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Gadfly2317
10-01-2005, 06:12 PM
This is really cool news, and its definitely sys wars relevant. Wireless is where things are going. DS and PsP use wi-fi for gaming. Revolution will be wi-fi out of box. So will Ps3 to my understanding. If google pulls off making the entire city of San Francisco a free wi-fi hotspot, other highly populated areas will be next.

If your game system can hop-online without you having to do anything, no wires, no subscription, no cable bill, man that rules. I guess that leaves Xbox 1.5 out though, since it sticks with last gen tech.

I already love hanging out in Golden Gate park getting stoned, playing guitar, reading, and now, hopefully, playing DS and PsP online under a big-assed tree. Google is my God.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20051002/D8CVIHNG0.html

Google Bids to Provide WiFi in San Fran

Oct 1, 8:24 PM (ET)

By MICHAEL LIEDTKE
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - Google Inc. (GOOG) wants to connect all of San Francisco to the Internet with a free wireless service, creating a springboard for the online search engine leader to leap into the telecommunications industry.

The Mountain View, Calif.-based company filed an application late Friday to provide wireless, or "WiFi," service that would enable anyone in San Francisco to connect to the Internet.

Google submitted its 100-page bid in response to a request from Mayor Gavin Newsom, who is looking for a company to finance a free wireless network to lower the financial barriers to Internet access in his city.

More than a dozen other bidders are competing with Google.

If Google is picked for the San Francisco project, it would provide a testing ground for a national WiFi service - something that many industry observers believe the company is pondering as a way to ensure people can connect to its search engine anytime, from just about anywhere.

"It makes sense for Google," said Chris Winfield, who runs a search engine marketing firm, 10e20. "They say their mission is to organize the world's information, so the logical next step is to provide the access to it."

Google spokesman Nate Tyler said Saturday that the company doesn't have any plans to offer a WiFi service outside the San Francisco Bay area.

"Unwiring San Francisco is a way for Google to support our local Bay Area community," Tyler said. "It is also an opportunity to make San Francisco a test-ground for new location-based applications and services that enable people to find relevant information exactly when and where they need it."

Google has been quietly experimenting with WiFi service in a few connection spots around the Bay Area and New York during the past few months. In another sign of its interest in Internet access, Google recently bought an undisclosed stake in a Maryland startup, the Current Communications Group, which is trying to provide high-speed connections through power lines.

If it wants, Google has both the financial clout and the incentive to get into WiFi. What remains unclear is whether the company has the telecommunications expertise to build and maintain a WiFi service.

The company has nearly $7.1 billion in cash, having just raised $4.17 billion in stock offering completed last month. That stock sale prompted several industry analysts to conclude Google might be preparing to build its own high-speed Internet network.

Offering free WiFi service could pay off for Google if the greater access gives the company more opportunities to field search requests and ultimately serve up more advertising - the vehicle that provides virtually all of its profits.

Building its own wireless Internet network connection also would help Google save money by reducing the fees that it pays to the telecommunications middlemen that provide a bridge between the company's data centers and Internet service providers whenever Web surfers make a search request.

Any free Internet access service would threaten to siphon revenue from subscription Internet service providers like SBC Communications Inc. (SBC) and Comcast Corp. (CMCSA) that have invested heavily in high-speed connections that depend on phone lines and cable modems.

A Google WiFi service also could divert traffic from many popular Web sites, including Yahoo, MSN and AOL, if it's set up to automatically make Google's home page the first stopping point.

GameLegend
10-01-2005, 09:58 PM
Unbelieveable!
Giving free internet to those saps at SanFran. Common Toronto!! lol.
Yeah San is the silicon captilal no? Gaming on the DS/PSP at the many hotspots that the city would be whicked. Go for a walk outside, sit just about anywhere and play online. Its every DS/PSP holder's dream, and the lucky saps at San are going to live it.

Ohhh how i envy and hate thee.

Mochan
10-02-2005, 12:14 AM
Even a hobo can surf in San Francisco if that happens!

I don't think Comcast and similar ISPs have to worry that much since there will still be a market for broadband. Unless this free wi-fi is broadband already.

Brendon
10-02-2005, 03:42 AM
You know, I hate you

Here, we only just got an unlimited Broadband plan available in the last two months, and it's so expensive as to be prohibitive to 95% of the population.

Now, you're getting free, roaming internet everywhere, brilliant. We have precisely NO wifi outside of private residences, and those that exist are nowhere near me.

Rant over now. Normal, non-hatey service will recomence in 3,2, 1, ....

Jupiter_x
10-02-2005, 07:52 AM
Yeah, I pay like $50 a month to surf the web and I still cannot use my PSP to hook up to it! :mad:
I hope Hamilton gets wirless too!

GameLegend
10-02-2005, 03:58 PM
Yeah, I pay like $50 a month to surf the web and I still cannot use my PSP to hook up to it! :mad:
I hope Hamilton gets wirless too!

U could always get a wireless router.
I mostly likely m getting a DS after December if I get a GPA of 4 again. I cant complain too much about the San Fran thing, my neighourhood has a lot of free wireless access. My laptop picks up 12 connections 8 of which have NO security. That means it was pointless of me buying my wireless router a year ago.

Darwin
10-03-2005, 06:11 AM
Let's not count our chickens before they are hatched.

My pay-for-use high-speed internet and pay-for-use Xbox Live services still have one advantage: hard-wiring connections. The cable lines are not as suspect to interference during storms (which happen on a daily basis half of the year here in Florida). Also, since not everyone is using this service, it allows for smooth traffic.

Imagine if everyone in Orlando had free, wireless, broadband internet service. I wonder if I'd have a smooth connection to play Live like I currently do?

Mochan
10-03-2005, 06:27 AM
The free wireless will no doubt be suitable only for surfing and other light internet operations. Don't expect it to be of any use for massive downloading or gaming. Well if it was, that would be incredible.

trebor
10-03-2005, 07:38 AM
There is a city south of where I live that has had free wi-fi service for years - run by the city, no less. I forgot the details, but "the man" won a big court settlement and now I believe it's illegal for cities to offer free wi-fi service.

Mochan
10-03-2005, 08:48 AM
What? You mean the city gave out free wi-fi, then "The Man" (who is this? Bill Gates? Comcast's CEO? Who?) won a settlement and they passed a law making it illegal for cities to offer free wifi? WTF that is so f'ed up.

trebor
10-03-2005, 09:36 AM
What? You mean the city gave out free wi-fi, then "The Man" (who is this? Bill Gates? Comcast's CEO? Who?) won a settlement and they passed a law making it illegal for cities to offer free wifi? WTF that is so f'ed up.

Well, the city had been offering the wifi service for several years, but I believe the settlement was a pretty recent thing. "The Man" would be the corporate entities such as comcast, or whoever, who saw $$$ they could and would potentially lose if every city installed such a service.

I need to do some more research cause I'm not sure of the current status of the city's wifi.