So, MS got owned at TGS, did they?

[theWacoKid]

Explain this, ye sony milkdrinkers who claim that Sony's BS, er, PR department is winning the mindshare war.

Xbox 360: poll shows rising interest in Japan

Posted Sep 22, 2005, 2:00 PM ET by James Ransom-Wiley
Related entries: Culture, Xbox 360
According to Famitsu Weekly, TGS provided a big boost for Microsoft, generating a huge Xbox 360 buzz in Japan. Japanese gamers’ interest in purchasing the Xbox 360 nearly quadrupled after TGS, jumping from 6% to 22%. It’s difficult to know if this new figure includes consumers that were previously interested in the PS3 or Revolution, or instead, were simply undecided—the Nikkei poll that first revealed a 6% interest in the Xbox 360 also reported that 21% of those polled were undecided about which next-gen console they expected to buy. In that case, Microsoft may have won over a number of previously undecided consumers by showing off Japanese-favorites like Armored Core, Bomberman, Gundam, Resident Evil, and Ridge Racer on the Xbox 360.


Uh, oh, could it be that real gamers actually prefer to make their decisions after getting their hands on a controller instead of jerking off to sony paid infomercials courtesy of kojima. Who woulda thunk it?

[Gadfly2317]

They still got owned. 6% "interest" . . . I mean, if MS wasn't able to increase from that (which is pratically 0%) that would be shocking. Curious to see how much this "interest" actually translates into sales.

I'm "interested" in the 360. Doesn't mean it'll be the console I purchase first, if ever.

[theWacoKid]

They still got owned. 6% "interest" . . . I mean, if MS wasn't able to increase from that (which is pratically 0%) that would be shocking. Curious to see how much this "interest" actually translates into sales.

I'm "interested" in the 360. Doesn't mean it'll be the console I purchase first, if ever.

They did what they had to, and that is to increase consumer interest in japan. They did it by providing playable games at TGS for gamers to try out. You sound like a bitter disappointed sony fanboy whose knickers are all in a twist because the 360 wasn't the dismal failure you expected. "They still got owned." Yeah, by fricking what, Nintendo's magic wand peripheral

After the smoke has cleared, more and more of the media are becoming increasingly tired of sony's dog and pony act and their pr bs. I've already posted joystiq's comments on the booths. Here's a little blurb from Gameinformer.

"Unfortunately, that’s about all that is new with the PlayStation 3 at this point. Contrary to what Sony has said previously, there was no playable PS3 software at the show. With a supposed launch in the Spring of 2006, many doubt that the system will release at the time – even if it only launches in Japan. With developers slowly getting development kits, and the chatter of development for the system extremely difficult, could holiday 2006 be when the PlayStation 3 launch? "

No, really, won't make even the spring launch in japan due to a lack of dev kits and difficulty in programming, gee, who woulda thunk it? Color me shocked, shocked I tell you.

[slade]

Read about this on GAF. It's fake.

[Gadfly2317]

Read about this on GAF. It's fake.

It's fake? HA!

[slade]

Well, not fake so much as the poll was conducted long before TGS ever took place. In fact, at this point, I'm not even sure whether the results are real.

Lookie here and check out the date:
http://www.gamesradar.com/?pagetypeid=2&articleid=36169&subsectionid=1587

The GAF threads on this issue. I only found two that were crosslinked but they mention it as an issue that has cropped up over and over again. Looks like Waco was taken.

http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=64246
http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=63923&highlight=221

[Gadfly2317]

Well, not fake so much as the poll was conducted long before TGS ever took place. In fact, at this point, I'm not even sure whether the results are real.

Lookie here and check out the date:
http://www.gamesradar.com/?pagetypeid=2&articleid=36169&subsectionid=1587

The GAF threads on this issue. I only found two that were crosslinked but they mention it as an issue that has cropped up over and over again. Looks like Waco was taken.

http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=64246
http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=63923&highlight=221

This appears to be the link Waco got his info from but didn't post:
http://joystiq.com/entry/1234000760059973/

It's funny how the article includes the numbers for Xbox, but not for Ps3 or Rev. As your links pointed out, the 22% for 360 number is from June, unsubstantiated, and shows Nintendo in the lead with 43%, PS3 at 35%, Xbox 360 goes 22%. This flys in the face of everything I've ever seen, which shows 70% of Japanese gamers not just "interested" in the Ps3, but committed to getting one.

