Football Fans

[Glockstar]

Are you ready?!

I know there's a few football fans here among the VGR regulars... Fivespot, RBH, TPoD... are there any others? ...got any predictions or opinions about the upcoming season? College or Pro.

I don't know about you guys, but I'm getting excited!

Oh, and here's a couple of predictions for ya - just to start things off... just a couple of little ones ;) :

* Super Bowl Champs = Indianapolis Colts

* NCAA Champs = USC (again)

[Rogue Bounty Hunter]

I predict that my SD Chargers will be 16-0!!!!!!!!!!

Colts winning the Super Bowl? It's a possibility, but I have a feeling that New England will not win it again this year. It's one thing to replace players (that's not all that hard), but to replace both the offensive and defensive coordinators, that's tougher than it seems.

Here's my winners:

AFC East- New England
AFC South - Indy
AFC North- Baltimore
AFC West- San Diego

NFC East- Dallas
NFC South- Carolina
NFC North- Detroit
NFC West- I have no idea

College? I predict that Texas beats Oklahoma (finally!), and USC three-peats, along with winning records for all my teams this year.

[The Prince of Darkness]

Are you ready?!

I know there's a few football fans here among the VGR regulars... Fivespot, RBH, TPoD... are there any others? ...got any predictions or opinions about the upcoming season? College or Pro.

I don't know about you guys, but I'm getting excited!

Oh, and here's a couple of predictions for ya - just to start things off... just a couple of little ones ;) :

* Super Bowl Champs = Indianapolis Colts

* NCAA Champs = USC (again)

Well college football sure has become a bore. I am with you guys on USC, but damn. Every year it is USC, Oklahoma, and the Florida teams that are in contention for the championship. Without a playoff to shake things up I am just not that interested anymore.

Pro football, on the other hand, is never dull. Even this year some will say that NE will win again, but I just don't see it. Tedy Bruschi was the heart and soul of that D, so I don't know if they can do it without him. Anyway, here are my picks:

AFC East---Pats
AFC North---Cincy(boy that hurt RBH)
AFC South---Dolts
AFC West---Bolts

Wildcard---Steelers or my beloved Ravens

NFC East---Iggles
NFC North---Pack
NFC South---the Vicks
NFC West---Rams

Wildcard---Seahawks or Carolina

AFC champ---Cincy or the Bolts
NFC champ---Iggles
Superbowl champ---whoever wins the AFC

Oh...and Glock...we will have a gentlemen's bet right now on this. Mark my words that Indy will not win, much less get to, the Superbowl. You know why???? They are too SOFT. Plus, someone will be surprising us in the AFC and will go 14-2 and it will not be the Dolts. That will put the Dolts on the road for the AFC title game, and they will be left out in the cold(no pun intended).

[Fivespot]

Hey all - yes I'm getting excited for some football. Already played a few Madden 06 online games although I haven't yet got the hang of the new vision cone and new button assignments (too used to the old way) :mad:

My favorite team is the Pack and of course I hope they win it all. That seems highly unlikely considering their weak D but I am not about to give up hope this early. As far as I'm concerned they can't get much worse on D compared to last year. Regardless, not many teams can perform better offensively so you never know what might happen.

Now I'll take off my Packer blinders for a moment. OK.

Predictions - Super Bowl winner will be the Colts.

In watching and reading mass football already this year and have seen a few bright spots. Here are a couple teams that will make it far and may even surprise a few people (I'm sick of the same teams making it every year):

Buffalo, San Diego, Atlanta, Seattle, KC, & Detroit (man it pains me to admit that)

Some other football related predictions -

1. The Vikings will choke yet again (they do every year).
2. The Bears QB will get injured (oops - already happened). Being a diehard GB fan I'm supposed to despise the Bears but I kind of feel bad for them. They're becoming the Cubs of football where they can't ever seem to get over the next hurdle or when they seem like they finally are - it all falls apart or a key player gets hurt
3. Jamal Lewis will return to football right where he left off as one of the league's premier backs
4. Randy Moss will pull some immature stunt on or off the field

[Glockstar]

I like the picks, I like the picks.

'Cept yours TPoD. What were you thinking?!

-

I have a feeling that New England will not win it again this year. It's one thing to replace players (that's not all that hard), but to replace both the offensive and defensive coordinators, that's tougher than it seems.

Yeah, especially when you don't replace them. Ole Bill is going to be doing double duty as his own offensive coordinator. Ugh. Now I do recognize him as being one of the best coaches out there today, but I also remember when he sucked. Most notably when was the coach of the Browns. He had no idea how to handle an offense or a quarterback. Ten he's named coach of the Patriots and all of a sudden he's a genius. (?!) Or could it have been his assistant coaches...?

I think the Pats will make the playoffs, by winning their division, but they'll do so only because everybody else in the AFC East will have a losing record. Mark it!

-


Oh...and Glock...we will have a gentlemen's bet right now on this. Mark my words that Indy will not win, much less get to, the Superbowl. You know why???? They are too SOFT. Plus, someone will be surprising us in the AFC and will go 14-2 and it will not be the Dolts. That will put the Dolts on the road for the AFC title game, and they will be left out in the cold(no pun intended).

Bet!

Two words for you, buddy: Peyton. Manning. Ova'! The 2005 MVP. Vince Lombardi Trophy. SuperBowl MVP. This is going to be his year.

Now, to be honest picking the Colts to win the SB... that's a new one, even for me. Oh I've always known that they were going, but my crystal ball wasn't showing me who the winner of the big game was. Mainly because it hasn' t been real clear about what team is going to represent the NFC. I've seen the Eagles... the Vikings... the Redskins... I even saw the Lions... Now if it was the Eagles, then I saw them beating the Colts. But, I don't see them in it anymore. I don't see any of those four teams, actually. So who's playing the Colts in the SB? Read on!

-

In watching and reading mass football already this year and have seen a few bright spots. Here are a couple teams that will make it far and may even surprise a few people (I'm sick of the same teams making it every year): ...Detroit (man it pains me to admit that)

You hate to admit it?! You too eh? Thing is, I live here! :eek:

With regards to the Packers... I'm afraid I only see an 8-8 season ahead. And, ironically, I think Brett is going to miss some games this year. :( It's ironic because this year he's supposed to be in great physical shape. I hope Mike Shermann survives it all tho' - I think he's a good coach. (Tho' I can't stand the way he chomps on his gum; he looks like a friggin' retard.)

-

You guys wanna know how the division races shake out and what the playoffs are going to look like? Well here ya go!:

NFC North
1. Minnesota
2. Detroit <---- you talk about pain, TPoD...
3. Green Bay
4. Chicago

NFC South
1. Atlanta
2. Carolina
3. Tampa Bay
4. New Orleans

NFC East
1. Philadelphia
2. Dallas
3. Washington
4. NY Giants

NFC West
1. Seattle
2. Arizona
3. St. Louis
4. San Francisco

Cowboys, Redskins, and Cardinals are just barely going to miss out on the playoffs.
Seahawks are going to make it only because they're lucky.

.
AFC North
1. Baltimore < ---- TPoD! How could you miss this call?! Cincy?! (And winning the SuperBowl?! HAW!)
2. Cincinnati
3. Pittsburgh
4. Cleveland

AFC South
1. Indianapolis
2. Jacksonville <---- Two more words for you guys: Byron. Leftwich.
3. Houston
4. Tennessee

AFC East
1. New England
2. Miami
3. Buffalo
4. NY Jets

AFC West
1. Oakland
2. Kansas City
3. Denver
4. San Diego < ---- Soory, Hunter. :(

Kansas City just misses the playoffs. And Dick Vermeil retires.
Houston, Denver, and San Diego come next. But big whoop.
Colts finish with NFL-best record of 14-2 (losing only to Ravens (in Game 1) and Jaguars).

-

NFC Playoffs:
* Eagles and Falcons with byes
* Lions win their wild-card game (probably over Seahawks) (and this town becomes unbearable to live in)
* Michael Vick leads his Falcons over all comers on way to the SB!

AFC Playoffs:
* Colts and Ravens with byes
* Patriots bounced in first round
* Colts win rematch with Ravens in Championship Game

SuperBowl:
* Is a doozy!!!

[Cuddly Knife]

I have no predictions since the last couple of years I've really gotten out of football dealings, so I'll just go for my two favorite teams, the Cowboys and the Bengals, and for the Super Bowl, the NFC team.

Go team!!

[The Prince of Darkness]

Predictions - Super Bowl winner will be the Colts.
Ski, I can't believe that you are picking the Dolts too. Here is how I feel about them and the SuperBowl. If they made it to the SuperBowl every year I would pick 'em to win it every year. The problem is getting there with that soft D, and usually, having to play somewhere cold and tough like NE, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, or Cincy for the AFC title game. That is where Peyton chokes every time.


2. The Bears QB will get injured (oops - already happened). Being a diehard GB fan I'm supposed to despise the Bears but I kind of feel bad for them. They're becoming the Cubs of football where they can't ever seem to get over the next hurdle or when they seem like they finally are - it all falls apart or a key player gets hurt

Nah, the Bears have had all kind of success. They have a semi-recent SuperBowl win, and have a legendary D with the same team that is either the best D ever(my Ravens in 2000???) or certainly top three. Those are some props, indeed. The only thing that the Cubbies are known for is futility and Ernie Banks. That's it. No, I think that the Eagles are the team that is establishing themselves as the Cubs of football. Honorable mention goes to the Vikings.



3. Jamal Lewis will return to football right where he left off as one of the league's premier backs


Now you are talking---he has not played yet, but they say he is in the best shape of his life. Now as long as Boller doesn't eff us we will be ok.

[The Prince of Darkness]

'Cept yours TPoD. What were you thinking?

You will see, and you know that I will be the first to remind you when I'm right. I assume that you are talking about that Cincy pick. What can I say---they have a tough D, an up-and-coming O, and a freakin' madman for a coach. What more do you need to win in football?




Two words for you, buddy: Peyton. Manning. Ova'! The 2005 MVP. Vince Lombardi Trophy. SuperBowl MVP. This is going to be his year.

The only way that Peyton will get to the SB is if he gets a home game in the AFC title game...or maybe, and I do mean maybe, if they go to San Diego for it(sorry RBH). Any other scenerio and his candy ass goes home.


* Colts win rematch with Ravens in Championship Game


Not if it is Baltimore.

[Rogue Bounty Hunter]

Yeah, especially when you don't replace them. Ole Bill is going to be doing double duty as his own offensive coordinator. Ugh. Now I do recognize him as being one of the best coaches out there today, but I also remember when he sucked. Most notably when was the coach of the Browns. He had no idea how to handle an offense or a quarterback. Ten he's named coach of the Patriots and all of a sudden he's a genius. (?!) Or could it have been his assistant coaches...?

I think the Pats will make the playoffs, by winning their division, but they'll do so only because everybody else in the AFC East will have a losing record. Mark it!


I think Belicheck is good at getting the best out of his players, and they overachieve like there's no tomorrow. Put most of those players on other teams, and they aren't very good. I can see Billy doing the defense, since he was a coordinator under Parcells, but there's no way he should be doing the offense. The WR coach, QB coach, or someone should have been promoted to offensive coordinator instead.

AFC West
1. Oakland
2. Kansas City
3. Denver
4. San Diego < ---- Soory, Hunter.


Come on, Glock. There's no way SD will be last place. I'll break it down for ya:

Oakland- The offense will be a lot better with Moss and Porter going deep for Collins passes, and HB LaMont Jordan will really make a difference in their running game. I predict 1,000yds for Jordan. Now, the defense will struggle again. They lost a starting LB and CB, and I have no idea if they tried to replace them. Even if they did, their D sucks. I see the Raiders fighting for a wildcard.

KC- Offense will be just as good, even better if HB Holmes plays 14-16 games. Defense will be better, but not an elite defense. They could challenge SD for AFC-W champs.

