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Superjoint Ritual
06-04-2005, 07:42 PM
No paticular order....

Guns N' Roses- Appetite for Destruction... Maybe the best albulm ever made, AfD was one of those rare cd's that came along and changed everything. I was nine years old when I first heard Appetite, and still to this day listen to the record regularly.

White Zombie- Astro Creep 2000... The best hard rock cd of the '90s imo. Fun, dirty, and halirious. More Human than a Human is still one of the best club tracks of all time.

Too $hort- Get in Where You Fit In... Back when rap was fun and silly, this record is a foundation too all things rap. Funk at its best. Get in where you fit in b!tch.

2pac- Me Agianst the World... **** the World is the best rap song ever made imo. Also, the title track is almost as good.

Killing Joke- Night Time..during the birth of industrial music, Night Time was recorded during the pinnacle of the cold war in England. Dark, haunting, and socially relevatent at he time; Night Time is one of the greatest records in my collection.

Marilyn Manson- Portrait of an American Family... I really don't know how to describe this, but it was before the band became a MTV whore then sliped into irrelavence. Snake Eyes and Sissies and Sweet Tooth are ******* amazing songs. Also, one of the best live bands I've ever seen.

My Life with the Thrill Kill Cult- Confessions of a Knife... A Daisy Chain for Satan is one of the best songs ever made imo. The rest of the albulm is great as well.

Skinny Puppy- Bites... God, this is the cream of the crop as far as industrial albulms go.

Micheal Jackson- Thriller... A pretty conservative choice, this is the blueprint for just about ever albulm made since. I can't stand the guy, but goddamn this is a great cd.

I could go on and on about Jennings, Zep, The Doors, Hendrix, but I liked to see some of your opinions.

Rogue Bounty Hunter
06-06-2005, 06:03 AM
Micheal Jackson- Thriller... A pretty conservative choice, this is the blueprint for just about ever albulm made since. I can't stand the guy, but goddamn this is a great cd.


LOL, I agree. I don't care too much for Mikey myself (before his recent troubles), but Thriller is definitely a great cd. He hasn't made too many good songs since.

As far as my fav cds, there aren't many. I've been listening various types of music that I put on my Xbox HDD more than actual cds, but I usually listen to:

Evanescence- Fallen: I bought this one last year after hearing a few of the songs in Gamestop. I have no idea when they will make another.

Pastor Troy- Face Off pt 2: He's not an actual Pastor. ATL-based artist who does mainly rap, but has a song on his latest CD called "Acid Rain" that is in memory of Kurt Cobain. it's a really good song, and the CD as a whole isn't bad either.

Tamia- More: Now known as Grant Hill's wife, but she has a great voice.

hobby
06-07-2005, 08:17 AM
Mase-harlem world
nirvana-nevermind
2pac- r u still down?(remember me)

those are my top 3

The Prince of Darkness
06-08-2005, 01:46 PM
No paticular order....

Guns N' Roses- Appetite for Destruction... Maybe the best albulm ever made, AfD was one of those rare cd's that came along and changed everything. I was nine years old when I first heard Appetite, and still to this day listen to the record regularly.

White Zombie- Astro Creep 2000... The best hard rock cd of the '90s imo. Fun, dirty, and halirious. More Human than a Human is still one of the best club tracks of all time.

Too $hort- Get in Where You Fit In... Back when rap was fun and silly, this record is a foundation too all things rap. Funk at its best. Get in where you fit in b!tch.

2pac- Me Agianst the World... **** the World is the best rap song ever made imo. Also, the title track is almost as good.

Killing Joke- Night Time..during the birth of industrial music, Night Time was recorded during the pinnacle of the cold war in England. Dark, haunting, and socially relevatent at he time; Night Time is one of the greatest records in my collection.

Marilyn Manson- Portrait of an American Family... I really don't know how to describe this, but it was before the band became a MTV whore then sliped into irrelavence. Snake Eyes and Sissies and Sweet Tooth are ******* amazing songs. Also, one of the best live bands I've ever seen.

My Life with the Thrill Kill Cult- Confessions of a Knife... A Daisy Chain for Satan is one of the best songs ever made imo. The rest of the albulm is great as well.

Skinny Puppy- Bites... God, this is the cream of the crop as far as industrial albulms go.

Micheal Jackson- Thriller... A pretty conservative choice, this is the blueprint for just about ever albulm made since. I can't stand the guy, but goddamn this is a great cd.

I could go on and on about Jennings, Zep, The Doors, Hendrix, but I liked to see some of your opinions.

There has not been a good music thread in a while so here it goes in no particular order and all over the map.

Smashing Pumpkins-Siamese Dream---Imo this is the best modern alternative album ever made. So much better than all the grunge that was out at the same time.

The Beatles-White Album---It is so tough to pick my favorite Beatles album between this, Sgt. Peppers, and Abbey Road. I choose this one simply because it was 2 albums and the others were not.

Built To Spill-Keep It Like a Secret---this one is my favorite semi-modern cd, and Doug Martsch is the best guitar player that no one has heard of so its on the list.

Charlie Mingus-The Shoes of the Fisherman's Wife are Some Jive Ass Slippers---I don't really love jazz, but this guy rules.

