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Hieremias
01-06-2005, 09:56 AM
This has nothing to do with gaming, but it's fun. Let's, uh, keep the flaming down and just ridicule everybody equally, okay? I found <a href="http://www.moral-politics.com/">this quiz</a> while browsing the TTLG forums. Quite entertaining, you answer questions and it apparently tells you what part of the political spectrum you're in. Keep in mind that the title alone sort of hints that it's going to be left-leaning.
For me I guess it's reasonably accurate, except maybe the Nixon part. I don't know anything about Nixon other than that he screwed up at the end, I hope people don't equate me with that. :) I'm also not sure I agree with Bush fully 84% of the time, I think it's a tad lower, and I sure as hell don't see eye-to-eye with Nader 60% of the time.
Your Score
Your scored 2 on the Moral Order axis and -3 on the Moral Rules axis.
Matches
The following items best match your score:
1. System: Conservatism
2. Variation: Moderate Conservatism
3. Ideologies: Capital Republicanism
4. US Parties: Republican Party
5. Presidents: Richard Nixon (93.37%)
6. 2004 Election Candidates: George W. Bush (84.07%), John Kerry (77.47%), Ralph Nader (60.47%)
Okay so after I answered it truthfully, I went back and changed all the answers to try to be the biggest prick in the world. You know, the environment is a resource to be raped, other cultures are evil, me before anyone else, women are inferior, that sort of stuff. Here's the result:
Your Score
Your scored 4.5 on the Moral Order axis and -7.5 on the Moral Rules axis.
Matches
The following items best match your score:
1. System: Conservatism
2. Variation: Extreme Conservatism
3. Ideologies: Ultra Capitalism
4. US Parties: No match.
5. Presidents: George W. Bush (88.73%)
6. 2004 Election Candidates: George W. Bush (88.73%), John Kerry (58.90%), Ralph Nader (40.30%)
Ha ha!! The makers of this quiz aren't Bush fans. LOL
Hah, it labeled me a moderate socialist when I'm conservative. The problem with the quiz is that many of the choices are not mutually exclusive, some of the choices are apples and oranges, and some of them imply that you lean one way, when you really lean a different way when asked to elaborate on your answer. Also, applying a morality score to your answers is based on a biased opinion on what it means to be moral. How exactly are you more or less moral based on whether you think charity begins at home, or charity should be some socialist sponsored program? It's really just how you look at things.
To get an idea of the thought process behind the quiz, take the two question version and look at your results for each combineation of answers. For example, they think that being conservative means you have to believe that most or all people in the world are bad. Man, that's some skewed logic.
Eric-the-Red
01-06-2005, 02:08 PM
Here's my results:
Matches
The following items best match your score:
System: Conservatism
Variation: Economic Conservatism
Ideologies: Conservative NeoLiberalism
US Parties: Republican Party
Presidents: Ronald Reagan (95.06%)
2004 Election Candidates: George W. Bush (90.89%), John Kerry (69.30%), Ralph Nader (50.94%)
Overall pretty close (I do love Ronald Reagan), but I really am not much of a Bush fan honestly, so I'd argue with the 91% I got there.
Eric-the-Red
01-06-2005, 02:14 PM
Anyone notice this? Look at question six:
6. About men and women:
-Men and women are equal.
-Men and women are different.
-Men have moral authority over women.
-Men and women are different, but equal.
Does this really sound fair to you? There is no option for: "Women have moral authority over men." That means the makers of the test assumed that IF you were a bigot you would be anti-woman. What about people who are anti-man? And that's not the only thing; I'd say the whole test is pretty biased.
Suicides-by-Steve
01-07-2005, 05:14 AM
Your Score
Your scored -3 on the Moral Order axis and 2 on the Moral Rules axis.
About right here on the chart:
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Matches
The following items best match your score:
1. System: Socialism
2. Variation: Moderate Socialism
3. Ideologies: Social Democratism
4. US Parties: No match.
5. Presidents: Jimmy Carter (90.12%)
6. 2004 Election Candidates: Ralph Nader (86.02%), John Kerry (82.32%), George W. Bush (53.02%)
Statistics
Of the 17318 people who took the test:
1. 1% had the same score as you.
2. 10.3% were above you on the chart.
3. 78% were below you on the chart.
4. 73.2% were to your right on the chart.
5. 19.1% were to your left on the chart.
I truly believe in Socialism... I don't feel democracy really is working for us, and it's only spiralling out of control as the population booms, and poverty grows. It's pretty right on target for me...
People in this category will tend to have have balanced and moderate opinions about loosening the moral order (gay rights, ecology, drug legalization,...) and about expanding collective initiatives (social programs, industry regulation...).
Your Score
Your scored -1.5 on the Moral Order axis and 0 on the Moral Rules axis.
Matches
The following items best match your score:
System: Socialism, Liberalism
Variation: Moderate Socialism, Moderate Liberalism
Ideologies: Social Democratism, Capital Democratism
US Parties: Democratic Party
Presidents: Jimmy Carter (88.95%)
2004 Election Candidates: John Kerry (88.95%), Ralph Nader (79.63%), George W. Bush (63.76%)
Well, there you go, although I found many of the questions confusing or downright stupid - 'Success is finding your inner self'... eh?
Am I the only one who got Gerald Ford for president? I guess the survey thinks I'm clumsy. LOL!!
Hieremias
01-07-2005, 09:06 AM
Also, applying a morality score to your answers is based on a biased opinion on what it means to be moral. How exactly are you more or less moral based on whether you think charity begins at home, or charity should be some socialist sponsored program? It's really just how you look at things.
Well yeah, that's the problem. You can pretty clearly see the slant of the quiz writers. Obviously thinking that society should support every individual is, to them, the "moral route", as opposed to society fostering a fertile economic environment where individuals can support themselves.
Also the question about nature: I would argue that the options "Nature is something we must actively protect" and "Nature is an asset we must manage carefully" are the same thing when done properly. I only answered the second because I knew what angle they were aiming for (one is left, one is right).
My cousin also got Gerald Ford as her closest match. She has a masters in American history, she knows me pretty well, but she said I am not like Richard Nixon (even pre-Watergate). I figured I'd have been more like Reagan, and she agreed. My fiancee, who is self-admittedly as much a "right-wing nutjob" as I, got Bill Clinton as her closest match. Sheesh.
Suicides-by-Steve
01-07-2005, 04:11 PM
"I would argue that the options "Nature is something we must actively protect" and "Nature is an asset we must manage carefully" are the same thing when done properly."
I will argue that point! The first refers to protecting it, and not harnessing nature as a resource in any way, while the other refers to it as a resource, that can be exploited, albeit carefully, and with deliberate, strict guidelines.
Example, growing from the land to feed the people is acceptable, re-diverting rivers to build power generating dams is not in the first example. This would not hold true for the second statement, as long as the damage to the environment is not extreme.
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