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Glockstar
12-18-2004, 04:14 PM
I don't like this. I don't like this at all.

Take-Two helps Microsoft get out of sports game

Internal sports slate at Microsoft Game Studios is wiped clean as the Salt Lake City dev shop behind Links, Amped, and Top Spin is sold off.

The end of sports game development at Microsoft Game Studios is one that can now be viewed as having two last gasps. The first was the one felt when Microsoft laid off 76 employees attached to the NFL Fever, NHL Rivals, and Inside Drive teams in early August. The second came sometime within the last three months when the ink dried on a contract that saw Microsoft sell its Salt Lake City-based studio responsible for the Amped and Links sports franchises to Take-Two Interactive. The sale was revealed today during Take-Two's earnings call.

The studio also oversaw development of Top Spin by Paris-based studio Power and Magic Developments.

During today's call, Take-Two president Paul Eibeler confirmed that sometime during the August-September quarter, it purchased the Utah studio from Microsoft. He referred to the studio by its current name, Indie Built, and did not mention which of Take-Two's three subsidiaries--Rockstar Games, Gathering, or Global Star--would manage the studio.

Microsoft Game Studios Group PR manager Genevieve Waldman confirmed that the sale signified the end of internal sports-game development at Microsoft. However, she said the transaction has an upside for all parties, including Indie Built employees. "The reaction at Indie Built is positive," Waldman said. "They all became [Take-Two] employees."

As for the future direction on the studio, which numbered around 70 employees at the time of the sale, Waldman said, "We are well aware they may make games for other platforms , but it was the right thing for us both." For Microsoft, Waldman said, that means "positioning the Xbox for success and profitability."

With Take-Two's sports lineup sporting a hole in the area of football, questions surrounding how Indie Built talent might contribute to the company's sports lineup remain unclear. However, Eibeler did clarify during the earnings call that sports would have a meaningful presence in the future publishing plans of the company.

When asked, a Take-Two representative declined to comment on games in development at the studio. However, since the company has approximately 100 products in the production pipeline, it can safely be assumed it's tapping all available studios, including Indie Built, to those ends.

By Curt Feldman -- GameSpot
POSTED: 12/16/04 05:34 PM PST

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/12/16/news_6115224.html

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[B]Take-Two Picks Up Amped Team

The last of Microsoft sports development moves out.
By David Adams [IGN]

December 17, 2004 - During its earnings conference call on Thursday, Take-Two revealed that it acquired Microsoft's Salt Lake City-based developer Indie Built, creators of the Amped and Links Xbox sports franchises.

Take-Two's acquisition of the studio effectively closes Microsoft Game Studio's sports development force, a movement which began in August when Microsoft laid off 76 employees from its sports team.

A Take-Two representative confirmed that the transaction took place during the September-October period, and that there were no layoffs involved in the transfer. The Indie Built team is now part of Take-Two, not specifically tied to either the Global Star or Rockstar brands, and will continue to operate from its Salt Lake City office.

Take-Two is not revealing further details, such as what titles the team might develop for its new company, or for exactly which platforms. ...

http://xbox.ign.com/articles/574/574190p1.html

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Rogue Bounty Hunter
12-19-2004, 02:32 PM
Good move, M$. First party shouldn't be trying to make sports games anymore. Now it's time for Sony to sell off that crap developer known as 989 Sports.

As far as the three games, I don't really see Amped and Links contending with Tiger Woods and SSX series. Top Spin could do something, since there really isn't a lot of tennis games being made. This move still doesn't justify cutting Oddworld and Psychonauts while keeping Blinx, but M$ should concentrate on more non-sports exclusive games. That's why I see this being a good move.

ThaMaskedGamer
12-19-2004, 05:30 PM
Good move, M$. First party shouldn't be trying to make sports games anymore. Now it's time for Sony to sell off that crap developer known as 989 Sports.

As far as the three games, I don't really see Amped and Links contending with Tiger Woods and SSX series. Top Spin could do something, since there really isn't a lot of tennis games being made. This move still doesn't justify cutting Oddworld and Psychonauts while keeping Blinx, but M$ should concentrate on more non-sports exclusive games. That's why I see this being a good move.

Agreed! I hate the fact that it came to this. But it came to this because these franchises weren't exciting gamers, that's all there is to it really. I mean I really liked TopSpin, I never played Amped, but it looked quality, but neither games moved any units. And, then, people like Gadfly and Slade will say MS didn't take any risks. MS seems to have more failed franchises than anyone, and they usually stem from MS trying to branch off into sports, platforming, adventure type games.

I don't know what their overall strategy is. I'm sure they are going to make more games in genres that work on XBOX, like Forza and CloseCombat. But at the same time, this doesn't mean they have given up on other genres. Maybe they are just trying to find better franchises, like what RARE is doing with Conker. So, maybe they haven't given up, maybe they are getting wiser and more selective.

Glockstar
12-20-2004, 08:07 AM
I totally disagree.

Yes, MS (or Sony, or whomever) shouldn't even bother making sports games - like NFL football sims, NHL hockey sims, or NBA basketball sims - EA and Sega have those areas WELL covered, it's true. But non-sim sports games, or "sports" games like golf, tennis, and snowboarding?!? There's plenty of room for (the old) Blitz, Hitz, and Ballers. Plus, Tiger Woods sucks (it's no golf sim); what other tennis game is there for the XBox?!?; and without Amped we would be left with just SSX - and that's not good (even though 3 is a great game... a great arcade game, I should clarify).

Here's my thing, anytime a game is made by a third-party it has the potential to go multi-plat. And has been the case so often this gen, multi-plats get made for the PS2 first and foremost, then they are constructed for the XBox. I'm sorry, but I believe that it's because Links and Top Spin were tailor-made for the XBox that those games turned out so well. (It was not their exclusivity, in and of itself.) That might not happen next time.

Heck, regardless of whether they get shown the proper XBox lovin' development wise or not, their XBox exclusivity is almost assuredly over. I know you guys love your XBox as much as I do - you don't think that that alone sucks?

It's possible that I'm just worrying about nothing here - that nothing will change - but I doubt it.