GNR-second half of Lies---I am going to go with you on the GNR thing. Even though the first half of this is garbage the second half makes up for it. This is the ballsiest acoustic stuff ever.

Iron Maiden-Number of the Beast---I loved this album as a kid. Best metal album EVAR.

Rush-2112---my favorite band of the 80's has got to be represented with their finest work.

U2-The Unforgettable Fire---my favorite band of the 90's has to be represented with their finest work.

The Grateful Dead-American Beauty---I will pick this because it is their best studio album, but in reality, they have 10-15 better live cd's ou there.

Death Cab for Cutie-Transatlanticism---I put this one on here because it is my favorite album to listen to now. We shall see if it holds up though.

trebor
06-09-2005, 10:58 AM
I'm a bigtime sucker for these kinds of threads...

Frank Zappa - You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol. 2 --- This was recorded live in Helsinki roughly in 1974, in funky period after the weirdness of the Mothers of Invention and before the more political satire influenced period of the 80s. My favorite Zappa lineup, and by far the funkiest IMO.

Rush - Hemispheres --- Pretty much the best album (IMO) of one of the best bands ever. Incredibly moody and moving music, set to some of the meanest bass lines Geddy has ever crammed down your throat.

Phish - Rift --- the best album by the best live band...ever. :)

Trilok Gurtu - Kathak --- it's impossible for me to pick a favorite album from Trilok, but since none of you have heard of him anyway, I'm going with Kathak. Imagine a funky blend of traditional Indian music with Western jazz. Has one of my favorite songs of all time - Seven Brings Return.

Peter Gabriel - Up --- the darkest, moodiest, and coolest album from one of the greatest artists of our time.

Oysterhead - The Grand Pecking Order --- Trey Anastasio, Les Claypool, and Stewart Copeland. Primo stuff from a bunch of talented weirdos.

Bela Fleck and the Flecktones - Live Art --- this 2 disc live album is hot rockin.

Yes - Relayer --- The Gates of Delirum and a 1/8 sack of weed. Nuff' said.

Living Colour - Times Up --- the uber brilliant sophmore album that utterly blows away their first album.

The Prince of Darkness
06-09-2005, 11:05 AM
From my two favorite lyricists of all-time:

Bob Dylan-Highway 61 Revisited and

The Doors-LA Woman

Superjoint Ritual
06-10-2005, 03:35 PM
From my two favorite lyricists of all-time:

Bob Dylan-Highway 61 Revisited and

The Doors-LA Woman Also-

Lay Lady Lay, and Wanted Man ( sung by Johnny Cash )- Bob Dylan

Crystal Ship, The End- The Doors

Also have to add Pretty Hate Macine by Nine Inch Nails to my list.

Cuddly Knife
06-10-2005, 07:49 PM
Faith No More/Mr. Bungle/Dream Theater/Type O Negative-These are the main bands right now that I can always hear and not get tired of. FNM/ MR. Bungle for tthe vocal genius that is Mike Patton. Dream Theater for their technical prowess. And Type O for their stoner-gloom metal. Layers.

I'm extremely pumped because next month I'll be going to a concert with Megadeth, Dream Theater, Fear Factory and three other bands that I don't care about and will not see unless they happen to be before the other bands. I really don't even care for Megadeth since they lost all original members except Mustaine. I would've loved to have seen them with Marty Friedman and Nick Menza, but no dice. To see Dream Theater live is my mission since I first heard them. Well, to see them and Satriani together is my real dream.

Most all my extra funds goes to getting games, and I've sorta lost touch with new music since I stopped playing seriously, but that'll pick up when I buy me my marimba. So I've been sticking to my "classics". FTM, Slayer(with Paul Bostaph, not the original drummer), 311, Dream Theater, Candiria, Nothingface, Prince.

The Prince of Darkness
06-13-2005, 07:06 AM
Crystal Ship, The End- The DoorS

Yeah I was really torn about whether to pick LA Woman or the Door's first. They are my two favorite Doors albums. Do you take the trippy and poppy early stuff or the ballsey and raspy later stuff? Tough choice.

slade
06-13-2005, 09:37 AM
This is what I listen to:

http://mirrors.phauna.org/pub/hiho/snake.swf

Cuddly Knife
06-18-2005, 07:34 PM
Some kind of music thread should be kept going in this mo fo.

Anyways, I just bought a couple of CD's that have been long overdue.

Fantomas-Suspended Animation

Tool-Anemia...or is it Anema?

Suspended Animation is friggan great. Too bad I didn't buy it when it came out, it would've made the calendar more meaningful. Hey, Gaddy! I didn't know that the one released before this one is actually one 75-minute song! I have to get it now! Have you heard Trevor Dunn's Trio something-or-other? I'm really interested in how jazzy it really is.

If you're a rock listener in some form and you don't like Tool, you should be shot on sight and fed to the pigs. Danny Carey is one of the sickest modern drummers ever. Maybe even sicker than Mike Portnoy of Dream Theater.

New Tool in two months!!!!

Gadfly2317
06-18-2005, 09:55 PM
Some kind of music thread should be kept going in this mo fo.

Anyways, I just bought a couple of CD's that have been long overdue.