Denver- This will be Shannahan's last season, because he will get fired. This team sucks, plain and simple. Last place indeed.

[Glockstar]

Ski, I can't believe that you are picking the Dolts too. Here is how I feel about them and the SuperBowl. If they made it to the SuperBowl every year I would pick 'em to win it every year. The problem is getting there with that soft D, and usually, having to play somewhere cold and tough like NE, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, or Cincy for the AFC title game. That is where Peyton chokes every time.

The only way that Peyton will get to the SB is if he gets a home game in the AFC title game...or maybe, and I do mean maybe, if they go to San Diego for it(sorry RBH). Any other scenerio and his candy ass goes home.

Not if it is [in] Baltimore.

First of all, do not underestimate the Colts defense this year. Hear me now, believe me later.

Second of all, they will be playing the AFC Title Game in Indy; Indy is going to have the best record in football - by a couple of games even - and thus they will have homefield advantage throughout. The season is going to be a breeze for them; they are going to totally dominate.

-

Come on, Glock. There's no way SD will be last place.

Hey what's with you and the Chargers anyway? Don't you live in Carolina?
(I'm not knocking you - heck, I've (pretty much) always lived in Detroit all my life but my favorite team has always been the Packers (I've never even been to Green Bay.)

Sorry dude. I know expectations are high after last season, but... well, that's it right there: that was last season.

You know I love Drew Brees, but he is not going to have a year like that again. Not this year anyway. And the defense won't be as good either. Bottom line: they're not going to be catching anybody off guard this year. And btw, have you seen their schedule?(!)

[Glockstar]

Hey, do any of you guys get into Fantasy Football?

*hint hint* ;)

[The Prince of Darkness]

First of all, do not underestimate the Colts defense this year.

It seems like I have heard this somewhere before. Hmmm where was it???? That's right now I remember. It was the majority of the major football publications...before LAST YEAR'S season. Everyone said that there was no way that a Dungy D could be soft because of his track record with the Bucs, and you know what? Their D put up good numbers in the regular season(since they put so many points on the board teams were buried early and had to put the ball in the air more than they would normally), but showed its true colors in the playoffs. Bottom line---it seems like for the last three years or so like 75% of the people that you talk to out there think that it is Indy's year, and you know what the other 25% say don't you? Philly. What do those teams have in common. Both are soft teams that have a few superstars on offense running the team.


Second of all, they will be playing the AFC Title Game in Indy; Indy is going to have the best record in football - by a couple of games even - and thus they will have homefield advantage throughout. The season is going to be a breeze for them; they are going to totally dominate.

If you are right, and you may well be, then they will not need a D. All that will matter is the 42 points that they will put up on that carpet in Indy in the AFC title game. Actually, where is the SB this year?

[Fivespot]

Hey, do any of you guys get into Fantasy Football?

*hint hint* ;)

Some friends of mine convinced me to play this year for the first time ever. I'm really looking forward to it as I've always wanted to join a league.

Preparing for the draft is a lot more time consuming than I bargained for but I suppose that is the most difficult part of the whole thing.

Maybe we could create a thread to exchange Fantasy Football tips? That would be most helpful since its my first year and all.

By the way, anyone in VGR land play online football???? I play Madden 06 on the PS2 (sorry XBOX only crowd). I would prefer to play on the box but my cousin only owns a PS2 and he is my primary football gaming partner.

Anyone also play 06 on the PS2 and up for a game? I may pick it up for the XBOX as well but are trying not to at this point since I'll also be getting the 360 version later in the year. Its bad enough buying the same game for two systems but for three - that makes me feel a little spoiled and foolish :)

[Fivespot]

Ski, I can't believe that you are picking the Dolts too. Here is how I feel about them and the SuperBowl. If they made it to the SuperBowl every year I would pick 'em to win it every year. The problem is getting there with that soft D, and usually, having to play somewhere cold and tough like NE, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, or Cincy for the AFC title game. That is where Peyton chokes every time.

I see it like this - They certainly have one of the best offenses in the league including a fantastic quarterback and receivers. If I had to pick one quarterback that is on par with Farve, Manning would be my man.

Furthermore, they are a Dungee coached team and he has a proven successful record of great defenses. Speaking of Dungee, don't you kind of feel like Gruden won in TB with Dungee's team? He may be a better coach but the fact of the matter is that Dungee put together a Super Bowl caliber team in TB and was ousted one-year too short to enjoy the fruits of his labor. Gruden sure hasn't done a whole lot since.

Nah, the Bears have had all kind of success. They have a semi-recent SuperBowl win, and have a legendary D with the same team that is either the best D ever(my Ravens in 2000???) or certainly top three. Those are some props, indeed. The only thing that the Cubbies are known for is futility and Ernie Banks. That's it. No, I think that the Eagles are the team that is establishing themselves as the Cubs of football. Honorable mention goes to the Vikings.

OK - but you have to go back to 1985 or 1986 for that great Bears team and thats 20 years ago (damn I feel old sometimes). The Milwaukee Brewers were in the World Series in 1982 but I wouldn't consider them a team deserving of any props since they haven't been able to do squat ever since.

I agree with your HM to the Vikings. They are a little different however due to some stellar regular seasons but just can't seem to get any further along. Being a GB fan - I love watching them choke year in and year out. Got to give them some credit however because they always seem to be in the chase right down to the end.

I'll never forget 2 years ago when the Pack won the NFC North after winning their final game and the Vikings losing the last game to the then worst team in football; Cardinals. It took a fluke but the same old choke re-appeared. And it happened in dramatic fashion on a last second TD by Arizona - CLASSIC.

You can't count them out but you can't count them in. How horrible it must feel to be a Vikings fan. My company has an office in MN and those people get real bitter when we start talking GB vs. Minnesota football every year. I wonder why they don't like talking about it :D

[Glockstar]

It seems like I have heard this somewhere before. Hmmm where was it???? That's right now I remember. It was the majority of the major football publications...before LAST YEAR'S season. Everyone said that there was no way that a Dungy D could be soft because of his track record with the Bucs, and you know what? Their D put up good numbers in the regular season(since they put so many points on the board teams were buried early and had to put the ball in the air more than they would normally), but showed its true colors in the playoffs. Bottom line---it seems like for the last three years or so like 75% of the people that you talk to out there think that it is Indy's year, and you know what the other 25% say don't you? Philly. What do those teams have in common. Both are soft teams that have a few superstars on offense running the team.

You are killing me.

-
Actually, where is the SB this year?

Hah! You're a regular comedian!

[Glockstar]

Some friends of mine convinced me to play this year for the first time ever. I'm really looking forward to it as I've always wanted to join a league.

Preparing for the draft is a lot more time consuming than I bargained for but I suppose that is the most difficult part of the whole thing.

Maybe we could create a thread to exchange Fantasy Football tips? That would be most helpful since its my first year and all.

My advice to you - and to all beginners - is to invest in a good Fantasy Football mag, and follow their mock draft. And follow it as closely as you can. Follow it to the letter even, if you can. (Just be wary of injuries and suspensions and bye-weeks.)

Seriously. It seems like every draft there's somebody who can't make it. So most often what we end up doing for them - and usually at their request - is simply follow the list. And at drafts' end, it seems like the person who wasn't there always ends up with one of the best teams. It's pretty aggravating really.

It's not that I don't want to help you, but I'd rather get up a FFL of our own. ;)
Or [i]something where we could have a little comp.

What say you, Your Peachness? Hunter?
And anybody else out there in VGR-Land...?

-

By the way, anyone in VGR land play online football????

Sorry dude.

I don't know why but I've never been able to get into the football sims. I think it's because of the complexity of the controls - there's a lot to learn and remember - every button does, like, three things(!)... and, well, I kind of like my games simple.

If only they had a Tecmo Bowl or a Cyberball game online...! :D

[Rogue Bounty Hunter]

Hey what's with you and the Chargers anyway? Don't you live in Carolina?
(I'm not knocking you - heck, I've (pretty much) always lived in Detroit all my life but my favorite team has always been the Packers (I've never even been to Green Bay.)

Sorry dude. I know expectations are high after last season, but... well, that's it right there: that was last season.

You know I love Drew Brees, but he is not going to have a year like that again. Not this year anyway. And the defense won't be as good either. Bottom line: they're not going to be catching anybody off guard this year. And btw, have you seen their schedule?(!)

Actually, I haven't checked out their schedule yet (I've been lazy). From looking at the AFC West, though, I have a feeling the Chiefs are the only team that will give us a serious run for the title.

Yeah, I live in Carolina. Don't tell me that I have to automatically change my alliegance to the Panthers, do I? :)

Funny thing, I became a Chargers fan (back in '90 or '91) the same way I became a Texas A&M, Colorado, N. Illinois, and Washington Huskie fan...because I liked the jerseys and wanted to get one from Eastbay. I had no idea they existed until I saw a highlight of HB Marion Butts running around back in '91 (I think).

I think the pressure will be on Brees yet again, and he will step up once again. He's signed to a 1-year contract, and if he shines, then I'm sure we may sign him to a long term and trade QB Phillip Rivers :( If Brees doesn't play well, he'll be a back up again.


I see the Vikings and Colts have been talked about, so I'll throw in my 2 cents:

Indy- Offense is the same as always, but if the young'ins they drafted make an early impact, I see the Colts D being better than last years (though that wouldn't be hard to do). Now, will they win it all? It all depends on the D.

Vikings- I actually see this team being a lot better than last years. Yeah, they lost Moss, but on paper, they were able to fill a lot of needs on D with Moss' salary. If the WRs can become consistent and compliment Burleson, and if someone would please step up and be the #1 running back, then they have as good of a shot in the NFC as Philly and Carolina.


Super Bowl will be in Detroit. Glockstar should be able to get some seats and watch the Chargers play someone from the NFC. :D

It's not that I don't want to help you, but I'd rather get up a FFL of our own.
Or something where we could have a little comp.

What say you, Your Peachness? Hunter?
And anybody else out there in VGR-Land...?

Gotta be honest, I have lost interest in Fantasy Football. I think it's because Madden/NCAA/NFL 2k have been my substitution for FF. I tried it once, but it appeared it would take a lot of time to keep up with everything, so I just stopped.

[Glockstar]

Super Bowl will be in Detroit. Glockstar should be able to get some seats and watch the Chargers play someone from the NFC.

Well... there's a better chance of the Lions making it than the Chargers... :p

-

Gotta be honest, I have lost interest in Fantasy Football. I think it's because Madden/NCAA/NFL 2k have been my substitution for FF. I tried it once, but it appeared it would take a lot of time to keep up with everything, so I just stopped.

Aw man.

Dang. :(

[DrunkenThumbmaster]

Well most of you are talking about Pro I'm a go the college Route. This year I'm picking VT to win the ACC and suprise everyone and beat USC. If Marcus Vick (yeah Mikes's lil brother) can stay out of trouble and play to his potential this will be the best offense in the nation.

There D is tight too they have a all american Corner and defensive end and the other end Nolan Burchette is my cousin. They have a decent schedule this year but I expect it to be a down year for the ACC So if Tech takes the ACC I see them in the National Title game. IF they put some pressure on USC's Quaterback (forget his name) I think Tech can take them.

As for the Pro's T.O. maybe a 100% pure Jerk but after last night's preseason game you've got to love the guy.

Let's go Redskins come on Gibbs get Ramsey out of there and start Brunell.

[Rogue Bounty Hunter]

Well... there's a better chance of the Lions making it than the Chargers... :p

I'm still mad at Detroit for taking Mike Williams, right before SD's pick came up. Det didn't need another WR as long as Rogers stays healthy.

The Lions season depends on the QB. Harrington has a make or break year for him, but at least Jeff Garcia is good enough to make plays and get the team in the playoffs if he needs to.

Well most of you are talking about Pro I'm a go the college Route. This year I'm picking VT to win the ACC and suprise everyone and beat USC. If Marcus Vick (yeah Mikes's lil brother) can stay out of trouble and play to his potential this will be the best offense in the nation.

