So, you want some Revolution info? (leak)

[Superjoint Ritual]

http://forums.e-mpire.com/showthread.php?t=30389

Basically, this guy claims to be a developer and has info on the revolution.

Here's the good stuff...

- The Revolution will be quite a bit more powerful than the 360.

- The Ps3 is, by far, the most powerful console of the three. ( 360 doomed? )

- The controllers will be gyro and presure sensitive. You'll just have to read this guy's description, it sound pretty f'ing cool, really.

- Voice Control will be the most advanced seen so far. He seemed really excited about this.

- He feels the online aspects of the revolution is by far, the most revolutionary aspect of the console.

- Capcom and Namco are sold on the console and are currently seeing what can be done with it.

- Square Enix is currently working on a game for the it, as well as several Ps3 titles.

- Mario will be a launch title.

- Retro is working on a "Halo-killer"... Ughh. :rolleyes:. But, he said it will be one of the best games at E3. So, we'll see.


A lot of this stuff sounds legit. But we'll find out at E3 since Nintendo has announced it will show the Revolution is some form. I think this makes the Revolution sound pretty intresting, but the Ps3 sounds like it's going to be a beast. :eek:

[theWacoKid]

I haven't written off revolution, but, I'm very skeptical. Nintendo's big problem in a nutshell, is that they fail miserably to use their console's power. They horribly underutilize the cube while sony manages to crank out more and more from the "aging" ps2 hardware.

We'll see something of what's in store soon. But, I'm in agreement with some aspects of the article. MS expects to take E3 by storm. I think they'll be in for a rude suprise. I think the revolution will be as powerful as the 360 at least and quite possibly more powerful. Nintendo along with IBM and ATI have had a much longer working relationship. MS jumped ship from intel and nvidia and now is going with different parties. They really had no choice but to go with ATI. Nvidia wouldn't have partnered with MS again if a gun had been put to their head. They made the xbox and MS basically looked to hose them on chip prices. I don't think anybody in the industry really wants to work with MS. This is not a company that understands anything about loyalty or long term relationships.

I hope nintendo does kick their butt. If they had in the last gen, you wouldn't even be looking at a 360. MS would have crawled up and gone home with their tales between their legs.

[Renzatic Gear]

I haven't written off revolution, but, I'm very skeptical. Nintendo's big problem in a nutshell, is that they fail miserably to use their console's power. They horribly underutilize the cube while sony manages to crank out more and more from the "aging" ps2 hardware.
That is kinda true. If it wern't for Resident Evil 4 (which I liked the look of so much I've copped a bit of for TDM) and the new Zelda, most people wouldn't think the GC was all that capable.

It's a huge shame. Imagine if Nintendo put as much effort into their graphics as MS did..it might've gotten more attention from the mainstream crowd.

[Jupiter_x]

http://forums.e-mpire.com/showthread.php?t=30389
A lot of this stuff sounds legit. But we'll find out at E3 since Nintendo has announced it will show the Revolution is some form. I think this makes the Revolution sound pretty intresting, but the Ps3 sounds like it's going to be a beast. :eek:


PS3 will be the beast! The Revolution is sounding cooler each passing day! The Rev will most likely be coupled with the PS3!

Now what to do with my PS2, GC (Platinum)and Xbox(Crystal) I guess it's back into the boxes and back into storage until they become rare finds for Ebay!

[Jupiter_x]

I don't think anybody in the industry really wants to work with MS. This is not a company that understands anything about loyalty or long term relationships.


Waco, rent a movie called "Pirates of Silicon Valley" This will show you just how "loyal" Microsoft really is!

Think about this:

In terms of Xbox, what is there that M$ can call their own? All the popular Xbox games are from other companies...this includes Halo!!! The Xbox itself is primarily made up of Intel, nVidia,Thomsan, Samsung, Maxtor parts!

What can M$ call thier own? a few crappy first party games and Windows!...wait....no...even Windows was a ripoff of the original GUI operating systems designed for the user friendly apple computers.....Pirates of Silicon Valley, Check it out!