Fantomas-Suspended Animation

Tool-Anemia...or is it Anema?

Suspended Animation is friggan great. Too bad I didn't buy it when it came out, it would've made the calendar more meaningful. Hey, Gaddy! I didn't know that the one released before this one is actually one 75-minute song! I have to get it now! Have you heard Trevor Dunn's Trio something-or-other? I'm really interested in how jazzy it really is.

If you're a rock listener in some form and you don't like Tool, you should be shot on sight and fed to the pigs. Danny Carey is one of the sickest modern drummers ever. Maybe even sicker than Mike Portnoy of Dream Theater.

New Tool in two months!!!!

Trevor Dunn's Trio Convulsant. . . yeah, I missed getting to see them and Fantomas play together by one night. Bogus deal. And yeah, you need to get the Fantomas album you were referring to , Delerium Cordia, it is one 75 long minute song and it recreates the psyche of someone undergoing surgery (literally, it is a surgery themed composition.) If you like that though, you HAVE to pick up John Zorn's Absynthe (actually, I think its a Naked City album.)

I'm also really into a some Bay Area bands right now, the main one being Sleepy Time Gorilla Museum (the kind of music you listen to, including the Patton stuff leads me to believe that your life will be incomplete until you acquire the two SGM albums "Grand Opening and Closing" and "Sleepytime Gorilla Museum of Natural History.") Also a big fan of SGM's violinist Carla Kihlstedt, her solo album and her work the the avant jazz group Tin Hat Trio.

Lately have also been listening to Ryuchi Sakamoto, NIN new album, Fantomas, Isis, and a lot of other stuff.

For the thread, my all time favorite albums are FNM's "Angel Dust", The Cure's "Disintegration" Death Cab for Cutie's "Transatlantacism" Aphex Twin's "Selected Ambient Works Vol 2, Disk 1, Amy Mann 's "Lost in Space and hell, I'm tired. .. . I don't know, I listen to so much, I'm a big fan of Lisa Germano, Marilyn Manson, Charles Mingus, The Beatles, PJ Harvey, KMFDM, My Life With the Thril Kill Kult, Butthole Surfers, Ministry, Pigface, Hem, Wilco, Sonic Youth, David Bowie, Mogwai, New Order, Depeche Mode, Johnny Cash, Bjork, U2, Ice Cube, Janes Addiction, Smashing Pumpkins, My Bloody Valentine, and once upon a time, a long time ago in a land far far away, I actually listened to eighties glam metal.

And so you don't kill me, I have a couple Tool and Perfect Circle albums.

And Lennon is better than McCartney.

Jupiter_x
06-19-2005, 06:18 AM
My Favorites:

I tend to lean towards the "Non Radio" style of music, band that aren't making the top ten charts.

Best album ever: Dream Theater - Awake

Second Best (used to be #1): Metallica - Master of Puppets

The rest are in no particular order:
Prodigy - Fat of the land
Megadeth - Peace Sells But Who's Buying
Iron Maiden - Seventh Son of a Seventh Son
Iron Maiden - Dance of Death
My Dying Bride - Like Gods of the Sun
Dream Theater - Train of Thought (Amazing)


Gigantour will be in Toronto on Sept 3rd: Nevermore, Megadeth, Dream Theater! I am there!

Fivespot
06-19-2005, 09:26 PM
Great thread. Hmm. This is tough but here are a few that come to the top of my head:

Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
Sublime - 40oz. to Freedom
Pink Floyd - Animals
Blind Melon - Soup
The Beatles - Abbey Road
George Harrison - Everything Must Pass
A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue
John Coltrane - Love Supreme
Tool - Undertow
Alice Donut - Three Sisters
John Lennon - Imagine
Beck - Midnite Vultures
Beastie Boys - Pauls Botique
Bob Dylan - New Morning
Steely Dan - Pretzel Logic
Little Blue Crunchy Things - Babies (Milwaukee area band)

Fivespot
06-20-2005, 12:03 PM
Great thread. Hmm. This is tough but here are a few that come to the top of my head:

Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
Sublime - 40oz. to Freedom
Pink Floyd - Animals
Blind Melon - Soup
The Beatles - Abbey Road
George Harrison - Everything Must Pass
A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue
John Coltrane - Love Supreme
Tool - Undertow
Alice Donut - Three Sisters
John Lennon - Imagine
Beck - Midnite Vultures
Beastie Boys - Pauls Botique
Bob Dylan - New Morning
Steely Dan - Pretzel Logic
Little Blue Crunchy Things - Babies (Milwaukee area band)


Also, Bjork's Debut

And now this is Mrs. Fivespot with my favs:

Erykah Badu - Mama's Gun
The Beatles - Abbey Road
George Harrison - ATMP
Paul McCartney - RAM
Bob Dylan - Bringing It All Back Home (tough choice though!)
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue
Neil Young - Everybody Knows This is Nowhere
Tribe Called Quest - People's Instinctive Travels
Public Enemy - Fear of a Black Planet
Bonnie Raitt - Nick of Time
Colplay - Parachutes
Beck - Guero
Lucinda Williams - World Without Tears
Little Blue Crunchy Things - Swarm
Joni Mitchell - Blue

A few off the top of my head, as you can see Mr. Fivespot and I share much of the same music likes! :)

Cuddly Knife
06-20-2005, 07:41 PM
Best album ever: Dream Theater - Awake

Really? Why? I personally think Scenes From A Memory shreds all other Dream Theater albums. It's the rockiness, isn't it? Mybe you liked the original keyboard player? I thought he was awesome... until I heard Jordan Rudess. Worst album has to be the one directly after... hmm, I can't remember the name of it, but it had Lines in the Sand and Hell's Kitchen. What are your favorite songs on Awake? Mine are Space-Dye Vest, Lie, Mirror, and the Silent Man. Not enought keyboards on that albom, IMO.