There D is tight too they have a all american Corner and defensive end and the other end Nolan Burchette is my cousin. They have a decent schedule this year but I expect it to be a down year for the ACC So if Tech takes the ACC I see them in the National Title game. IF they put some pressure on USC's Quaterback (forget his name) I think Tech can take them.

As for the Pro's T.O. maybe a 100% pure Jerk but after last night's preseason game you've got to love the guy.

Let's go Redskins come on Gibbs get Ramsey out of there and start Brunell.

For the ACC, I do predict that VT will be playing the championship game vs.....I'm not sure. I wouldn't be surprised if the repeat, and they should be able to beat Miami again. The game VT needs to look out for is against my Wolfpack of NC State. Defense is one of the best in the nation, and if the QB can have a solid game, I see another VT loss.

Also, I hope Marcus Vick shows more passing ability than Mike has.

As far as the Redskins, Brunell played better than Ramsey in the game I checked out vs the Panthers. I do see Campbell taking over next year at the latest, so it would make sense if the veteran Brunell was playing for right now.

[The Prince of Darkness]

Is everyone standing pat on their predictions after week one? Well I for one am not. First, there is no way in hell that my Ravens are going to the playoffs. Yup that's right---it will be more of the same. Their D keeping them in games, and then giving up a big play that will seal it for them because the O is just miserable. The funny thing is that I don't even think that the QB position is their biggest worry---it is the Offensive Line. They have no clue how to pass block.

I think that I was wrong about the Steelers too. Holy cow---that was the best performance of the week hands down.

Oh and Glock, I am still standing pat on my Indy prediction. Even though they manhandled the Ravens I think that it was more of the case that the Ravens are not any good rather than a case of Indy being unstoppable. I still think that a cold weather team gets 'em in the end.

[Aku]

I predict the Niners will win more games than last year. The rest is a crapshoot. ;)

[Glockstar]

Hey! I'm glad you guys revived this post. Although I was just about to myself.

First off, yes, I have to revise my predictions. A little bit. It would appear that the Colts are now going to win 15 games - not 14.

Yeah, I was a little surprised and dissapointed that your Ravens didn't come thru, Bemore. But you're taking it a little too hard, methinks. I told you: the Colts are all that. And besides, look at the bright side: Kyle Boller got hurt. He sucks. The sooner they get Anthony Wright back in there the sooner they can recommence to winning.

Don't you worry, your Ravens won't go 0-2; they'll beat Tennessee Sunday. And look for Derrick Mason to have a HUGE game.

What do y'all think about the Saints this year?

Two Monday Night games... man that's going to be weird.

The fellas from the one Fantasy League I'm in always do a little side action every year, called Survivor. Where, for a $10 entry fee, we pick a (straight-up) winner every week. Lose once and you "go home". It keeps going till there's "only one". The kicker is that from beginning to end, you can't pick a team more than once. Well, eleven men entered week 1, but only four men left. Go Niners! Haw! I took K.C.; I'm movin' on.

This weeks lock: Green Bay.

And because I'm a sharing kind of guy, here are some more picks for ya that you can "take to the bank":
* HOUSTON, CAROLINA, San Diego, and OAKLAND to pull off the upset(s)
* St.Louis and Minnehaha to go 0-2

Don't know about those Saints tho'. They're going to be a wildcard all year; I'm not touching them with a ten-foot pole.

-

You'll have to forgive me for not talking about college anymore: the seasons' already gone down the dumpits.

[The Prince of Darkness]

Hey! I'm glad you guys revived this post. Although I was just about to myself.

First off, yes, I have to revise my predictions. A little bit. It would appear that the Colts are now going to win 15 games - not 14.

Yeah, I was a little surprised and dissapointed that your Ravens didn't come thru, Bemore. But you're taking it a little too hard, methinks. I told you: the Colts are all that. And besides, look at the bright side: Kyle Boller got hurt. He sucks. The sooner they get Anthony Wright back in there the sooner they can recommence to winning.

Don't you worry, your Ravens won't go 0-2; they'll beat Tennessee Sunday. And look for Derrick Mason to have a HUGE game.

What do y'all think about the Saints this year?

Two Monday Night games... man that's going to be weird.

The fellas from the one Fantasy League I'm in always do a little side action every year, called Survivor. Where, for a $10 entry fee, we pick a (straight-up) winner every week. Lose once and you "go home". It keeps going till there's "only one". The kicker is that from beginning to end, you can't pick a team more than once. Well, eleven men entered week 1, but only four men left. Go Niners! Haw! I took K.C.; I'm movin' on.

This weeks lock: Green Bay.

And because I'm a sharing kind of guy, here are some more picks for ya that you can "take to the bank":
* HOUSTON, CAROLINA, San Diego, and OAKLAND to pull off the upset(s)
* St.Louis and Minnehaha to go 0-2

Don't know about those Saints tho'. They're going to be a wildcard all year; I'm not touching them with a ten-foot pole.

-

You'll have to forgive me for not talking about college anymore: the seasons' already gone down the dumpits.

Damn now do you see why I'm worried? If we don't get our stuff together we are gonna be like 4-12 this year. Also, it looks like you are going to have a tough year. You laid an egg except for Carolina and Minnesota. After week two I'm changing another one of my predictions---Green Bay is in a world of trouble just like the Ravens. The difference is that at least they can win a few games in that crappy division that they are in.

Anyway, I hope that you learned your lesson on Pittsburgh. Carolina over Pittsburgh? Are you nutz? Right now they look like the best team in football.

[Glockstar]

Damn now do you see why I'm worried? If we don't get our stuff together we are gonna be like 4-12 this year. Also, it looks like you are going to have a tough year. You laid an egg except for Carolina and Minnesota. After week two I'm changing another one of my predictions---Green Bay is in a world of trouble just like the Ravens. The difference is that at least they can win a few games in that crappy division that they are in.

Anyway, I hope that you learned your lesson on Pittsburgh. Carolina over Pittsburgh? Are you nutz? Right now they look like the best team in football.

I'm telling you, you're fine. You've got a bye week, A.Wright will get up to snuff, and then the Ravens will start kicking azz. The coaches they have on staff... amazing.

You like my lock of the week? :mad:

I don't know what to say, I really don't. Packer Backers stay true to The Team no matter what, but I've got to admit... I... am... worried; this could get ugly.

I guess all of us here are sweating it, huh? You, me, Hunter, Five... What a terrible start to the year.

Well, I guess CK and DT are doing okay tho'.

Not Carolina, Houston. And yeah, I picked 'em. And yeah, I'd do it again. Houston's a good team. Plus, they just match up well against Pitt. Especially the coaches. I guess I did underestimate Big Ben - and overestimated "the sophomore jinx" - this year tho'.

Speaking of jinxes... did you see last nites game? #@$%ing ABC, man. If I were Bill Parcels and/or Jerry Jones I'd sue.

[Fivespot]

Packer Backers stay true to The Team no matter what, but I've got to admit... I... am... worried; this could get ugly.

The Green Bay area is freaking out. I've heard calls for Mike Sherman's head all week on local sports-talk radio and rightfully so. When a team plays without fire or motivation, who else can you blame? Packer backers are a weird bunch - especially here in WI. We certainly can't handle losing!!!!!! That being said however, we have what I believe is the longest active NFL streak w/out a losing season so we need to keep that in perspective.

Like you said however, not many teams are doing much better so maybe 8-8 in the NFC North wins the division (I've seen stranger things happen).

[The Prince of Darkness]

I'm telling you, you're fine. You've got a bye week, A.Wright will get up to snuff, and then the Ravens will start kicking azz. The coaches they have on staff... amazing.

You like my lock of the week? :mad:

I don't know what to say, I really don't. Packer Backers stay true to The Team no matter what, but I've got to admit... I... am... worried; this could get ugly.

I guess all of us here are sweating it, huh? You, me, Hunter, Five... What a terrible start to the year.

Well, I guess CK and DT are doing okay tho'.

Not Carolina, Houston. And yeah, I picked 'em. And yeah, I'd do it again. Houston's a good team. Plus, they just match up well against Pitt. Especially the coaches. I guess I did underestimate Big Ben - and overestimated "the sophomore jinx" - this year tho'.

Speaking of jinxes... did you see last nites game? #@$%ing ABC, man. If I were Bill Parcels and/or Jerry Jones I'd sue.

I'm telling you man I am definately worried...big time. Our biggest problem is both lines. We can't pressure the QB, and we can't protect the QB. That is huge no matter who is back there. Then there is our other big problem that is not going away...Pittsburgh and Cincy. They have looked like, arguably, the two best teams in the AFC so far.

Dude, about Pittsburgh/Houston...you are still crazy. Pitt would kill them 9 times out of 10. You are definately underestimating Pittsburgh.

No. I missed Dallas/DC on Monday night. That has to be the crappiest matchup that the league likes to focus on every year. Both teams are boring as hell imo. It sounds like the game was good for 4 minutes and that was it.

[Aku]

What a joke the NFL made the Saints go to New Jersey to play the Giants, then had the audicity to call it a Saints home game. Who are they tyring to fool? Talk about blatant east coast/New York media market bias. There was no reason for the game not to be played somewhere in the southeast. Just another reason to hate Tagliabue and the suits that run NFL, Incorporated.

[The Prince of Darkness]

What a joke the NFL made the Saints go to New Jersey to play the Giants, then had the audicity to call it a Saints home game. Who are they tyring to fool? Talk about blatant east coast/New York media market bias. There was no reason for the game not to be played somewhere in the southeast. Just another reason to hate Tagliabue and the suits that run NFL, Incorporated.

I don't know if that was necessarily the NFL's fault on that one. Imagine how difficult it must be to put together a deal to lease a stadium for one game and especially on such short notice. They probably did the only thing that they could do to keep that game from getting cancelled. I was thinking the same way about it that you are until I heard the news last night about the NE Hornets. They are playing their 35 home games and all possible playoff games in OKLAHOMA CITY. I mean when does the NBA season start? They could not work out a deal by the start of the season to keep them closer to home than that? That just shows you how tough it must be to deal with all the red tape that is involved with leasing a sports venue.

[Rogue Bounty Hunter]

I don't know if that was necessarily the NFL's fault on that one. Imagine how difficult it must be to put together a deal to lease a stadium for one game and especially on such short notice. They probably did the only thing that they could do to keep that game from getting cancelled. I was thinking the same way about it that you are until I heard the news last night about the NE Hornets. They are playing their 35 home games and all possible playoff games in OKLAHOMA CITY. I mean when does the NBA season start? They could not work out a deal by the start of the season to keep them closer to home than that? That just shows you how tough it must be to deal with all the red tape that is involved with leasing a sports venue.

I have a feeling the Hornets were going to move from New Orleans in a few years anyway. Everything that I have read pointed to the Hornets not succeeding in New Orleans (before and after they moved), but I'm not sure if that was because of fan support, new arena, or something else. The owner (NC residents know his as "that bastard") visited Oklahoma City before settling on New Orleans after moving the team from Charlotte, and I wouldn't be surprised if he tries to get the team to stay there if they get a lot of fan support.

As far as the Saints, I think they could have played the game in San Antonio instead of NY. I saw that whole thing as what's best for NFL because of the Telethon in NY, than what's best for the Saints and their fans.

New England will beat Pittsburgh Sunday. I don't see New England being 1-2, and they have revenge on their mind since Pitt beat them last year.

[The Prince of Darkness]

I have a feeling the Hornets were going to move from New Orleans in a few years anyway. Everything that I have read pointed to the Hornets not succeeding in New Orleans (before and after they moved), but I'm not sure if that was because of fan support, new arena, or something else. The owner (NC residents know his as "that bastard") visited Oklahoma City before settling on New Orleans after moving the team from Charlotte, and I wouldn't be surprised if he tries to get the team to stay there if they get a lot of fan support.