What really makes those numbers look extremely stupid is that they add up to 100%, and no real poll does that; there's either an undecided factor, or the # can be higher than 100% because of gamers who purchase more than one console?

[Gadfly2317]

After the smoke has cleared, more and more of the media are becoming increasingly tired of sony's dog and pony act and their pr bs. Who? Show us some links to substantiate this "more and more" claim.

With a supposed launch in the Spring of 2006, many doubt that the system will release at the time even if it only launches in Japan.

So which is it? Don't you see that is a contradictory statement you posted? Show us some coherent and credible media who are "tired of sony" and who make some legitimate criticisms. Also show us something credible to back up your claim that 360 actually impressed any at TGS. Enough with the propaganda and lies.

[Mochan]

Oh, I was almost taken in by Waco until slade showed up. Doh!

[trebor]

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[Zilla Man]

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ROTFLMAO! :p

[theWacoKid]

First off, the article doesn't mention a poll conducted by Famitsu specifically. This is being reported by Famitsu weekly, so before you all crown Slade the king of the molehill, you better wait. Why would joystiq reference some poll from june, which apparenlty is nothing more than an ongoing reader survey by Famitsu. Of course, if you're a dyed in the wool sony fanbot, hey, you'll google your brains out until you find something that jibes with your biased view of the world.

The 6% figure was reported from the following article at gamedailybiz, dated sept.15.

http://biz.gamedaily.com/features.asp?article_id=10571

Importance of Japan
While demand for the next-gen console is likely to be strong in North America and Europe, it's not clear how great the interest will be in Japan. Obviously, the original Xbox has struggled in the land of the rising sun and MS would like to change things with the 360; however, a recent Japanese market survey by Infoplant showed that only 6 percent of console buyers said they planned to purchase the Xbox 360, while more than 70 percent said they wanted to get a PlayStation 3.

Now, I'll wait to see confirmation for the 22%, post TGS.

[T.Tashi]

before you all crown Slade the king of the molehill, you better wait.

Now, I'll wait to see confirmation for the 22%, post TGS.
But you didn't wait to start this thread though huh?:rolleyes:

[slade]

The only thing at question here is joystiq's credibility. They may have known that the story was a fake and yet went through with it anyway albeit craftily. For instance, they mention the 22 percent for MS but don't give any other figures from this poll. On the other hand, the very first GAF thread I linked to links to another site which has this to say:

Revolution Popular in Japan
Famitsu’s latest, post TGS, poll for most awaited next-gen console has thrown up some interesting results. It now appears that the Revolution’s recently unveiled controller has gone down well with Revolution now shooting on top of the poll with 43% of the votes. PlayStation 3 on the other hand is now in second place with a greatly reduced 35% of the vote, and more surprisingly is that 360 is fairing well with a not to shabby 22%.

Other noteworthy news to report is the confirmation of 221 NES, SNES, N64 games planned for download via the Revolution online service.

21 Sep 2005 by Ruari

Now, this site mentions all of the other figures.

I'm maintaining that this story is false.

First off, the article doesn't mention a poll conducted by Famitsu specifically. This is being reported by Famitsu weekly

Weekly Famitsu is Famitsu. There are four versions, Weekly Famitsu, Famitsu X-box, Famitsu PS2 and Famitsu Cube and Advance.

http://www.gamebrink.com/famitsu.php

[Gadfly2317]

Why would joystiq reference some poll from june,

Of course, if you're a dyed in the wool sony fanbot, hey, you'll google your brains out until you find something that jibes with your biased view of the world.

The 6% figure was reported from the following article at gamedailybiz, dated sept.15.

Now, I'll wait to see confirmation for the 22%, post TGS.

Uhm, WHO was googling their brains out looking for info to support their irrational world view? WHY would Joystiq post old phony figures? Same reason you did: eager to get a scoop, and it supported a biased world view. Surely even you can see the "22%" is too big a coincidence to have shown up once before, only to resurface in a mutilated little Joystiq blog post that was "unable" to print the numbers for the other systems.

The blogger credited the scoop to a guy named SiN ViCiOuS. Now, I know Sin ViCiOuS is a highly respected, accurate and ethical guy in the world of gaming news coverage, so you go right ahead Waco, and keep scouring the web for confirmation. The truth is out there somewhere, perhaps at Roswell or Loch Ness.