Gigantour will be in Toronto on Sept 3rd: Nevermore, Megadeth, Dream Theater! I am there!

That's the name of what I'm seeing! Except in place of Nevermore, it's Fear Factory.

I'm also really into a some Bay Area bands right now, the main one being Sleepy Time Gorilla Museum (the kind of music you listen to, including the Patton stuff leads me to believe that your life will be incomplete until you acquire the two SGM albums "Grand Opening and Closing" and "Sleepytime Gorilla Museum of Natural History.")

I'm sold. Consider them on my list. I'll let you know what I think about them in a coupla weeks.

Fivespot
06-20-2005, 07:42 PM
Ahh shzt, I'm reading the other posts now and can't believe I forgot Mike Patton. Glad to see a few other fans of his. I really dug Tomahawk and saw them open for Tool a few years back. I think I was the only one cheering for Tomahawk. Of course Patton three in his patented "I hate Milwaukee". Still love him however.

Tough to pick a fave of Mike Patton's work but would have to go with the first Bungle album. California would be my 2nd favorite Mr. Bungle album. Although Angel Dust rules, ever heard King for a Day, Fool for a Lifetime? That is a great Patton FNM. I love the way it covers so many different genres. I remember it getting bad reviews since it was all over the place which is precisely why I love it.

Have you hear Loveage (more great Patton)? Or the new Bjork where he appears on does a duet with her (if you can call it that). Bjork's newest is all vocals - no instruments. And Patton is one of the vocals. Have to hear it to fully appreciate it.

Haven't heard the last couple Fantomas albums. I only have the first 2 but like the 2nd with the Twin Peaks cover (AWESOME).

The Prince of Darkness
06-21-2005, 11:00 AM
Blind Melon - Soup



Soup on the list, but not their first? Are you kidding me? Their first was one of my very favorite debut albums. It was right up there with Zeppelin, Doors, and Boston. I almost put it on my list.

Superjoint Ritual
06-21-2005, 12:17 PM
Trevor Dunn's Trio Convulsant. . . yeah, I missed getting to see them and Fantomas play together by one night. Bogus deal. And yeah, you need to get the Fantomas album you were referring to , Delerium Cordia, it is one 75 long minute song and it recreates the psyche of someone undergoing surgery (literally, it is a surgery themed composition.) If you like that though, you HAVE to pick up John Zorn's Absynthe (actually, I think its a Naked City album.)

I'm also really into a some Bay Area bands right now, the main one being Sleepy Time Gorilla Museum (the kind of music you listen to, including the Patton stuff leads me to believe that your life will be incomplete until you acquire the two SGM albums "Grand Opening and Closing" and "Sleepytime Gorilla Museum of Natural History.") Also a big fan of SGM's violinist Carla Kihlstedt, her solo album and her work the the avant jazz group Tin Hat Trio.

Lately have also been listening to Ryuchi Sakamoto, NIN new album, Fantomas, Isis, and a lot of other stuff.

For the thread, my all time favorite albums are FNM's "Angel Dust", The Cure's "Disintegration" Death Cab for Cutie's "Transatlantacism" Aphex Twin's "Selected Ambient Works Vol 2, Disk 1, Amy Mann 's "Lost in Space and hell, I'm tired. .. . I don't know, I listen to so much, I'm a big fan of Lisa Germano, Marilyn Manson, Charles Mingus, The Beatles, PJ Harvey, KMFDM, My Life With the Thril Kill Kult, Butthole Surfers, Ministry, Pigface, Hem, Wilco, Sonic Youth, David Bowie, Mogwai, New Order, Depeche Mode, Johnny Cash, Bjork, U2, Ice Cube, Janes Addiction, Smashing Pumpkins, My Bloody Valentine, and once upon a time, a long time ago in a land far far away, I actually listened to eighties glam metal.

And so you don't kill me, I have a couple Tool and Perfect Circle albums.

And Lennon is better than McCartney.

Man, the new NIN albulm was prettly bad when compared to Trent's previous efforts imo. I thought it was boring.

I love A Perfect Circle. Thirtenth Step is a great cd to shroom too. But then there's Emotive, or whatever it was called... Man, that cd sucked. Someone needs too slap Maynard and tell him that 'Nam is over. Stupid hippy. ;)

Tool is f*cking awesome. Prison Sex is one of the best rock songs I've ever heard. Aniema is my favorite Tool albulm. Very trippy band.

Ha... We all listen to wierd music.