As far as the Saints, I think they could have played the game in San Antonio instead of NY. I saw that whole thing as what's best for NFL because of the Telethon in NY, than what's best for the Saints and their fans.

New England will beat Pittsburgh Sunday. I don't see New England being 1-2, and they have revenge on their mind since Pitt beat them last year.

Ah gotcha---so there is some history between Ok. City and the Hornets that I was not aware of. Well I knew there had to be some logical explanation.

As far as the Steelers and Pats---I am going to have to disagree with you. The Steelers really seem to have their stuff together in the early part of the season. I'm picking them until they lose. Plus I think that, at some point, the Pats were going to have some adversity and that time is now.

[Rogue Bounty Hunter]

Ah gotcha---so there is some history between Ok. City and the Hornets that I was not aware of. Well I knew there had to be some logical explanation.

As far as the Steelers and Pats---I am going to have to disagree with you. The Steelers really seem to have their stuff together in the early part of the season. I'm picking them until they lose. Plus I think that, at some point, the Pats were going to have some adversity and that time is now.

It's funny how a lot of writers and guys on the radio were ready to write the Steelers off after their bad preseason, but they forgot......it's just preseason.

If New England does end up losing this game, what would you think of the Pats then? Still a good team that's just losing to equally or better teams, or are they starting to fall off?

[The Prince of Darkness]

Just for kicks I have picked out what I consider to be the 5 best games this week. Let's pick 'em.


Atlanta@Buffalo---I'm going with Buffalo here. The Bill's D plays really tough at home, and the Falcon's O doesn't play as well on the road. 28-17.

Cincy@Chicago---Tough choice here. Both teams coming off lopsided wins, but I think that Cincy gets it done because of Chad Johnson. 17-14.

Carolina@Miami---I think that Miami is going to be better this year than people think, but Carolina is a bonafide SB contender so I'm taking them. 20-7.

J'ville@NY Jets---Another tough one. I mean the Jets are streaky and at home, but the Jags D is tough as balls and I just can't see them going 1-2. I'll take the Jets only because of home field. 14-13

NE@Pittsburgh---Why is this not the Monday night game? The Monday night games sure have sucked for the last few years, and this week's is no different. I mean does anyone in the country besides people in KC and Denver really care about that game? Anyway, Steelers are at home and they are the best team in football. 'Nuff said. 27-17.

[The Prince of Darkness]

It's funny how a lot of writers and guys on the radio were ready to write the Steelers off after their bad preseason, but they forgot......it's just preseason.

If New England does end up losing this game, what would you think of the Pats then? Still a good team that's just losing to equally or better teams, or are they starting to fall off?

Well, I must admit that I was a Steeler detractor before the season. I guess that I thought that last year was an illusion, but I still knew that the potential was there. They have all the pieces---a great D, clutch QB, and 3, count them 3, good RBs. I just don't know how you stop them unless they beat themselves. I will admit, though, that if anyone can put something together it is NE.

Even if NE is 1-2 they are still a playoff team, just a playoff team that will have to win on the road. Face it---if they lose they will have lost to my two early SB picks. That is a tough early schedule.

[Rogue Bounty Hunter]

Just for kicks I have picked out what I consider to be the 5 best games this week. Let's pick 'em.


Atlanta@Buffalo---I'm going with Buffalo here. The Bill's D plays really tough at home, and the Falcon's O doesn't play as well on the road. 28-17.

Cincy@Chicago---Tough choice here. Both teams coming off lopsided wins, but I think that Cincy gets it done because of Chad Johnson. 17-14.

Carolina@Miami---I think that Miami is going to be better this year than people think, but Carolina is a bonafide SB contender so I'm taking them. 20-7.

J'ville@NY Jets---Another tough one. I mean the Jets are streaky and at home, but the Jags D is tough as balls and I just can't see them going 1-2. I'll take the Jets only because of home field. 14-13

NE@Pittsburgh---Why is this not the Monday night game? The Monday night games sure have sucked for the last few years, and this week's is no different. I mean does anyone in the country besides people in KC and Denver really care about that game? Anyway, Steelers are at home and they are the best team in football. 'Nuff said. 27-17.

Good idea. I think we should try and keep this up during the season.

ATL @ Buff - I really do not like the Falcons' offense. When they were down vs Seattle, I had a feeling it was over. Buff has a very young QB, but you're right, PoD, their D is very good. I take the Bills in a low scoring affair, 13-6

Cincy @ Chicago - Bears' offense is unpredictable, while the Bengals' O is high powered. The defense will win this one, and Bears' D is better, though no one can really contain Chad Johnson. I'm going with the upset, Bears 19-17 over a good playoff bound Bengals.

Panthers@ Miami - Miami's O will be shut down vs Carolina's D. Not a high scorer, and the better running team will win. Panthers 17-9.

Jags @ Jets - I like the way Jacksonville's D contained Indy at Indy. That alone makes me pick them, winning 24-14 over the Jets.

NE @ Pitt - I still say NE will win, but not by much. This one should be a MNF game, with the SB champs vs the team with the best record last year. How does ABC lay an egg this big by not putting them on? Luckily, I think whoever has MNF next year will be able to change the Monday games if the teams scheduled to play aren't as good as another Sunday matchup. Got off the subject, but NE wins 24-21.

RBH's Bonus pick: Giants vs SD - Revenge on Eli for shunning the Chargers. SD will bring the kitchen sink when they blitz, and not one Giant WR is a consistent playmaker. Chargers win 24-7.

[Rogue Bounty Hunter]

Well, I must admit that I was a Steeler detractor before the season. I guess that I thought that last year was an illusion, but I still knew that the potential was there. They have all the pieces---a great D, clutch QB, and 3, count them 3, good RBs. I just don't know how you stop them unless they beat themselves. I will admit, though, that if anyone can put something together it is NE.

Even if NE is 1-2 they are still a playoff team, just a playoff team that will have to win on the road. Face it---if they lose they will have lost to my two early SB picks. That is a tough early schedule.

I like Roethlisberger, but I'm not sure how clutch he is. I haven't seen (or don't remember) him having to win a game yet. They do have 3 good RBs, and Parker is probably going to be the starter until he has a couple of bad games. Staley and the Bus are good, but Parker has speed, something The Steeler backs have been missing for a long time.

The Pats do have a hard schedule, and they play the Chargers during the early part of the season. That's another automatic loss for them, but I see them being 10-6 at worse and still winning the AFC East.

[The Prince of Darkness]

I like Roethlisberger, but I'm not sure how clutch he is. I haven't seen (or don't remember) him having to win a game yet. They do have 3 good RBs, and Parker is probably going to be the starter until he has a couple of bad games. Staley and the Bus are good, but Parker has speed, something The Steeler backs have been missing for a long time.

The Pats do have a hard schedule, and they play the Chargers during the early part of the season. That's another automatic loss for them, but I see them being 10-6 at worse and still winning the AFC East.

I guess that maybe clutch was the wrong word. What I mean is that it seems that, during the course of the game, when the Steelers need him to make a play he does. I suppose that makes him "poised" or means that he has the intangibles on his side. Either way it is a trait that eludes many NFL QB's these days.

Did you say that the Pats have an automatic loss against SD? Dude, SD better get on the board before you start the talk about beating the champs. That game against the Giants is not automatic ya know.

[Rogue Bounty Hunter]

I guess that maybe clutch was the wrong word. What I mean is that it seems that, during the course of the game, when the Steelers need him to make a play he does. I suppose that makes him "poised" or means that he has the intangibles on his side. Either way it is a trait that eludes many NFL QB's these days.

Did you say that the Pats have an automatic loss against SD? Dude, SD better get on the board before you start the talk about beating the champs. That game against the Giants is not automatic ya know.

The Pats will lose to San Diego. (Put it in your signature :) ) I won't say the Giants game is automatic, in case I already did, but SD has a good shot against them. If they (we) shut down Tiki Barber, I think we can win this game. I'm not sold on Eli beating a team all by himself yet. I don't think they have great WRs, which plays to SD's advantage since they don't have great CBs. The first two losses were close, and really winnable games, unlike those Vikings (do they miss Moss yet?)

I think over time, Big Ben can be clutch. he's going to have to be able to win some games, and that could come as early as this year.

[Glockstar]

What a joke the NFL made the Saints go to New Jersey to play the Giants, then had the audicity to call it a Saints home game. Who are they tyring to fool? Talk about blatant east coast/New York media market bias. There was no reason for the game not to be played somewhere in the southeast. Just another reason to hate Tagliabue and the suits that run NFL, Incorporated.

I don't know, I think there were reasons... like TPoD said, I'll bet finding a venue on such short notice is harder than we think it is.

And while I too think that it was stupid and unfair for them to play the game in NY, you can't lay all of the blame on Tagliabue. I'm sure the Saints owner - whoever he (or she) is - was in on the decision too.

-

New England will beat Pittsburgh Sunday. I don't see New England being 1-2, and they have revenge on their mind since Pitt beat them last year.

Enh! You've got that backwards, my friend. It is Pitt who has revenge on their mind, not NE. And that is why the Steelers will win. It doesn't matter if you can see the Pats at 1-2 or not... because that is exactly what they will be. There is no bigger factor that is more money-in-the-bank than the revenge factor.

And don't you worry about them being 1-2. Even tho' they're going up against a lot of teams that will have revenge in mind (like the Panthers, like the Steelers, like the Colts) - tho' every team is going to be gunning for them every week - and even tho' they have a b!tch of road schedule - have you seen their out-of-conference road schedule?!... I say, dayum! (...well, they are the champs afterall - they earned it...)... they're still a great team and I think their overall record at seasons end will more or less reflect that.

[Glockstar]

Just for kicks I have picked out what I consider to be the 5 best games this week. Let's pick 'em.


Atlanta@Buffalo---I'm going with Buffalo here. The Bill's D plays really tough at home, and the Falcon's O doesn't play as well on the road. 28-17.

Cincy@Chicago---Tough choice here. Both teams coming off lopsided wins, but I think that Cincy gets it done because of Chad Johnson. 17-14.

Carolina@Miami---I think that Miami is going to be better this year than people think, but Carolina is a bonafide SB contender so I'm taking them. 20-7.

J'ville@NY Jets---Another tough one. I mean the Jets are streaky and at home, but the Jags D is tough as balls and I just can't see them going 1-2. I'll take the Jets only because of home field. 14-13

NE@Pittsburgh---Why is this not the Monday night game? The Monday night games sure have sucked for the last few years, and this week's is no different. I mean does anyone in the country besides people in KC and Denver really care about that game? Anyway, Steelers are at home and they are the best team in football. 'Nuff said. 27-17.


Good idea. I think we should try and keep this up during the season.

ATL @ Buff - I really do not like the Falcons' offense. When they were down vs Seattle, I had a feeling it was over. Buff has a very young QB, but you're right, PoD, their D is very good. I take the Bills in a low scoring affair, 13-6

Cincy @ Chicago - Bears' offense is unpredictable, while the Bengals' O is high powered. The defense will win this one, and Bears' D is better, though no one can really contain Chad Johnson. I'm going with the upset, Bears 19-17 over a good playoff bound Bengals.

Panthers@ Miami - Miami's O will be shut down vs Carolina's D. Not a high scorer, and the better running team will win. Panthers 17-9.

Jags @ Jets - I like the way Jacksonville's D contained Indy at Indy. That alone makes me pick them, winning 24-14 over the Jets.

NE @ Pitt - I still say NE will win, but not by much. This one should be a MNF game, with the SB champs vs the team with the best record last year. How does ABC lay an egg this big by not putting them on? Luckily, I think whoever has MNF next year will be able to change the Monday games if the teams scheduled to play aren't as good as another Sunday matchup. Got off the subject, but NE wins 24-21.

RBH's Bonus pick: Giants vs SD - Revenge on Eli for shunning the Chargers. SD will bring the kitchen sink when they blitz, and not one Giant WR is a consistent playmaker. Chargers win 24-7.

