MS planning to OffShore?

[E.T.]

Maybe you check in on the buisness side of PC tech now & then to have heard, & to some extent witnessed MS sending its tech service related jobs in record #'s overseas [from their corporate HQ in Wash. State USA to India].
Anyone know a MS worker [or a reliable source] that indicates the long term plans of MS is to ship 50% of its white collar tech & tech service jobs overseas by midyear 2005?

Did you [Americans] know that last year, 550 thousand white collar tech & tech service jobs were sent overseas?

The American BIG buisness community have cleverly hired independent firms to take care of the hiring/firing of tech workers. Its a win/win for big buisness; they dont take direct responsibility for loss of Amercian jobs, while profits grow from the sizeable reduction in payroll as a result of jobs being sent overseas.

OK, so this is more of RANT than RUMOR, but still, I would like to hear about MSs' plans to export jobs.

[Aku]

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It's not win-win. HP lost $50 million in their pc division this past quarter. Know why? They shipped their Australian tech support over to India to save the bucks. Guess what? The reliable Aussis techies were replaced by Indians who don't know the business and aren't providing good support. People have been calling HP screaming "Where are the Aussies, Carly?". Orders have been getting cancelled left and right, and new orders are declining.

Outsourcing overseas is the latest corporate gimmick to boost short-term profits, but at the expense of long-term stability. My company does it. We have a QA group over in India. They seem good at what they do, but they're halfway around the world, and since they don't know the business they can only communicate in bare bones technical terms, which is not good.

In the long run, American companies will suffer from this practice as quality goes down, social backlash builds, and the overall economy in this country suffers from increased unemployment - which translates into fewer domestic sales. American companies will learn the hard way that improving the bottom line isn't just about cutting costs.

[E.T.]

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I think outsorcing is more than a gimmick for the tech sector in the US, I thinks its a trend. I say this based on US buisness practices post WW2 ["Nation building Japan/West Germany] to export manufacturing jobs.
Manufacturing jobs in US [whats left of them] have left in droves over last 20 years. Its not just the jobs lost, but major capitial has been spent overseas building production plants & infastructure needed to support these operations.
Part of US export work is a good thing, especially when its kept on the North American continent [Canada & Mexico] This inhances neighborly contacts. Canada & Mexico have been building/manufacturing for GM & Ford since I can remember.
Agree 100% that some buisnesses will incur a "social backlash" for outsourcing, but I think it will be too little too late...Americans are pacifists & wont respond till their own individual families are affected by job loss.

Amercian Pres Regan said in the 80's regaradng outsourcing of US manufacturing..."US will become a service based economy"...what I see thats left are the finacial institutions & Burger King....

Im reading now [todays paper] about MS's current goal of outsourcing tech jobs [headers posted on office memos "outsource one job daily"]
tel me that their will be a reduction of millionaires in Redmond Wash, US , MS headqtrs.


I wonder if any other countries outsource the large percentage of service based jobs that the US does, after all it supossed to be a "world economy" not a US funded economy...LOL!

[mike009]

The last company I worked for tried outsourcing a project to an East Indian consulting company. The code they wrote was about 10% usable - 90% was thrown out. Basically, we came to the conclusion that, even if the US outsources tech jobs, the jobs will be relatively mundane tasks. You'll need integration specialists that understand the intricities of American English, customs and business practices to put together a successfull project.

I heard another point that the laws in India say that if an employee works for you six months, then he is tenured and you have to pay them more with extra restrictions.

[Suicides-by-Steve]

<div class=\"smallfont\">integration specialists that understand the intricities of American English, </div>

LOL I take it you're NOT a Localization Specialist yourself then!!? :D Oh classic stuff.