Fivespot
06-21-2005, 12:36 PM
Soup on the list, but not their first? Are you kidding me? Their first was one of my very favorite debut albums. It was right up there with Zeppelin, Doors, and Boston. I almost put it on my list.

Yup, thats the way I see it. Ironically, I hated Soup when it was first released as I was a huge fan of the first album. Over the years Soup has grown on me so much that it has surpassed the first in my eyes. Plus, I'm also a fan of jazz music and Soup in an interesting blend of N.O. jazz, rock, and alternative.

Thought you were going to rip on Blind Melon for a minute there. Glad to hear you like them enough to consider putting the first album on your list!!!

The Prince of Darkness
06-22-2005, 01:14 PM
Yup, thats the way I see it. Ironically, I hated Soup when it was first released as I was a huge fan of the first album. Over the years Soup has grown on me so much that it has surpassed the first in my eyes. Plus, I'm also a fan of jazz music and Soup in an interesting blend of N.O. jazz, rock, and alternative.

Thought you were going to rip on Blind Melon for a minute there. Glad to hear you like them enough to consider putting the first album on your list!!!

Oh yeah I love Blind Melon. Along with Janes Addiction and the Smashing Pumpkins they got me into alternative music. I have not looked back since. Not to even mention the fact that Shannon Hoon is one of the worst tragedies that ever happened to the music biz. What a shame. They were one of my claims to fame when it comes to live shows. I saw them at a really small club in DC right before that stupid bee girl thing broke them big. By the end of the show the place was practically empty and I was just standing there in front of the stage listening to the band. I did not think anything of that moment until I saw them the next time...at Woodstock '95.

The Prince of Darkness
06-22-2005, 01:27 PM
Trevor Dunn's Trio Convulsant. . . yeah, I missed getting to see them and Fantomas play together by one night. Bogus deal. And yeah, you need to get the Fantomas album you were referring to , Delerium Cordia, it is one 75 long minute song and it recreates the psyche of someone undergoing surgery (literally, it is a surgery themed composition.) If you like that though, you HAVE to pick up John Zorn's Absynthe (actually, I think its a Naked City album.)

I'm also really into a some Bay Area bands right now, the main one being Sleepy Time Gorilla Museum (the kind of music you listen to, including the Patton stuff leads me to believe that your life will be incomplete until you acquire the two SGM albums "Grand Opening and Closing" and "Sleepytime Gorilla Museum of Natural History.") Also a big fan of SGM's violinist Carla Kihlstedt, her solo album and her work the the avant jazz group Tin Hat Trio.

Lately have also been listening to Ryuchi Sakamoto, NIN new album, Fantomas, Isis, and a lot of other stuff.

For the thread, my all time favorite albums are FNM's "Angel Dust", The Cure's "Disintegration" Death Cab for Cutie's "Transatlantacism" Aphex Twin's "Selected Ambient Works Vol 2, Disk 1, Amy Mann 's "Lost in Space and hell, I'm tired. .. . I don't know, I listen to so much, I'm a big fan of Lisa Germano, Marilyn Manson, Charles Mingus, The Beatles, PJ Harvey, KMFDM, My Life With the Thril Kill Kult, Butthole Surfers, Ministry, Pigface, Hem, Wilco, Sonic Youth, David Bowie, Mogwai, New Order, Depeche Mode, Johnny Cash, Bjork, U2, Ice Cube, Janes Addiction, Smashing Pumpkins, My Bloody Valentine, and once upon a time, a long time ago in a land far far away, I actually listened to eighties glam metal.

And so you don't kill me, I have a couple Tool and Perfect Circle albums.

And Lennon is better than McCartney.

Yup Lennon was better than McCartney...way better.

This seems like a good time to ask you a couple things. I have really been digging Wilco and Sparklehorse---two bands that I read about in your posts. So far I have burned AM and A Ghost is Born by Wilco and Its A Wonderful Life and Vivadixiesubmarinetransmissionpilot by Sparklehorse. I absolutely love all of them, but are there any other must-haves in there?

Also, I have a few recommendations for you also. If you have not checked out any Built to Spill you are crazy. You would definately dig them---especially Keep it Like A Secret and Perfect From Now On. Do yourself a favor. Also, there is a really cool band called Kind of Like Spitting that is on Death Cabs label. Finally, you have probably checked this guy out, but if not...Ryan Adams. His CD Gold is my favorite CD that I am listening too right now.

Last thing. Did you hear that Wilco on Six Feet Under a couple weeks ago. That show is too much with the cool music. In fact, that show just flat-out rules this season. It is just gut wrenching.

trebor
06-23-2005, 12:05 PM
Since many of you have mentioned Dream Theater, I thought I should add that I've been utterly addicted to Disc 1 of Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence. Best. Dream Theater. Ever.

Disc 2 kinda sucks though.

Fivespot
06-23-2005, 03:00 PM
Yup Lennon was better than McCartney...way better.





Mrs. fivespot here....and the answer is no. McCartney, for me, is better (solo wise only here - as far as the Beatles go, you can't have one without the other). John gets mass credit and he should as he was very talented. However, Paul is not appreciated as much as he should be by Lennon fans. He is the better songwriter, singer, and can play multiple musical instruments very well. A very talented man. While I enjoy some of John's solo stuff, his work was more hit or miss than Paul's.