There are a lot of tough games this week.

But there are a lot of easy ones too. This weeks Locks:
Indy over Cleveland, Minnehaha over the Saints, Philly over Oakland, Pittsburgh over New England, Dallas over San Fran, St. Louie over the Titans, and the Chargers over the Giants. All of 'em at home.

I think you pretty much nailed it when you called out the toughies - except you missed the Monday night game. (I think the Chefs are going to win that one.)

Let's see...

Atlanta @ BUFFALO : I'm just not sold on this Losman guy... I think he's the reason the Falcons win it... Plus, I am really impressed with this Falcons team - even in their loss. ATL 20-14*.

* This pick is contingent on Vick playing tho'. Of course. No Vick, no win. In which case, BUF 21-13.

Cincinnati @ CHICAGO : Gotta go with the Bengals - they're hot... They're feelin' it... And besides that, their team is a lot more balanced than the Bears. All everybody talks about right now is Carson Palmer and Chad Johnson, but the Cincy defense is mighty fine too... Too much for Kyle Orton, that's for sure. CIN 24-14.

Carolina @ MIAMI : I think this one is the toughest game to call... I don't think the fish are the better team, but I do think they win this one... don't ask me how. MIA 27-17.

Jacksonville @ NEW YORK JETS : I like this game!... the two ex-Marshall boys (finally) going at it head to head!... Gotta see it! That said, I'm just not high on the Jets this year... and I'm actually quite down on Pennington... I love Leftwich tho', and that's why I'm going with Jax. JAC 24-13.

New England @ PITTSBURGH : R-E-V-E-N-G-E. PIT 24-14.

Glockstar doesn't have a Bonus Pick... but he does have a Bad Feeling about the Green Bay-Tampa Bay game. :(

[Rogue Bounty Hunter]

Glockstar doesn't have a Bonus Pick... but he does have a Bad Feeling about the Green Bay-Tampa Bay game. :(

If that bad feeling includes Tampa Bay winning, then I will have to agree. GB just hasn't looked good so far this year. They didn't look good last year, IMO, but they got in the playoffs. I'm not completely sold on this Buccaneer return to form, but I think they get a rare win in Wisconsin.

If the Packers do not have a good season by the time there's a couple of games left, does anyone think QB Aaron Rogers should get some playing time even though Farve is probably going to retire after this season?

[The Prince of Darkness]

Hell, the only pick that saved me was Cincy. In my defense, though, all 4 of my losses came down to the last few minutes. I was just watching the final results in disbelief, but I guess that is why I chose those games to pick. Two things about those games, though. First, Cincy sure looks like the real deal so far. Hell, if I had to put together some power rankings I would give them number 1 by default. I mean Indy is 3-0, but have not been as impressive, Pitt and NE each have a loss, and I am certainly not sold on Tampa.

Now...what about that Pittsburgh/NE game? Are you guys with me that Pittsburgh totally blew that one? That lateral attempt was one of the most boneheaded plays that I have seen in a long time, and it probably cost them that game. I mean you are on the 10 with the best running game in footaball, so why do that. Then, correct me if I'm wrong, didn't Ben throw an interception on their next possession? That is usually how stupid crap like that goes. It was really looking, for the majority of that first half, that it was going to be a blow out.

I know we have been all about the pros, but let's resurrect college for one second. What about Louisville? I thought that they were on a crash course with a BCS Bowl. That was unreal. Btw---so were some of those Big Ten games---go Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Penn State!!! Finally, who was the most impressive team of the week? Not USC, but Virginia Tech.

[Rogue Bounty Hunter]

Hell, the only pick that saved me was Cincy. In my defense, though, all 4 of my losses came down to the last few minutes. I was just watching the final results in disbelief, but I guess that is why I chose those games to pick. Two things about those games, though. First, Cincy sure looks like the real deal so far. Hell, if I had to put together some power rankings I would give them number 1 by default. I mean Indy is 3-0, but have not been as impressive, Pitt and NE each have a loss, and I am certainly not sold on Tampa.

Now...what about that Pittsburgh/NE game? Are you guys with me that Pittsburgh totally blew that one? That lateral attempt was one of the most boneheaded plays that I have seen in a long time, and it probably cost them that game. I mean you are on the 10 with the best running game in footaball, so why do that. Then, correct me if I'm wrong, didn't Ben throw an interception on their next possession? That is usually how stupid crap like that goes. It was really looking, for the majority of that first half, that it was going to be a blow out.

I know we have been all about the pros, but let's resurrect college for one second. What about Louisville? I thought that they were on a crash course with a BCS Bowl. That was unreal. Btw---so were some of those Big Ten games---go Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Penn State!!! Finally, who was the most impressive team of the week? Not USC, but Virginia Tech.

I went 2-3, but got the all important bonus/personal pick. Man, by the stats, Eli torched SD's cornerbacks, but Tomlinson got on track with almost 200yds rushing. Whoooo Hoooo!!!!!!!!!!!!

Indy is scary. They are winning without scoring a lot of points, which means their D looks to be finally playing well enough to help in the long run. I didn't see the lateral, but I read that Randle-El should have just held onto the ball instead of trying to do too much. Did Willie Parker have a good game for Pitt? I remember him at UNC, and he wouldn't hit the hole hard at all. Kyle Orton played poor for the Bears (5 INT), and I believe Chad Johnson did the "river dance" in the end zone.

I felt that writers and tv people were thinking that Louisville were going to walk all over the Big East, so it was pretty funny that they got beat by a team I didn't know existed until this year (USF). VT was definitely an impressive team, but I guess I was impressed more that Marcus Vick actually tries to stay in the pocket and throw.

[The Prince of Darkness]

I went 2-3, but got the all important bonus/personal pick. Man, by the stats, Eli torched SD's cornerbacks, but Tomlinson got on track with almost 200yds rushing. Whoooo Hoooo!!!!!!!!!!!!

Indy is scary. They are winning without scoring a lot of points, which means their D looks to be finally playing well enough to help in the long run. I didn't see the lateral, but I read that Randle-El should have just held onto the ball instead of trying to do too much. Did Willie Parker have a good game for Pitt? I remember him at UNC, and he wouldn't hit the hole hard at all. Kyle Orton played poor for the Bears (5 INT), and I believe Chad Johnson did the "river dance" in the end zone.

I felt that writers and tv people were thinking that Louisville were going to walk all over the Big East, so it was pretty funny that they got beat by a team I didn't know existed until this year (USF). VT was definitely an impressive team, but I guess I was impressed more that Marcus Vick actually tries to stay in the pocket and throw.

Dude I can't believe you missed that lateral play. The Steelers were up 10-7, and that cost them a TD. Even after that crap the Steelers got a stop, and were driving into NE territory again when Ben threw a killer interception. I mean the Steelers had 4 really nice drives which should have all been scoring drives and all they got was 10 points. Hopefully for the Steelers they came away fromthat game thinking that they were the better team instead of letting it get into their head. As far as Parker---he and Staley both had ok games---nothing spectacular.

You are right about Indy. Either they are going to start putting up huge numbers, or teams have finally figured out how to defend them. We shall see which one it is. I will say this much though. I am still not sold on their D just yet for 2 reasons. First, this is just what they did last year. Remember their D leading the league in many of the stats for most of the year...until the going got tough. Second, look at who they have played so far. The Ravens and the Browns are flat-out anemic on offense, and the Jags are so-so. Again I'm taking the wait and see approach.

[Rogue Bounty Hunter]

Dude I can't believe you missed that lateral play. The Steelers were up 10-7, and that cost them a TD. Even after that crap the Steelers got a stop, and were driving into NE territory again when Ben threw a killer interception. I mean the Steelers had 4 really nice drives which should have all been scoring drives and all they got was 10 points. Hopefully for the Steelers they came away fromthat game thinking that they were the better team instead of letting it get into their head. As far as Parker---he and Staley both had ok games---nothing spectacular.

You are right about Indy. Either they are going to start putting up huge numbers, or teams have finally figured out how to defend them. We shall see which one it is. I will say this much though. I am still not sold on their D just yet for 2 reasons. First, this is just what they did last year. Remember their D leading the league in many of the stats for most of the year...until the going got tough. Second, look at who they have played so far. The Ravens and the Browns are flat-out anemic on offense, and the Jags are so-so. Again I'm taking the wait and see approach.

You're right about Indy's D. I forgot who they played so far. Baltimore will make anyone's D look good. I just can't see why Billick's O is no good. He came from Minnesota as a so called offensive guru, but so far....nothing but D. I'm thinking that offensive gurus are overrated. Whoever is running Jacksonville's O should get fired. They have everything to be a high scoring team, but something's not clicking. They have the QB, RB, WRs (including Matt Jones), but they just aren't getting it done.

I'm not sure if I missed the lateral because of the Philly/Oakland game running long, or the fact that I just turned the channel. Big Ben showed me a little bit yesterday when he was leading his team down the field for the tie. In a year or maybe less, I think he will be able to consistently win games for Pitt.

[The Prince of Darkness]

You're right about Indy's D. I forgot who they played so far. Baltimore will make anyone's D look good. I just can't see why Billick's O is no good. He came from Minnesota as a so called offensive guru, but so far....nothing but D. I'm thinking that offensive gurus are overrated. Whoever is running Jacksonville's O should get fired. They have everything to be a high scoring team, but something's not clicking. They have the QB, RB, WRs (including Matt Jones), but they just aren't getting it done.

I'm not sure if I missed the lateral because of the Philly/Oakland game running long, or the fact that I just turned the channel. Big Ben showed me a little bit yesterday when he was leading his team down the field for the tie. In a year or maybe less, I think he will be able to consistently win games for Pitt.

Yeah, people are really starting to want Billick's head around here lately. There is a lot of talk about just how many years of job security a Super Bowl buys you. The funny part is that I don't even think that Billick had much to do with that SB. That SB was all about Ray, Jamal, and Ozzie Newsome. I don't think it mattered who was coaching that team. Tough ass D forcing turnovers(and scoring many times on those turnovers), hand off to Jamal and run clock, rinse and repeat.

Big Ben showed me something too...his toughness. He took some monster shots in that second half. I think that it affected many of his throws in that second half, but he was still able to pull it together for the game-tying drive.

Hey I want to change the subject on you for a second. How do you think the American League is going to go? The Yankees and Cleveland sure made things interesting didn't they? It appears that one of them, or maybe even the Redsox, are going home. I think that yesterday's games pretty much sealed it for the White Sox, though. Too bad because the White Sox are playing the worst of the bunch, but that lead was just too big to blow.

[Rogue Bounty Hunter]

Yeah, people are really starting to want Billick's head around here lately. There is a lot of talk about just how many years of job security a Super Bowl buys you. The funny part is that I don't even think that Billick had much to do with that SB. That SB was all about Ray, Jamal, and Ozzie Newsome. I don't think it mattered who was coaching that team. Tough ass D forcing turnovers(and scoring many times on those turnovers), hand off to Jamal and run clock, rinse and repeat.

Big Ben showed me something too...his toughness. He took some monster shots in that second half. I think that it affected many of his throws in that second half, but he was still able to pull it together for the game-tying drive.

Hey I want to change the subject on you for a second. How do you think the American League is going to go? The Yankees and Cleveland sure made things interesting didn't they? It appears that one of them, or maybe even the Redsox, are going home. I think that yesterday's games pretty much sealed it for the White Sox, though. Too bad because the White Sox are playing the worst of the bunch, but that lead was just too big to blow.

Is Ozzie still in Baltimore? As bad asI remember Trent Dilfer being talked about in Baltimore, he would do wonders if he was under center with them this year. He's not the best, but he's better than Boller and Wright put together. All of those weapons, and they can't get a good QB to get them the ball. That's a shame.

