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Aylmer
07-14-2005, 08:11 PM
I read today that U.S. Senator Hillary Clinton has announced that she will begin an investigation into the GTA: San Andreas game because of it's unlockable graphic sexual content.

I have never played GTA, so I do not know the specifics, but I do think it's a bit odd for this particular Senator to get upset about this kind of thing in a video game, since she was First Lady in a White House that was the site of the biggest sex scandal in American history.

Since then, evidently, she has had a change of heart.

Lieberman, Hatch, Clinton...why can't they just go away.

Rogue Bounty Hunter
07-15-2005, 05:26 AM
From what I've read, it's the PC version that's causing all the trouble. It's uncertain if the gamer(s) modified their GTAs to have that content, or if it was already in the game but unlocked. I dunno if the same content is in the console versions of San Andreas, but if they are, they are hard to get into unless someone mods their console.

Superjoint Ritual
07-15-2005, 08:31 PM
Lieberman, Hatch, Clinton...why can't they just go away. People like them never will. Washington is the pinnacle of celberty. and every celberty loves the cameras.

We have millions of people coming across our borders who we have ni idea who they are, we have a group of Muslims trying to kill everything for virgins, and we're worried about Grand Theft Auto?

It's a safe debate that will resonate with parents. Hillary is just another empty shell of a American grasping for power.

Our country has been dead since 'Nam. Now we're watching it rot into shallow pool of human nature. The voice of reason echo's across the walls of justice until it dissapears into the void of complacancy. We're to busy with wieght loss, tanning, and who's hot in Hollywood to notice that the world is changing right before our eyes and America is quichly learning the lesson of Rome.

Cuddly Knife
07-16-2005, 09:39 AM
From what I've read, it's the PC version that's causing all the trouble. It's uncertain if the gamer(s) modified their GTAs to have that content, or if it was already in the game but unlocked. I dunno if the same content is in the console versions of San Andreas, but if they are, they are hard to get into unless someone mods their console.
Taken from Gamespot:

Confirmed: Sex minigame in PS2 San Andreas
Cheat unlocks preexisting code in controversy-rocked Grand Theft Auto game, undermining Rockstar Games' claims of hacker mischief.

This week saw a Grand Theft Auto game once again at the center of a nationwide controversy. The point of contention this time was the so-called "Hot Coffee" mod for Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, which had everyone from anti-game crusader Jack Thompson to US Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) percolating with outrage and/or calls for federal game regulation.

The Hot Coffee mod first surfaced last month, when the PC version of San Andreas was released. The mod, which is available on numerous Web sites, adds a bonus sex minigame as a reward for the numerous "girlfriend" missions in San Andreas.

Previously, when game hero Carl "CJ" Johnson successfully wined and dined one of several girlfriends a certain number of times, she would ask him into her house for "coffee." After entering, the game shows an external shot of the house with muffled sounds of a couple emitting moans in flagrante delicto. PC versions of San Andreas with the "Hot Coffee" mod installed show what goes on inside the house, treating players to a sexually graphic minigame of CJ fornicating with his girlfriend.

According to its creators, the Hot Coffee mod merely unlocks hidden, preexisting code inside San Andreas. The game's publisher, Rockstar Games, vehemently--but carefully--denied that charge in a statement earlier this week. "So far we have learned that the 'Hot Coffee' modification is the work of a determined group of hackers who have gone to significant trouble to alter scenes in the official version of the game," the company said. "In violation of the software user agreement, hackers created the 'Hot Coffee' modification by disassembling and then combining, recompiling and altering the game's source code."

Rockstar's statement also claimed that the mod was the product of complex technical tampering. "Since the 'Hot Coffee' scenes cannot be created without intentional and significant technical modifications and reverse-engineering of the game's source code, we are currently investigating ways that we can increase the security protection of the source code and prevent the game from being altered by the 'Hot Coffee' modification," read the statement.

However, Rockstar Games' argument has been undermined by an increasing number of reports that claimed the sex minigame is in the PlayStation 2 version of San Andreas. Since the PS2 version comes on an unmoddable DVD, it cannot have any content added to it, although cheat codes--created either by the publisher or third parties--can unlock preexisting code on the disc. While devices such as GameShark and Action Replay Max can tweak preexisting variables in system memory with cheats, they cannot inject new models, animations, and/or code into a game.

To prove or disprove rumors that the PS2 San Andreas contains a sexually graphic minigame, GameSpot decided to test the cheat codes circulating around the Web on a sealed, first-edition copy of San Andreas. After acquiring the "Uncensored Hot Coffee" codes from the respected tech-blog Kotaku, we entered them into an easily obtainable Action Replay Max cheat device. After entering the "Enable all Girlfriends" cheat, we began the game and then gave CJ maximum sex appeal, via a cheat from GameFAQs that requires no external code.

After saving, our test editor had Carl visit the house of his nearest girlfriend, Denise in Los Santos. Carl then took Denise on a series of dates to the nearest bar. After a few complications--including being busted for two-timing by another of CJ's girlfriends--we completed a fourth date with Denise, after which she invited us into her house for "coffee."

The next screen proved that the PlayStation 2 edition of the game does indeed include a sexually graphic minigame, which plays almost exactly the same as the Hot Coffee mod. It begins inside a bedroom with Denise, wearing only a pink thong and a cutoff T-shirt bearing the Rockstar logo, performing simulated fellatio on CJ, who is fully clothed in jeans and a "wife beater"-style tank top.

After a few seconds, the minigame proceeds to semi-explicit simulated copulation. Although players can change the camera angle with the circle button, as well as cycle though three sexual positions with the square button, no genitalia are ever seen. To win, players must maintain a steady rhythm with the left analog stick to build up an "excitement meter" in the right-hand screen. Fill the meter and Denise becomes very excited, telling CJ he is "the man" before the game congratulates you with the words "Nice guys finish last!" Let the meter drop to empty and the game admonishes you with "Failure to satisfy a woman is a CRIME!"

Given that the minigame is about as raunchy as an episode of Sex and the City, cannot be accessed without entering a long string of cheat codes, and takes several hours of effort to access, charges that San Andreas is "pornographic" may seem extreme to some. However, its existence does appear to contradict Rockstar Games' carefully worded statement blaming hacker mischief for the existence of the Hot Coffee mod.

D'OH! I was going to post a link to the vid, but they took it down.

Aylmer
07-16-2005, 04:42 PM
Thanks for the clarification. I'm sure that the controversy will sell many copies of GTA, though that kind of game is not my personal cup of tea.

FWIW, the Dreamcast game Omikron: The Nomad Soul, as well as it's PC counterpart, had 'simulated' sex acts, and also had a very detailed adult sex shop which had to be visited and a purchase made in order to advance in the game.

Also, in D2, the boss monsters were stylized genitalia. And the import version had an intense opening scene that I'll not go into.

I think all of this is a bit overblown, though. And it deserves to be stated again: having Senator Clinton leading the charge on video game indecency is an extreme excercise in hypocrisy.

Brendon
07-16-2005, 07:02 PM
This really will sell heaps and heaps of copies of GTA SA. Rockstar should just stop pretending and give the game its real slogan

I'M CONTROVERSIAL - BUY ME!

Take several dozen Average mini-games, make one or two big points of contention, stick in 'the hood', ta da, best seller.