And even more so, George put out the best post Beatles album in ATMP.....hands down.

BeMore
06-23-2005, 04:28 PM
Mrs. fivespot here....and the answer is no. McCartney, for me, is better (solo wise only here - as far as the Beatles go, you can't have one without the other). John gets mass credit and he should as he was very talented. However, Paul is not appreciated as much as he should be by Lennon fans. He is the better songwriter, singer, and can play multiple musical instruments very well. A very talented man. While I enjoy some of John's solo stuff, his work was more hit or miss than Paul's.

And even more so, George put out the best post Beatles album in ATMP.....hands down.

Hello Mrs. Fivespot. I really really hate to disagree with women. In fact, it gets me in trouble all the time at home;) However, I hate to say it but I think that we have a simple case of gender differences here. Paul wrote most of the lovey dovey stuff on the Beatles albums while John wrote the trippy stuff. Sorry if I am generalizing too much, but I would bet that Mr. Fivespot probably likes the Lennon stuff better.

Btw--I will definately concur with you on the solo stuff. Lennon's stuff was way too out there even for my taste. I must say that I actually like the Wings stuff best of all the post-Beatles. Jet and Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey are the bomb!

Fivespot
06-23-2005, 06:43 PM
Hello Mrs. Fivespot. I really really hate to disagree with women. In fact, it gets me in trouble all the time at home;) However, I hate to say it but I think that we have a simple case of gender differences here. Paul wrote most of the lovey dovey stuff on the Beatles albums while John wrote the trippy stuff. Sorry if I am generalizing too much, but I would bet that Mr. Fivespot probably likes the Lennon stuff better.

Btw--I will definately concur with you on the solo stuff. Lennon's stuff was way too out there even for my taste. I must say that I actually like the Wings stuff best of all the post-Beatles. Jet and Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey are the bomb!

You are exactly correct - I prefer John Lennon. My wife and I have this constant argument (in a good way of course). She's always been more of a Paul fan. He does have some great albums however; Band on the Run, RAM, his self titled debut, Wings at the Speed of Sound are his best IMO. I'm sure the Mrs. would agree.

We actually have Paul tickets for later this year and also saw him last year. He sure puts on one hell of a show.

I do think John gets more credit because he is deceased and somewhat immortalized. If Paul would have died in the early 80's and never released Silly Love Song or some of the cheesy 80's stuff - we'd probably look at him totally different. :)

Cuddly Knife
06-23-2005, 11:02 PM
Hmm, I think the Beatles blow. *dodges brick*

It must be because I was raised listening to anything but the Beatles. Zep, 80's hair metal, oldies(the Lowrider kind), and synth-pop. I didn't start listening to a wider selection of music until I started playing it, and then I had heard so much that was way more impressive, technically by the time the Beatles were introduced. My friends tried to get me into some of Ringo's finest works, but all I heard was a semi-decent drummer with a slight hesitation in his attack. Kind of like Max Weinberg.

It's not even good to get high to.

Brendon
06-24-2005, 05:22 AM
How has this list managed to get this far without a nod to Dookie, Green day's debut album, still a kick ass selection and imho the second best album ever after Appetite for Destruction (GnR greatest hits my ass)

As for the Beatles, they rock, and so does Elvis, Modern music would be nothing like today without them. Ringo is an annomoly though, I think he'll always be the voice of Thomas the Tank Engine to me, and to all kids of the eighties.

Fivespot
06-24-2005, 07:27 AM
Hmm, I think the Beatles blow. *dodges brick*

It must be because I was raised listening to anything but the Beatles. Zep, 80's hair metal, oldies(the Lowrider kind), and synth-pop. I didn't start listening to a wider selection of music until I started playing it, and then I had heard so much that was way more impressive, technically by the time the Beatles were introduced. My friends tried to get me into some of Ringo's finest works, but all I heard was a semi-decent drummer with a slight hesitation in his attack. Kind of like Max Weinberg.

It's not even good to get high to.

Thats quite a different opinion from most but I can respect that. I'm also into playing music and are a songwriter and can understand what you are saying. If you're more into technical music I suppose you'd prefer bands like Dream Theater, Yes, Phish, King Crimson, Rush, etc....

I have a different viewpoint however. One of the hardest lessons I ever learned as a musician is that technical abilities and good song writing are not one in the same. This is where the Beatles excel in my opinion. They are great song writers more concerned with writing a good song than they are showing off or performing technical feats. The Beatles were awesome, extremely talented musicians who chose not to perform over technically (although they have quite a fews songs that are very technical).

Ringo was the ultimate team player often taking a back-seat to the music by keeping his drumming very straight forward. He does have some good stuff, don't get me wrong.

Who are your favorite drummers? I like Danny Carrey (TOOL), Neil Peart (RUSH), Herb Alexander (PRIMUS) to name a few - sorry for mis-spelling a name or two on that drummer list.

The Prince of Darkness
06-24-2005, 11:03 AM
Hmm, I think the Beatles blow. *dodges brick*


In all of my years I don't think that I have ever heard anything even remotely close to that before. I have tried to say it several times today, and it will not even roll off the tongue.