I really want to see the Chi-Sox blow the lead entirely. I don't like Cleveland that much (they have whipped my Twins) but they are so hot right now, I bet no one will want to play against them in the first round of the playoffs. The Yankees are impressive as well, considering they still don't have a decent 5 to start for them during a week. I honestly want to see NY, Boston (wildcard), Cleveland, and Anaheim in the playoffs. I also hope the Yankees have the best AL record so they have to play Boston in the first round. It won't do good for ratings to play this early, but I want to see Cleveland or Anaheim have a good shot at the World Series, without having to beat both Boston and NY in the post season. That would be brutal.

Maybe next year for the O's and Twins. O's need pitching, Twins need power. I'm a little disappointed that the Twinkies didn't go after Cincinnati Reds' OF Adam Dunn before the trading deadline. He's the power we need, but I bet Cincy's asking price was too high.

[The Prince of Darkness]

Is Ozzie still in Baltimore? As bad asI remember Trent Dilfer being talked about in Baltimore, he would do wonders if he was under center with them this year. He's not the best, but he's better than Boller and Wright put together. All of those weapons, and they can't get a good QB to get them the ball. That's a shame.

I really want to see the Chi-Sox blow the lead entirely. I don't like Cleveland that much (they have whipped my Twins) but they are so hot right now, I bet no one will want to play against them in the first round of the playoffs. The Yankees are impressive as well, considering they still don't have a decent 5 to start for them during a week. I honestly want to see NY, Boston (wildcard), Cleveland, and Anaheim in the playoffs. I also hope the Yankees have the best AL record so they have to play Boston in the first round. It won't do good for ratings to play this early, but I want to see Cleveland or Anaheim have a good shot at the World Series, without having to beat both Boston and NY in the post season. That would be brutal.

Maybe next year for the O's and Twins. O's need pitching, Twins need power. I'm a little disappointed that the Twinkies didn't go after Cincinnati Reds' OF Adam Dunn before the trading deadline. He's the power we need, but I bet Cincy's asking price was too high.

I don't think even Dilfer would save us this year. He was the perfect QB for that team because he was only asked to do one simple thing---not make mistakes. He was never asked to make plays. This year's team does not have as good of a D and does not have a good enough O Line to just pound the ball every down. The QB has to make some plays for us to succeed.

Well after last night's games the ChiSox are only up 2 games with 6 to play, so I guess that stranger things have happened. Meanwhile Cleveland, Boston, and NY are all tied in the loss column. One really good team is going home while SD gets to go to the playoffs. Not good. Anyway, I want to see Boston, Cleveland, and the ChiSox because I could never pull for the Yankees under any circumstances. It will be a barnburner no matter what, though.

As far as the O's go---they need a whole lot more than pitching. Face it---the hitters didn't do squat after the break either. They need pitching, clutch hitting, and above all, a new GM and Manager to instill a winning attitude again. That collapse was just ridiculous. Our record since the break was the third worst in baseball. The funny parts is that people fail to mention that the collapse really began after like the first quarter of the season. I would bet that our record after the first quarter is the worst in baseball.

[Rogue Bounty Hunter]

I don't think even Dilfer would save us this year. He was the perfect QB for that team because he was only asked to do one simple thing---not make mistakes. He was never asked to make plays. This year's team does not have as good of a D and does not have a good enough O Line to just pound the ball every down. The QB has to make some plays for us to succeed.

Well after last night's games the ChiSox are only up 2 games with 6 to play, so I guess that stranger things have happened. Meanwhile Cleveland, Boston, and NY are all tied in the loss column. One really good team is going home while SD gets to go to the playoffs. Not good. Anyway, I want to see Boston, Cleveland, and the ChiSox because I could never pull for the Yankees under any circumstances. It will be a barnburner no matter what, though.

As far as the O's go---they need a whole lot more than pitching. Face it---the hitters didn't do squat after the break either. They need pitching, clutch hitting, and above all, a new GM and Manager to instill a winning attitude again. That collapse was just ridiculous. Our record since the break was the third worst in baseball. The funny parts is that people fail to mention that the collapse really began after like the first quarter of the season. I would bet that our record after the first quarter is the worst in baseball.

If QB Boller doesn't perform when he gets back from injury, I expect the Ravens to look for another starter. I doubt they will want to get another drafted rookie, unless they have a good shot at Leinart or maybe even Jacobs at Bowling Green. I have a feeling that Drew Brees will be on the market after this year, so I expect Miami or Baltimore to go after him.

Cleveland plays Chicago and NY plays Boston during the weekend, so if the Indians and Yankees have a shot, they will need to do it playing head to head. I think Cleveland will pull it out. I can't name more than 2 or 3 people on that team (one is a local product), but they are doing something up there. I'm so sick of the Boston area winning championships (and I really am not a fan of Manny), so I would like to see the Yankees get back in the playoffs, just so that Steinbrenner will get off Torre's back.

Do you think the O's should start a serious youth movement and get rid of all their aging vets (except Tejada)?

[Glockstar]

I did pretty good, didn't I? Huh fellas? :D

You guys wouldn't know this, but I did even better than that. In our office pool - where we pick the winners of every game (straight up) - I only got one wrong. One!

You know which one.

Unbelievable, that game. That's as big a shock to me as Green Bay losing to the lowly Brownies at home... on Reggie White Day. Well, it looks like the Steelers are yet another team that just can't get around New England. The list keeps growing and growing... The Patriots are all that. Their players aren't just talented, they're also disciplined and they have a real desire to win. They listen to their coaches. And their coaches know football. They seem to know it inside out and every which way. Total pros. And most of all, it's as Joe Theismann said, 'They're just willing to play harder longer'. And, of course, they have Tom Brady.

But for three quarters, the Steelers looked like the better team. I don't know how they lost it. Except maybe the Patriots just wore them down - wore them out - both mentally and physically... but especially mentally. I know they didn't lose because of "the lateral" though.

I was at the bar watching it and right after everybody picked their jaws up off the floor they started yelling at El and cursing him. But I argued that it wasn't his fault... it was Hines Ward's. Stop. I feel I have to interrupt myself and tell you what I think of Hines Ward: he's my favorite player in all the NFL. But it looked to me like he called for it. And what's more, it hit him square in the hands! Randle El tossed it right to him. Yes it was dumb that the Steelers came away with nothing on that drive, but I still don't think it was that bad a play. They were being aggressive, they were going after the Pats with everything they had.

Anways, moving on, we're three weeks in now... what are your feelings? Any new thoughts? What do your personal Power Rankings look like?

Here's mine:

1. Patriots - For right now... We'll see where they are after next couple of weeks tho'... the injuries and coaching changes have got to start taking a toll sometime...
2. Colts - It's just scary to think of what they'll be like when the offense gets going.
3. Falcons - Interesting matchup coming Sunday.
4. Eagles - Donovan McNabb is a lot like Peyton Manning - they both start out slow... scary! I was dissapointed with their defensive effort this past Sunday tho'...
5. Steelers - This Ben guy, I tell ya...
6. Jaguars - Tough, tough, team
7. Bengals - 3-0 for this team = meh. Yeah, I said it. When do they actually play somebody?
8. Buccaneers - I'm more impressed with their 3-0 start than I am with the Bengals, but the same question must still be asked of them... who have they played?
9. Cowboys - Hard to put them here after the way the last two games went down... but I'm going to remember that those were both big rivalry games.
10. Chiefs - Offensive line is suddenly a cause for concern now is it?

I want to put a big ole dividing line there between number six and number 7 tho', as there's a significant dropoff in power after the Jaggies.

Best Offense: Bengals/Eagles - tie
Best Defense: Redskins
Best Special Teams: don't know/can't say
Best Coaching: Patriots

[The Prince of Darkness]

I did pretty good, didn't I? Huh fellas? :D

You guys wouldn't know this, but I did even better than that. In our office pool - where we pick the winners of every game (straight up) - I only got one wrong. One!

You know which one.

Unbelievable, that game. That's as big a shock to me as Green Bay losing to the lowly Brownies at home... on Reggie White Day. Well, it looks like the Steelers are yet another team that just can't get around New England. The list keeps growing and growing... The Patriots are all that. Their players aren't just talented, they're also disciplined and they have a real desire to win. They listen to their coaches. And their coaches know football. They seem to know it inside out and every which way. Total pros. And most of all, it's as Joe Theismann said, 'They're just willing to play harder longer'. And, of course, they have Tom Brady.

But for three quarters, the Steelers looked like the better team. I don't know how they lost it. Except maybe the Patriots just wore them down - wore them out - both mentally and physically... but especially mentally. I know they didn't lose because of "the lateral" though.

I was at the bar watching it and right after everybody picked their jaws up off the floor they started yelling at El and cursing him. But I argued that it wasn't his fault... it was Hines Ward's. Stop. I feel I have to interrupt myself and tell you what I think of Hines Ward: he's my favorite player in all the NFL. But it looked to me like he called for it. And what's more, it hit him square in the hands! Randle El tossed it right to him. Yes it was dumb that the Steelers came away with nothing on that drive, but I still don't think it was that bad a play. They were being aggressive, they were going after the Pats with everything they had.

Anways, moving on, we're three weeks in now... what are your feelings? Any new thoughts? What do your personal Power Rankings look like?

Here's mine:

1. Patriots - For right now... We'll see where they are after next couple of weeks tho'... the injuries and coaching changes have got to start taking a toll sometime...
2. Colts - It's just scary to think of what they'll be like when the offense gets going.
3. Falcons - Interesting matchup coming Sunday.
4. Eagles - Donovan McNabb is a lot like Peyton Manning - they both start out slow... scary! I was dissapointed with their defensive effort this past Sunday tho'...
5. Steelers - This Ben guy, I tell ya...
6. Jaguars - Tough, tough, team
7. Bengals - 3-0 for this team = meh. Yeah, I said it. When do they actually play somebody?
8. Buccaneers - I'm more impressed with their 3-0 start than I am with the Bengals, but the same question must still be asked of them... who have they played?
9. Cowboys - Hard to put them here after the way the last two games went down... but I'm going to remember that those were both big rivalry games.
10. Chiefs - Offensive line is suddenly a cause for concern now is it?

I want to put a big ole dividing line there between number six and number 7 tho', as there's a significant dropoff in power after the Jaggies.

Best Offense: Bengals/Eagles - tie
Best Defense: Redskins
Best Special Teams: don't know/can't say
Best Coaching: Patriots

Yeah Glock you did well, and those games were really tough to pick. Anyway, here are my power rankings for you. Bear in mind that this is based exclusively on what I have seen so far, and not necessarily how I think things are going to go.

1.Cincy-that's right Cincy! Sure they have not played anyone, but they are still 3-0, and have clobbered the opposition.
2.Indy-they are undefeated too but I just don't think that they have been all that impressive. Maybe teams are catching on?
3.NE-they are the champs. What can I say--top 5 until proven otherwise.
4.Pittsburgh-well I still think they will win the SB,but for now #4.
5.Hotlanta-Tough D and Mike Vick equals the best team in the NFC.
6.Philly-I like 'em, but I guess I just think they are getting to be a bit streaky.
7.TB-3-0 is the only reason they are in here, and they won't be for long.
8.J'ville-they showed me alot last Sunday. Tough ass D and just enough O can win ya Super Bowls. Just ask my boy Billick.
9.Seattle-I don't know why I like these guys, but I do. Maybe it is Holmgren.
10.Carolina-Way better than the record indicates. They will be right in the mix in the end.

[The Prince of Darkness]

Best offensive-I still say the Steelers. NE did not stop them, they shot themselves in the foot.

Best defense-So far its the Jags. They are real fast and real aggresive.

Best coaching-Can there be any doubt? Marvin and the Bungles. I wish that the Ravens would have fired Billick and promoted Marvin. He is a winner.

MVP candidates-Carson Palmer, Chad Johnson, TO, Big Ben, Tom Brady

[Glockstar]

Man, you gotta cut Billick some slack. Marvin Lewis is right for the Bungles... and that's it. Billick is still one of the Top 5 coaches in the league.

