play your xbox library.

Also what Rob is doing, they are part of the industry, they want your money, and its a culture of "now." Forget that great game you bought last month and haven't finished. Buy THIS, buy it NOW, pay out the ass to play the NEW thing. . . even if it isn't any more fun or much different than the OLD thing. I'm very guilty myself of buying into that mentality with my consoles. With my DS, at least the new things are actually new.

theWacoKid
10-08-2005, 11:13 AM
Maybe some of you should bother reading what's written. A year from now is the operative term, and the guy is 100% correct.

A year after the 360 launch, very few people are going to care what xbox games are compatible with the 360 and even Burnout Revenge won't matter after the 360 version comes out in 2006.

B/c might matter initially, it won't after a year or so has passed. I bought a ps2 at launch, I can count on one hand the number of ps1 games I've played on it. And b/c on the ps2 is much better implemented than it will be on the ps3 or 360. Neither one of those systems have provisions for bringing over game save files. So, you'll be starting from scratch on your old titles.

This isn't a sour grapes issue, gadfly. He's just stating reality. You bit#$ing about what a ripoff the 360 represents, that's sour grapes.

T.Tashi
10-08-2005, 01:10 PM
I agree with Slade, Jupiter and Superjoint. B/C matters less when your library ain't all that. In terms of market saturation there are and will be a ton of PS2 games I want to play by the time the PS3 comes out, in particular the rpgs so Superjoint has a very legit point, IMHO and the Xbox has no real rpg depth. So the guy is correct in terms of Xbox games, but that's about it.

shogun
10-08-2005, 02:11 PM
Even if you don't use b/c that often, you'd still have the option of trading in your XBox and using the store credits to either take off a chunk of the 360's cost or buy a few games. That means a lot in and of itself. Not having a bunch of wires, controllers and consoles to deal with is nice too. PS3 and Revolution will have b/c. Only after failing at providing true b/c did MS start bashing it as unimportant. That speaks volumes as to how important it is, regardless of how the spin doctors want to portray it.

Superior Beatslayer
10-08-2005, 03:46 PM
I agree with Slade, Jupiter and Superjoint. B/C matters less when your library ain't all that. In terms of market saturation there are and will be a ton of PS2 games I want to play by the time the PS3 comes out, in particular the rpgs so Superjoint has a very legit point, IMHO and the Xbox has no real rpg depth. So the guy is correct in terms of Xbox games, but that's about it.

meh, PS2 and PS3 can have RPG's, I don't really care for them. The only ones I played this GEN is Fable and KOTOR, while they were good experiences, I could care less if they were on 360, hell I traded both those games in ages ago. RPG's just get boring, walking around, town to town looking for ****, buying ****, talking to people..........reminds me too much of everyday life. PS3, have at it, by all means. Getting on to b/c, yeah so what? the only Xbox game I'll have by the time 360 hits is Halo and Halo 2 so big deal, out with the old, in with the new.

Jupiter_x
10-08-2005, 07:59 PM
Even if you don't use b/c that often, you'd still have the option of trading in your XBox and using the store credits to either take off a chunk of the 360's cost or buy a few games. That means a lot in and of itself. Not having a bunch of wires, controllers and consoles to deal with is nice too. PS3 and Revolution will have b/c. Only after failing at providing true b/c did MS start bashing it as unimportant. That speaks volumes as to how important it is, regardless of how the spin doctors want to portray it.
Today 03:10 PM

I couldn't agree more, PS3 will play all the "Playstation" games, thus eliminating having to keep my PS2 around...heck, I currently have all 3 systems hooked up as it is and it is messy. I have managed to use those plastic ties to groupe most wires together to eliminate mess and it is still messy. I am going for only one system next gen...PS3, I want a max of two systems on my coffee table, most likely Xbox and PS3, when my Xbox games are finished I am boxing it up and I might consider a Rev when the price drops.

I dunno, I guess I am just one who still likes to play previous generation games, as a matter of fact that was my sole reason for buying my beloved PSP last week...Homebrew....w00t! I love playing all those classic Snes, Genesis, NES, TG16...at work, at the inlaws or in church...just kidding!!!

I still have catching up to do...PS3 will do the job!

Superjoint Ritual
10-08-2005, 08:10 PM
Maybe some of you should bother reading what's written. Maybe you should read what we posted. The majority off us agreed with the guy. :rolleyes:

Superior Beatslayer
10-08-2005, 08:45 PM
Maybe you should read what we posted. The majority off us agreed with the guy. :rolleyes:

I hope I'm not going out on a limb or anything, but I think waco was reffering to Jupiter when he said "some of you".