Dude it's like Space Invaders. Without it you would not have Halo.

Gadfly2317
06-24-2005, 05:58 PM
This seems like a good time to ask you a couple things. I have really been digging Wilco and Sparklehorse---two bands that I read about in your posts. So far I have burned AM and A Ghost is Born by Wilco and Its A Wonderful Life and Vivadixiesubmarinetransmissionpilot by Sparklehorse. I absolutely love all of them, but are there any other must-haves in there?

Yeah, Wilco's Summer Teeth is their MUST HAVE album. Actually, it wouldn't be a bad idea to pick up the Uncle Tupelo anthology, just to kind of get an idea of how Jeff Tweady developed as a musician.


Last thing. Did you hear that Wilco on Six Feet Under a couple weeks ago. That show is too much with the cool music. In fact, that show just flat-out rules this season. It is just gut wrenching.

I haven't missed an episode since the series began. . . but. . . you're killing me dude. I'm not getting to see this season, and I know its the last one, but I'm in a complicated moving situation and no cable, and even though I might possibley have cable again by before the season ends, I'm just going to bury my head in the sand, not read about it, and watch it when it hits DvD, or if they run the season again. You're a fan too, so you've gotta know how bad this is sucking for me.


Ahh shzt, I'm reading the other posts now and can't believe I forgot Mike Patton. Glad to see a few other fans of his. I really dug Tomahawk and saw them open for Tool a few years back. I think I was the only one cheering for Tomahawk. Of course Patton three in his patented "I hate Milwaukee". Still love him however.

Tough to pick a fave of Mike Patton's work but would have to go with the first Bungle album. California would be my 2nd favorite Mr. Bungle album. Although Angel Dust rules, ever heard King for a Day, Fool for a Lifetime? That is a great Patton FNM. I love the way it covers so many different genres. I remember it getting bad reviews since it was all over the place which is precisely why I love it.

Have you hear Loveage (more great Patton)? Or the new Bjork where he appears on does a duet with her (if you can call it that). Bjork's newest is all vocals - no instruments. And Patton is one of the vocals. Have to hear it to fully appreciate it.

Haven't heard the last couple Fantomas albums. I only have the first 2 but like the 2nd with the Twin Peaks cover (AWESOME).

Ah. . . hard to pick the best bungle album, they are all so different. The second one was the most intersting stylistically. The first one is the most fun. California. . . I just don't know. I love the album, got to see them perform on the California tour, but it hasn't aged as well for me as the other two.

I know Tomahawk has caught on well enough, but I think Fantomas is by far the more intersting band. Especially the new album Suspended Animation. It's a masterpiece.

Loveage is ok, but its a novelty shtick that wears thin pretty quickly. Same with his recent collaboration with John Kaada called "Romances" (but still a fine album worth listening to.) The best recent Patton Colloboration (besides the 2 Bjork songs) is called "General Patton vs The Executions". . .its an album with him working with/against two turntablists. . the album was done via mail, sending stuff back and forth, and it is a solid, coherent work, totally twisting unexpected musical styles into something that could have easily been turned into formula rap-rock in less talented hands.

Yeah, the fact that theirs so many Patton fans among this particular group of gamers probably partially accounts for why I like VGR. Judging by what everyone has posted here, you're all as out there musically as you are with games. Hey, wait a minute. . . how come the only xbot to show up is PoD? :D

I'm wanting to know what someone who logs a thousand hours on Return to Caslte Wolfenstein likes to listen to when they aren't shooting germans. You know who you are!!!

Jupiter_x
06-24-2005, 09:07 PM
Really? Why? I personally think Scenes From A Memory shreds all other Dream Theater albums. It's the rockiness, isn't it? Mybe you liked the original keyboard player? I thought he was awesome... until I heard Jordan Rudess. Worst album has to be the one directly after... hmm, I can't remember the name of it, but it had Lines in the Sand and Hell's Kitchen. What are your favorite songs on Awake? Mine are Space-Dye Vest, Lie, Mirror, and the Silent Man. Not enought keyboards on that albom, IMO.


Kevin Moore...Simply amazing....Jordan?...Incredible...the greatest keyboard player ever!

Metropolis 2 is very cool. I found it a little on the depressing side though.

Falling into Infinity, IMO was a great CD but it was not very progressive....it seemed to be very radio friendly and the songs were shorter (except "Lines in the Sand" and uh....oh man...that last track...uh..."It's Raining in NYC")

Train of Thought is mind blowing, their heaviest, most intense, progressive disc to date. This one blew me away. Endless Sacrifice #1!

I still have to get used to Octavarium. So far it is pretty good!

Superjoint Ritual
06-25-2005, 09:59 PM
I love TRL and hate you all....

* Go's to Rocky Point Mexico, gets tanned, then gets kidnapped and shows up on Asian Gang-Bang porn ( recieving end :( ) Vol.3 ,all while listening to 50 Cent. *

College is great!

The Prince of Darkness
06-27-2005, 12:06 PM
Yeah, Wilco's Summer Teeth is their MUST HAVE album. Actually, it wouldn't be a bad idea to pick up the Uncle Tupelo anthology, just to kind of get an idea of how Jeff Tweady developed as a musician.