And you guys are wrong about A.Wright too. You'll see.

-

We picking games again this week?

I almost hope not. I mean dang, what a tough week! I'd be lucky to finish at .500...

[Rogue Bounty Hunter]

I'll pick some games for us this week


Minnesota vs Atlanta - This is a hard one. I like Culpepper more than Vick, but Atlanta has a better D than the Vikings. Fortunately, this is a dome game and Minnesota may win this one. I'm going for the upset: Vikings 31- Falcons 27

Philly vs KC - Philly didn't look good vs Oakland, but KC looked awful in Denver. Even with McNabb's injury, Philly's D shutdown KC's passing game. Unless The Priest can have a good game, I'm picking Eagles to win, 21-14.

Detroit vs Tampa Bay - Tampa's playing well, but if this game was in Detroit, I would go for the upset. Good thing this is in Florida, Tampa 27 Detroit 10

Denver vs Jacksonville - Denver looked great vs Kansas City, but they play a team that has two pro bowl calibur DTs. They will shut the running game down, which will let Plummer make his usual mistakes. Jax 17 Denver 14

St. Louis vs Giants - I'm not sold on St Louis winning on grass, but I don't have a good feeling about the Giants' D, especially after SD had a field day against them. Rams 31 Giants 27

Personal Pick- This is no surprise. San Diego vs New England. It's a road game, but I think the Patroits may have lost something when Harrison went down for the season. Tomlinson continues to run strong, and SD wins 24- 21.

[The Prince of Darkness]

I'll pick some games for us this week


Minnesota vs Atlanta - This is a hard one. I like Culpepper more than Vick, but Atlanta has a better D than the Vikings. Fortunately, this is a dome game and Minnesota may win this one. I'm going for the upset: Vikings 31- Falcons 27

Philly vs KC - Philly didn't look good vs Oakland, but KC looked awful in Denver. Even with McNabb's injury, Philly's D shutdown KC's passing game. Unless The Priest can have a good game, I'm picking Eagles to win, 21-14.

Detroit vs Tampa Bay - Tampa's playing well, but if this game was in Detroit, I would go for the upset. Good thing this is in Florida, Tampa 27 Detroit 10

Denver vs Jacksonville - Denver looked great vs Kansas City, but they play a team that has two pro bowl calibur DTs. They will shut the running game down, which will let Plummer make his usual mistakes. Jax 17 Denver 14

St. Louis vs Giants - I'm not sold on St Louis winning on grass, but I don't have a good feeling about the Giants' D, especially after SD had a field day against them. Rams 31 Giants 27

Personal Pick- This is no surprise. San Diego vs New England. It's a road game, but I think the Patroits may have lost something when Harrison went down for the season. Tomlinson continues to run strong, and SD wins 24- 21.

Too funny! I was literally typing up a post with my chosen games when I got e-mailed that you had responded first. Oh well the only one that I would have changed was to substitute the Sea/Washington game for Det./TB.

Minnesota@Atlanta---Atlanta is hot, they have Mike Vick, and they are at home. No upset here. Hotlanta 27-21.

Philly@KC---This is the best game of the week imo(should have been on Monday night but NOOOOOO) Anyway, I look for Philly to simply out thug this soft KC team. Iggles 21-10.

Detroit@TB---You know Tampa will have to play someone one day and they will lose when they do. That is not this week. Bucs in a real thriller:rolleyes:17-14.

Denver @J'ville---For some unknown reason this game reminds me of Philly/KC. Oh I know why---one tough team and one wussie team. Jags 21-7.

STL@NYG---There is no way that Hammerin' Hank would pick a dome team over a decent outdoor team at home, and neither will I. Giants in a close one 24-21.

Now for my bonus pick, and you guys know who that is. The NY Jets@Baltimore. This is a toughie too. If Chad was playing I think that I would pick the Jets, but without him I think we get it done. Plus we had 2 weeks to prepare. Plus we know that we have Cincy and Pitt. coming up. Ravens 21-14.

Now this is for you Glock. What do Gibbs, Cowher, Shannahan, Holmgren, Dungee, Reid, the Tuna, and Vermeil have in common? They are all better coaches than Billick:p
Seriously dude, top 5? He is supposed to be an offensive genius, but he is not even a top 5 offensive coach anymore.

[Glockstar]

Too funny! I was literally typing up a post with my chosen games when I got e-mailed that you had responded first. Oh well the only one that I would have changed was to substitute the Sea/Washington game for Det./TB.

...my bonus pick, and you guys know who that is. The NY Jets@Baltimore. This is a toughie too. If Chad was playing I think that I would pick the Jets, but without him I think we get it done. Plus we had 2 weeks to prepare. Plus we know that we have Cincy and Pitt. coming up. Ravens 21-14.

Now this is for you Glock. What do Gibbs, Cowher, Shannahan, Holmgren, Dungee, Reid, the Tuna, and Vermeil have in common? They are all better coaches than Billick:p
Seriously dude, top 5? He is supposed to be an offensive genius, but he is not even a top 5 offensive coach anymore.

Whatever, dude. Gibbs, Cowher, and Parcells... yeah, they're in the top 5. But Shanahan, Holmgren, Dungee, Reid, and Vermeil? No way are they better coaches than Billick. (Of course, I personally wouldn't put any of those guys in the top 10.)

And what is up with all the 'he's supposed to be an offensive guru' stuff? What, just because he was the mastermind behind a potent Vikings attack? Fair enough, I suppose. But then he became the head coach of an entire team and lead them to a SuperBowl victory... but do you give him any recognition for that? Noooo. Come on.

-

So I guess we're going to do this... okay then.

It's an interesting week.

First, let's get The Locks out of the way... which, coincidentally, involve all of our favorite teams - isn't that neat? : New England over San Diego, Baltimore over the Jets, and Carolina over Green Bay.

Now the hard ones... you don't have the Buffalo/NEW ORLEANS game in there, Hunter? Not that I'm complaining mind you. But I figure every Saints game this year is going to be a b!tch to call. The other super-hard one is the Houston/CINCI game. I'm telling you, Houston is a decent team - and Cincinnati has not done all that well at Paul Brown Stadium. I think there's an upset here.

Finally, The Picks...

Vikings @ FALCONS - I think this game is going to be a real doozy... I think turnovers and Special-Teams decide it... And I just think the Falcons have "it". ATL 34-31.

Eagles @ CHEFS - Actually, I think this game is pretty easy to call... Kansas City's a playoff-type team - they're going to win these kinds of games... Especially at home. KAN 28-21.

Lions @ BUCCANEERS - I've been trying to find out Mooch's after-the-bye record all day - but can't find anything... Dangit!... I don't like the Lions; I like the Bucs - but I've a hunch the Lions have got a game plan. Det 20-16.

Broncos @ JAGUARS - The Jags are coming off the kind of win that normally gets followed by a loss... But then again, so is Denver... so I guess travel distance will decide it. JAC 23-17.

Rams @ GIANTS - Rams-Giants games are always tough to call... But I'm not going to spend too much time thinking about this one: I know St Louis is playoff bound, and that the NYG will be competing for the First-Pick in the Draft... I also know that that normally doesn't mean anything when you're talking about Mike Martz's team, but this week the team has actually had work to do and has had to practice. Rams 31-16.

You know my Bonus Pick already. :(

[Rogue Bounty Hunter]

And what is up with all the 'he's supposed to be an offensive guru' stuff? What, just because he was the mastermind behind a potent Vikings attack? Fair enough, I suppose. But then he became the head coach of an entire team and lead them to a SuperBowl victory... but do you give him any recognition for that? Noooo. Come on.

I always credit that D for the Super Bowl win. The O is about what it is now....nothing special besides Jamal Lewis. I wasn't expecting Billick to have a 30 point a game team, but geez, how do they even score? Jon Gruden is also supposed to be an offensive guru, but TB won that Super Bowl with D as well.

-

So I guess we're going to do this... okay then.

It's an interesting week.

First, let's get The Locks out of the way... which, coincidentally, involve all of our favorite teams - isn't that neat? : New England over San Diego, Baltimore over the Jets, and Carolina over Green Bay.

Now the hard ones... you don't have the Buffalo/NEW ORLEANS game in there, Hunter? Not that I'm complaining mind you. But I figure every Saints game this year is going to be a b!tch to call. The other super-hard one is the Houston/CINCI game. I'm telling you, Houston is a decent team - and Cincinnati has not done all that well at Paul Brown Stadium. I think there's an upset here.

Finally, The Picks...

Vikings @ FALCONS - I think this game is going to be a real doozy... I think turnovers and Special-Teams decide it... And I just think the Falcons have "it". ATL 34-31.

Eagles @ CHEFS - Actually, I think this game is pretty easy to call... Kansas City's a playoff-type team - they're going to win these kinds of games... Especially at home. KAN 28-21.

Lions @ BUCCANEERS - I've been trying to find out Mooch's after-the-bye record all day - but can't find anything... Dangit!... I don't like the Lions; I like the Bucs - but I've a hunch the Lions have got a game plan. Det 20-16.

Broncos @ JAGUARS - The Jags are coming off the kind of win that normally gets followed by a loss... But then again, so is Denver... so I guess travel distance will decide it. JAC 23-17.

Rams @ GIANTS - Rams-Giants games are always tough to call... But I'm not going to spend too much time thinking about this one: I know St Louis is playoff bound, and that the NYG will be competing for the First-Pick in the Draft... I also know that that normally doesn't mean anything when you're talking about Mike Martz's team, but this week the team has actually had work to do and has had to practice. Rams 31-16.

You know my Bonus Pick already. :(

The overall records of these picks will be interesting around Tuesday. The Jacksonville win is the only sweep in the predictions.

I overlooked the Bills/Saints game. I would give it to the Saints, just because LB Takeo Spikes is out for the season for Buffalo, and QB Losman hasn't done much yet. The Redskin/Seahawks game would be too easy for me to pick. The only way I'll pick Washington in any week is if they play themselves.

[Rogue Bounty Hunter]

Well, I went 2-3 again, but it's offset by the personal pick win. Whoo Hoo! What about 'dem Chargers? Overall, I'm 4-6, 2-0 on personal picks (now known as pp).

A couple of things that impressed me:

Drew Brees- I'm a fan of his now. As big of a fan when he was at Purdue. He looks cool and calm in the pocket. If he keeps it up, I see SD trading QB Phillip Rivers to a team that needs a QB (Carolina?) and getting a first round pick.

The Eagles- For a team that refuses to run the football, they look good on offense. McNabb has more reliable receivers now, and a really good tight end.

[Fivespot]

Drew Brees- I'm a fan of his now. As big of a fan when he was at Purdue. He looks cool and calm in the pocket. If he keeps it up, I see SD trading QB Phillip Rivers to a team that needs a QB (Carolina?) and getting a first round pick.

I totally agree w/you, I think SD can trade Rivers for a 1st round pick and may be able to do that even sooner than next year if they can catch a team real desperate for help. It sure is a great position to be in!

Only prediction - Pack will finally get a win tonight at the expense of the Panthers. Allright, my pick should be discounted because I have green & gold glasses on but I still honestly believe this will happen. Otherwise I may join the WI minions and jump off a cliff tomorrow morning ;) Go Pack Go

[The Prince of Darkness]

I cannot believe that the Jags failed me this week.

Hey a couple of observations from me this week. First, I am very impressed with those Iggles too. I picked them to win, but not to win in a shootout. They went into KC, and whooped them at their own game. Second, way to go Bolts!!!!! I did not get to see that game, but I guess that NE will fall out of my top 5 power rankings much more quickly than anticipated. Finally, is it me or does there seem to be more parity this year? I mean the only teams that seem to be really impressing me and getting it done on a regular basis so far are the following: TB, The Vicks, The Iggles, Cincy, and The Dolts.