[theWacoKid]

That's part of the problem I have with MS. They have a guns for hire mentality. They want to establish the standard and then clear out and let everyone pay them for the privilege of making games for the mighty xbox whatever. Pay them royalties for a system they will licence out to hardware companies, royalties to any software developer who wants to develop on said system and then hose them doubly with buggy development tools on their windoze environment. Yuckk!!! You know, the more I think about it, why would I even bother with MS if sony and nintendo are still around.

[theWacoKid]

Well, I've done some checking on this poster and I guess it's up in the air as to his legitimacy. He states people will find out for themselves come the 19th and so I guess, we will. Some intersting info. His overall take seems to be that Nintendo will see a spiritual rebirth come E3. That's' a tall order and you have to wonder if the leopard can indeed change his spots. He also said, that as a developer, he didn't care for MS forcing them to make games xbox live compatible and hd compatible. That was interesting to hear, because that would be my response as well if I were in development.

[Jupiter_x]

You know, the more I think about it, why would I even bother with MS if sony and nintendo are still around.

I have asked myself that same question!

Sony does it right, Their first party games are incredible, they are better than most 3rd titles on the PS2.
Same goes for Nintendo! Their first party titles are the bread and butter of the system, 3rd party games are still decent but still cannot compete, Excuding RE-4....wow!

M$= 2nd and 3rd party games are what drive the system and its popularity! Oh yeah and the fans are there to pimp these titles to the max! Lets pick a few: Splinter Cell CT, Doom 3, Halos!?!??!?!?!?!

[Superjoint Ritual]

Well, I've done some checking on this poster and I guess it's up in the air as to his legitimacy. He states people will find out for themselves come the 19th and so I guess, we will. Some intersting info. His overall take seems to be that Nintendo will see a spiritual rebirth come E3. That's' a tall order and you have to wonder if the leopard can indeed change his spots. He also said, that as a developer, he didn't care for MS forcing them to make games xbox live compatible and hd compatible. That was interesting to hear, because that would be my response as well if I were in development. Yeah, it does seem to be a little pro-Nintendo... But if this is a hoax, the guy sure did a good job making himself sound legit. Plus, with Nintendo saying there going to have the Revolution at E3, it really wouldn't make sence to make all this up. But if he is legit, I doubt Nintendo is too happy about this, considering how secretive the company is. I think this sounds a whole lot more legit than the whole megaton fiasco...

Regardless, it's still an interesting read. And like you said, we'll know by the end of E3.

[theWacoKid]

Yeah, it does seem to be a little pro-Nintendo... But if this is a hoax, the guy sure did a good job making himself sound legit. Plus, with Nintendo saying there going to have the Revolution at E3, it really wouldn't make sence to make all this up. But if he is legit, I doubt Nintendo is too happy about this, considering how secretive the company is. I think this sounds a whole lot more legit than the whole megaton fiasco...

Regardless, it's still an interesting read. And like you said, we'll know by the end of E3.

Well, keep in mind, this poster claimed he worked at NOA for five years before joining a third party developer, so a little pro-nintendo bias is to be expected. A lot of what he stated is not exactly news. There's already been reams of speculation regarding gyroscopic controls and pressure sensitive controls. Nintendo has stated in the past, that when they do online, they'll be doing it in a big way.

As I stated, Nintendo has had a working relationship with both IBM and ATI for several years now, so I don't see how MS is going to create a console with more power than the revolution. its quite likely nintendo's own input will benefit the final design, where with MS, I'm not seeing much beyond give us what you've got that's current and hot. MS is all about XNA, the hardware will be from a relative point, powerful, but mediocre in comparison. MS doesn't know jack about designing hardware. It's all design by committee. With sony you have an engineer at the helm in Ken Kutargi. With nintendo, both shig miyamoto and iwate are software designers who help shape the hardware from a game desinger's perspective. . With MS, you have "the committee". In other words, there is no personal touch, its just a bunch of guys in a boardroom, going we'll stick this in, we'll leave that out, that's it. Bunch of focus group testing, more multimedia pimpage a la media center, more xbox live customization, basically more of the same. Halo 2 in 720p basically sums up xbox 360. Apparently Pefect Dark will feature the largest number of players yet in a console shoot em up. Thrillsville, so if 15 other guys running around blastin away at you was tiresome, imagine the fatigue with 31 or 63 additional players. Like I said, xbox 360 will be the same ol xbox, just more of it, TMG should be in heaven. I'll be firmly asleep. I want a llitle more out of next gen than just that.