So Summer Teeth is the one to get? I will download it tonight. Have you checked out A Ghost is Born? It is hard to imagine that one is not their best. What about Sparklehorse? No additional recommendations?




I haven't missed an episode since the series began. . . but. . . you're killing me dude. I'm not getting to see this season, and I know its the last one, but I'm in a complicated moving situation and no cable, and even though I might possibley have cable again by before the season ends, I'm just going to bury my head in the sand, not read about it, and watch it when it hits DvD, or if they run the season again. You're a fan too, so you've gotta know how bad this is sucking for me.

Yeah sorry to do this to you, but this season of Six Feet Under is far and away my favorite. I liked the past seasons but did not put them in the same league with The Sopranos, Deadwood, and The Wire. This season is right up there with all of those.

Benjified
06-27-2005, 06:05 PM
Any pink floyd albumn really.

Cuddly Knife
06-27-2005, 09:11 PM
Thats quite a different opinion from most but I can respect that. I'm also into playing music and are a songwriter and can understand what you are saying. If you're more into technical music I suppose you'd prefer bands like Dream Theater, Yes, Phish, King Crimson, Rush, etc....
It's not that I'm that much into technical music, it's just that my musical life began with those kinds of bands. In my pup years, I was so eager to learn(self taught plus twenty or so hours with Jazz-man Chuck Krupa) and kick everyone's ass at my school, so naturally I wanted to hear only the most impressive of compositions to wow everyone. The double-bass prowess of Vinnie Paul. The perfect stick-handling of Neil Peart. The stick-twirls and upside-down trap-set of Tommy Lee. The stupid faces that Lars Ulrich made. And of course, everything about Mike Portnoy.

My musical life also started with having better technology to make music sound better. The production values that are put into music today are insane compared to what they could do in the past. I love layers. Pantera, Type O Negative, Messuggah, Dream Theater, have lots of layery goodness. It's like having to go back to Master System graphics after playing XBOX for a few years.

I guess you could say that flash motivated me back in the day.

I have a different viewpoint however. One of the hardest lessons I ever learned as a musician is that technical abilities and good song writing are not one in the same. This is where the Beatles excel in my opinion. They are great song writers more concerned with writing a good song than they are showing off or performing technical feats. The Beatles were awesome, extremely talented musicians who chose not to perform over technically (although they have quite a fews songs that are very technical).

Ringo was the ultimate team player often taking a back-seat to the music by keeping his drumming very straight forward. He does have some good stuff, don't get me wrong.

And as a more mature musician now, I realize that that's what it's all about. Before I took lessons from Chuck, I wanted to do nothing but shred, and leave people with a sour taste in their mouth from listening to what I thundered. That was pretty much the focus of my first band(original music, with a different cover each show), to play music that was so intense both musically and in stage performance. Out of a set list of over 40 songs(we'd change up the set list and size according to the show), we had about five that were ballad paced. Everything else could be moshed or hopped to. All five of us were over six feet, at over two-hundred pounds each except for me who is 185. Ballsy-er was better.

Anyways, Chuck introduced me to a few jazz musicians that really knew how to be a leader, but still allowed the band to grow beyond the limitations of it's head man(except for Buddy Rich, friggan grumpy old bastitch). They taught me to be a team player, and not to try and have the biggest d!ck in the house. They taught me to play what the rest of the band was playing, not to be in my own world. My band director used to call that noise. I called it being better than you. He was right.

I've also done a little bit of studio work, and that definitely showed me how to "take a back seat". But then again, I wasn't involved in the writing process like I was with my bands, so I'm not so sure yet that my ways have totally changed because the few other bands I've played in already had the parts made. I just Knifed them up a bit. Heh, heh. I know for sure that my writing style has changed, though. It's become more simplistic, but with more layers.

The past few years, I've pretty much shut myself away from listening to music in general, occasionally picking up something that might be a good hear, but as far as being influenced by modern musicians, I just don't have the patience to do it. When I hear music, I see how I could change it to suit me, instead of taking the best from it all and applying it to my musicality. I'm not refusing to grow, I'm just putting the energy into different areas of growth. Mind, body and spirit in harmony.

My focus went from wanting to make a living off of music, to wanting to be able to play what I want to play for the rest of my life. Be it in front of 2 people, or 20,00 people.

Who are your favorite drummers? I like Danny Carrey (TOOL), Neil Peart (RUSH), Herb Alexander (PRIMUS) to name a few - sorry for mis-spelling a name or two on that drummer list.
My favorite drummers are Vinnie Paul, Mike Portnoy, Prince, Simon Phillips, Dave Weckel, Nick Menza, Danny Carrey, Max Roach, Buddy Rich, Scott Rockenfield, Neil Peart, Paul Bostaph,

My drumming has also been influenced by artists like Mike Patton, Jaco Pastorius, Bela Fleck and the Flecktones, DCI from 1992-2001, Looney Toons, Joe Satriani and anything else that had a beat.

If I had to pick something that's influencing me right now, it would be electronica. Simple kick beats, complicated high-hats and cymbals, and cut-and-paste style of writing.