[The Prince of Darkness]

Only prediction - Pack will finally get a win tonight at the expense of the Panthers. Allright, my pick should be discounted because I have green & gold glasses on but I still honestly believe this will happen. Otherwise I may join the WI minions and jump off a cliff tomorrow morning ;) Go Pack Go

I would take that bet Fivespot. I think that Carolina is the better team, and they are just about as desperate for a win.

[The Prince of Darkness]

Whatever, dude. Gibbs, Cowher, and Parcells... yeah, they're in the top 5. But Shanahan, Holmgren, Dungee, Reid, and Vermeil? No way are they better coaches than Billick. (Of course, I personally wouldn't put any of those guys in the top 10.)

And what is up with all the 'he's supposed to be an offensive guru' stuff? What, just because he was the mastermind behind a potent Vikings attack? Fair enough, I suppose. But then he became the head coach of an entire team and lead them to a SuperBowl victory... but do you give him any recognition for that? Noooo. Come on.


Well if we are talking about SB wins then Shanahan, Holmgren, and Vermeil are right in there. I mean Shanahan and Holmgren have two each right and Vermeil has one---same as Billick. I know that you think that I am hating on Billick, but I am not. Sure he deserves some credit for that SB, but let's face facts. How hard is it when you have a D that rivaled the D's of the Steel Curtain and Da Bears? Then add to it the fact that the only play calls that you had to make were runs up the middle to grind clock, and simple screens and 5-10 yard outs. That's all we really had to do that year.

[Glockstar]

Well if we are talking about SB wins then Shanahan, Holmgren, and Vermeil are right in there. I mean Shanahan and Holmgren have two each right and Vermeil has one---same as Billick. I know that you think that I am hating on Billick, but I am not. Sure he deserves some credit for that SB, but let's face facts. How hard is it when you have a D that rivaled the D's of the Steel Curtain and Da Bears? Then add to it the fact that the only play calls that you had to make were runs up the middle to grind clock, and simple screens and 5-10 yard outs. That's all we really had to do that year.

Oh come on... you guys both know that the Packers, Broncos, and Rams were waaaaay better football teams. All three were teams of destiny and everybody knew they were going to the SB that year. The Ravens on the other hand... nobody could've predicted that. And the Steelers and the Bears don't do anything to further your argument - they both had great offenses too: Terry Bradshaw, Franco Harris, Lynn Swann, John Stallworth, Walter Payton... William the Refrigerator Perry :p ...

Billick = Pure coaching genius.

It's like this: there are some teams that anybody could win with - that it doesn't matter who the hc is, the team is going to win the SuperBowl (the Cowboys last SB win immediately comes to mind) - but the Ravens were not one of those teams. Yes, when Billick was OC of the Vikes, they were an offensive powerhouse; and he became known as an offensive guru - but I'm telling you, it doesn't matter what coaching position you charge him with - defense, wide receivers, defensive backs, whatever - he would be the guru.

[Fivespot]

Well if we are talking about SB wins then Shanahan, Holmgren, and Vermeil are right in there. I mean Shanahan and Holmgren have two each right and Vermeil has one---same as Billick. I know that you think that I am hating on Billick, but I am not. Sure he deserves some credit for that SB, but let's face facts. How hard is it when you have a D that rivaled the D's of the Steel Curtain and Da Bears? Then add to it the fact that the only play calls that you had to make were runs up the middle to grind clock, and simple screens and 5-10 yard outs. That's all we really had to do that year.

Holmgren has only 1 SB win w/2 appearances. Shanahan & Vermeil have two however (like you stated).

[Glockstar]

Well, I went 2-3 again, but it's offset by the personal pick win. Whoo Hoo! What about 'dem Chargers? Overall, I'm 4-6, 2-0 on personal picks (now known as pp).

A couple of things that impressed me:

Drew Brees- I'm a fan of his now. As big of a fan when he was at Purdue. He looks cool and calm in the pocket. If he keeps it up, I see SD trading QB Phillip Rivers to a team that needs a QB (Carolina?) and getting a first round pick.

...

Ouch; 1-4. That's more like it! :rolleyes:

No, I knew that I got lucky the week before. This is the NFL: unpredictable as hail.

And that's three weeks in a row where I got nailed on my "Lock of the Week". (Well, actually, if I had to pick just one Lock it probably would've been the Ravens game, but... )

Next week, if I'm smart, I'll remember to change my Locks to "Shocks...". :o

-

You're just now recognizing Drew Brees?! Man you're slow. No, come on dude, I told you Drew was the man last year...

Just like you guys didn't believe me about me A.Wright. Yeah, but you're gonna listen to me now, eh?!

You guys watch last nites game? There's a couple of young guns and future stars of the NFL: Josh McCown and Alex Smith. Both of them have amazing arms. I think there are a lot of teams that are going to be all set at the QB position in the next couple of years. And be set for some time.

The Lions are not one of those teams however. It's amazing to me that a guy like McCown can do it, but guys like Harrington and Boller can't. Harrington sucks. The Lions are in big trouble. If they want to salvage this year they are going to have to do something about their quarterback now. They almost ought to sacrifice this year and tank it and go for Leinart - of course that'd be crazy, considering that they're supposed to make the playoffs this year. Then again, they keep Harrington in there it could happen real easy.

What do you guys think of Losman? Fox Radio was dogging him all day yesterday. Ragging on him big time. They don't think he has it. They don't think he has anything. I haven't seen him play yet, so I can't say.

[Glockstar]

Only prediction - Pack will finally get a win tonight at the expense of the Panthers. Allright, my pick should be discounted because I have green & gold glasses on but I still honestly believe this will happen. Otherwise I may join the WI minions and jump off a cliff tomorrow morning ;) Go Pack Go

Yeah, I'm afraid you're deluded, my friend.

Although... after the Packers lost to the Brownies in week 2 - and it became apparent that this was going to be a real tough year - I did have a premonition - a vision - that the only games the Packers would win this year would be the nationally televised games... so there's that.

Normally when little birds tell me things I listen, but I find this one to be too big of stretch. Plus, the Panthers and the Packers have a bit of a rivalry going. If the Panthers would've won last week in Miami I might've considered it, but the cookies just aren't crumbling in any favorable fashion for the Pack, I think the Panthers bounce back and take it out on Green Bay.

-

Say, how did you do on your FFL draft? Did you ever have it?

[Fivespot]

Yeah, I'm afraid you're deluded, my friend.

Although... after the Packers lost to the Brownies in week 2 - and it became apparent that this was going to be a real tough year - I did have a premonition - a vision - that the only games the Packers would win this year would be the nationally televised games... so there's that.

Normally when little birds tell me things I listen, but I find this one to be too big of stretch. Plus, the Panthers and the Packers have a bit of a rivalry going. If the Panthers would've won last week in Miami I might've considered it, but the cookies just aren't crumbling in any favorable fashion for the Pack, I think the Panthers bounce back and take it out on Green Bay.

-

Say, how did you do on your FFL draft? Did you ever have it?

I hope you're wrong but your thoughts sure make alot of sense. Like I said, please take my opinion for what it is (a homer opinion). I just can't see the Pack going 0-4. Plus, in all the interviews and such around here last week - the team has a strange but apparent confidance going into this one. If there offense would play up to par, they'd be at least an 8-8 team since the defense has been surprisingly OK when we all thought it would be the worst in the league. Unfortunately, the loss of our two starting guards from last year seems to have hurt the offense much more than anyone could have anticipated. To make matters worse, our #1 receiver is also gone for the season. Time for Favre to have one of his typical, sensational MNF games!

Yeah, I'm in a FF league and are 2-2 thus far. My team consists of Tom Brady, Priest Holmes, Ahman Green, Steve Smith, Rod Smith, Lavernius Coles, Antonio Gates, DeShaun Foster, Duce Staley, Jeff Wilkins, John Kasay, Aaron Brooks, Jerry Porter, Greg Lewis, and Jeremy Stevens (off the top of my head - may have missed a player in there somewhere). No staring D in our league.

Hows your FF going?

[The Prince of Darkness]

Holmgren has only 1 SB win w/2 appearances. Shanahan & Vermeil have two however (like you stated).

I thought that the Pack won 2 SB's with Favre and Holmgren together.

[Rogue Bounty Hunter]

I thought that the Pack won 2 SB's with Favre and Holmgren together.

I believe GB went to two straight, but lost the 2nd one to Denver. That was during SD's Ryan Leaf blunder, I think.

[Rogue Bounty Hunter]

You're just now recognizing Drew Brees?! Man you're slow. No, come on dude, I told you Drew was the man last year...

I was a big Brees fan until miday through the 2003 season. He sucked so bad, I wanted the team to draft a QB. Brees is lucky, though. I think if Phillip Rivers didn't hold out, he would have started last year unless he stunk it up during preseason.

Just like you guys didn't believe me about me A.Wright. Yeah, but you're gonna listen to me now, eh?!

I still don't believe you :) You know who would be good for Baltimore next year? Chad Pennington. If the Jets decide to go elsewhere, especially with Chad's injuries and a big salary + signing bonus for next year, I can see Chad being a cap casualty. He doesn't have the strongest arm (doesn't need it), but he's a good passer, and The Ravens desperately need one that isn't another rookie.

You guys watch last nites game? There's a couple of young guns and future stars of the NFL: Josh McCown and Alex Smith. Both of them have amazing arms. I think there are a lot of teams that are going to be all set at the QB position in the next couple of years. And be set for some time.

Why did the Cardinals even sign Kurt Warner? I thought McCown had potential, but just needed some time. it's not the Cards are going to the playoffs this year, so this should be another year for McCown to get used to the NFL. Then the Cards could consider being a playoff team next year.
The Lions are not one of those teams however. It's amazing to me that a guy like McCown can do it, but guys like Harrington and Boller can't. Harrington sucks. The Lions are in big trouble. If they want to salvage this year they are going to have to do something about their quarterback now. They almost ought to sacrifice this year and tank it and go for Leinart - of course that'd be crazy, considering that they're supposed to make the playoffs this year. Then again, they keep Harrington in there it could happen real easy.

I see the Lions getting rid of Harrington. With all those weapons, Joey should be putting up big numbers. They could go after Pennington if he becomes a FA, but here's what they should do if they want to go young: trade for Phillip Rivers. Reason why? So they can get a young QB who is a gun slinger, and SD can get WR Mike Williams in the trade. It may or may not sound fair, but (here comes a mini-rant) Williams should have been a Bolt. Detroit didn't need another WR this early in the draft. They are paying three WR first round money. They can't all get 80 + catches, maybe two of them. If Rogers and Roy stay healthy, that's all they need. Give SD Mike Williams.

What do you guys think of Losman? Fox Radio was dogging him all day yesterday. Ragging on him big time. They don't think he has it. They don't think he has anything. I haven't seen him play yet, so I can't say.

I haven't see Losman play yet, either. I rarely have high expectations on a first year starter at QB, even if it's his second year in the pros. Preseason isn't enough time to get ready for most QBs, and he didn't get playing time last year because Buffalo almost made the playoffs. The Bills should just try to get him ready to be good for the long haul, and if they pick up some wins this season, that's fine. If not, it's not the end since they may not have been a lock for the playoffs, especially with a very strong AFC West taking one if not both of the wildcards.

[Fivespot]

I thought that the Pack won 2 SB's with Favre and Holmgren together.

Man I wish that were true. I've always held out hope that Favre would get another chance to win one but that is obviously impossible at this juncture.

[The Prince of Darkness]

Man I wish that were true. I've always held out hope that Favre would get another chance to win one but that is obviously impossible at this juncture.

Yup, RBH jogged my memory with his post. The thing is, if you ask Glock, he will tell you that the Broncos beating your Packers in that SB was "expected". Sure it was. I remember thinking that GB was going to kill Denver in that SB just like the other times that Denver was in the SB. That was a huge upset.

[Glockstar]

Yup, RBH jogged my memory with his post. The thing is, if you ask Glock, he will tell you that the Broncos beating your Packers in that SB was "expected". Sure it was. I remember thinking th