So, here's hoping that nintendo can actually deliver something that makes practical sense and deliver some novel but substantial gameplay features. If they do, it'll make for an interesting race. If it pans out like this dude says, the xbox 360 is definitely out for me. Same ol same ol in high def doesn't interest me.

[thelastword]

It was always on the cards that Nintendo would come up with something spectacular next gen, I always had a hunch that they would take the battle to Ms next gen and of course it appears that their machine is more powerful than Xbox 360 as well. I can appreciate Sony and Nintendo's approach up till E3 though, They're not randomly shooting their loads off like Ms and their vgr fanbase, they're taking a, we'll let our E3 presence do the all the talking. I think there has been much talk from Ms and their flock thus far, proof is only 12 days away.........

[theWacoKid]

Well, Matt over at IGN has written and it looks like Aries, the poster of said article is about as legit as a three headed hyena. This is what he wrote.

Aries

What's up with this? I got this off of the Broken Saints forums:
"Because I work for a developer, I am connected to many different people who know more than I do. We are all waiting for E3 like little kids wait for Santa Claus. Once it gets here, the flood gates will be opened. There are many sites and magazines out there that know a whole lot about what's going on, but they can't reveal it yet. For instance, Matt from IGN has a lot of details on Silicon Knights as well as their game. He just can't tell you guys yet."
So...you know but you can't tell us eh? Matt...what's up with that? And do you know this guy?

Matt responds: Oh yes, Aries. For people who haven't been following the avalanche of rumors being spread over at the Broken Saints message boards, here is a quick recap: a poster named Aries alleges he is a developer with all sorts of inside Revolution and next-gen information, and he's been posting sizeable chunks of it on a daily or weekly basis. He's written pages on various subjects and up until recently I've done my best to avoid it, but then a helpful IGN message boarder conveniently put together all of Aries' comments in one tidy thread, and I checked it over.

I guess lots of people have been waiting for me to comment on these posts and either qualify or disqualify the guy. So here it is. Everything he's said is true. Completely true. I can't believe he spilled it all already!

If you immediately stopped reading and raced to the message boards to post a "Matt Confirms!!!11" topic, you've really made a jackass out of yourself. Well done. If, on the other hand, you've continued reading, even better.

Honestly, this Aries guy is a fake. But I have to give to him: he's a pretty good one. He's definitely on top of the industry and some of his predictions -- guesses, even -- are logical. He's made an accurate guess or two about certain things not related to Revolution. And he remains just vague enough in most cases to perpetuate his credibility.

But he goes too far. The simple truth is that nobody in the industry, except for possibly Satoru Iwata, Shigeru Miyamoto and Genyo Takeda, could know as much about Revolution as this guy claims he does. I don't care if he worked for Nintendo of America for 30 years. Nobody at Nintendo of America, including the highest-ranking executive, has the kind of access Aries professes he does. Nobody. And I have enough contacts in the development industry to know that advanced Revolution hardware is not in high circulation. I mean, some of the biggest publishers out there have yet to receive any information on the platform. Trust me on this. Some of these outlandish claims Aries makes are just bogus. And that's really the biggest giveaway.

I'm sure some of you would love to believe the guy. He makes Nintendo look like gold. But don't. Wait a couple weeks for the real deal.

Then again, you never know, he could prove legit, after all being a game editor at IGN isn't necessarily like being on the inside, and contrary to what Matt has said, its been reported in the press that nintendo has sent out revolution development kits as opposed to Matt claiming the big publishers haven't even received info on them. And the whole idea, that you can develop a massive project in secret is borderline ridiculous and that nobody but the very top execs would know. The notion is preposterous. Tons of people are going to know all obviously under NDAs, but still, people have to know.