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Darwin
11-09-2003, 10:18 AM
I've put in about 4 hours total into the new True Crime. The overall impression I'm getting is that this game is better than average, but certainly not great. It's got some good ideas, but it's lacking in variety, pacing of the story, and slow control response.

The overall feeling of playing True Crime is that it's clunky. It doesn't flow well, neither the game's progression nor the controls (or, the response of Nick to your controller input). First of all, the story is really broken up between loading screens. The actual story events are short lived (at least from the first two chapters I've played), leaving you little time to really understand or even care about what's happening. And the story elements aren't linked together in a nice way. For example, you drive to this location, go to the triangle icon, it then loads the little scenario inside. You then fight one guy and hear a few lines of dialogue ... then loading screen again.

The controls are also clunky. With most actions, there is a small delay between pressing the button and Nick performing the action, especially with fighting. This makes the fighting aspect of the game pretty weak. Also, there are some small collision detection issues when fighting ... sometimes Nick won't make contact with his opponent, especially when trying to use the X button (the grappling maneuver). Collision detection issues come up again when trying to cuff some perps, as you'll find yourself realligning Nick to finally get him to do the cuffing animation. Getting in and out of vehicles is slow and delayed ... and it takes several seconds for Nick to finally get moving after he's gotten out of the car, which is really annoying when you need to get out and chase a perp on foot.

There is also a lack of variety to your actions in the game. You have two main things you do: drive and fight. Within an hour, you'll start to see how all the Random Missions are really just an assortment of a few types of crimes, recycled over and over. Even the events in the story line are the same thing that you're doing in random missions.

To it's credit, True Crime does have a rather sophisticated control scheme and it's well done (at least in theory). Rather innovative in that you can switch stances on the fly (fighting, shooting, and normal mode). The problem is the delay in the controls ... getting Nick to do what you want in a timely fashion.

The driving is very arcade like. Cars demonstrate a lot of understeer and are kinda hard to turn (the opposite of Grand Theft Auto's oversteering, hyper-responsive cars). There are a good variety of cars, and they each have different handling characteristics. But since there isn't much incentive to drive around and explore, all this space seems to be wasted. The actual car chases are rather shallow, with AI demonstrating horrible driving abilities. I guess this is to always allow you to catch them. But even then, the car chases are monotanous. Chase car till within shooting range, game autoaims, you shoot with infinite ammo till enemy car is weakened, the perp gets out, and then either runs or gives up. You then get out and chase on foot. There seems to be no other way to get the enemy car to stop other than shoot it.

Add to this the annoying auto-save system. Nope, you cannot save whenever you want. It is only at certain spots in the game. Oh, and I've gotten run over by traffic so many times, it's really starting to piss me off (which incidently doesn't hurt you at all).

Rent before buying is my advice.

Darwin
11-09-2003, 10:23 AM
And I forgot to mention the freezing problem and very long load times that some gamers are having with the Xbox version. Check out gamefaqs.com and see what some of the gamers are saying. Some gamers have experienced multiple freezes/crashes with their game.

I myself have experienced problems. I first played it in my launch Xbox, in which loading the first cutscent took over a minute long. I then switched over to my newer Xbox and it loaded faster ... however, it then froze on me about an hour into the game and I had to reset from the last auto-save.

Tappy_Tibbons
11-09-2003, 11:32 AM
Don't render a final judgement until you have earned ALL driving, shooting, and fighting skills because once you do and finish the game, the random crimes will keep you occupied.

Rogue Bounty Hunter
11-10-2003, 07:27 AM
I thought True Crime was also good, but not great, after playing it. It controls way better than The Getaway, and that was what I compared it to. I really didn't like the fact that you couldn't save anytime you want. It wouldn't have been so bad if there were other ways to save instead of going to a mission or a training facility. It froze up on me just once, though. After playing it for a couple of days, I couldn't get back into it, so I returned it for the upcoming Prince of Persia (Xbox). I may pick up TC sometime when there are few games being released.

Exotic200
11-11-2003, 06:55 AM
This game is outta control. Darwin has a decent point or 2 especially about the load times which considering the X-Box is a little disappointing. I also managed to stamp out a review 4 this so check it out and tell me what u think.

Darwin
11-12-2003, 10:47 AM
I've played through another couple of hours and still have mixed reactions to the game. The flow of the game is still too predictable and chopped up into very small segments. I'm adding a few new moves and got a new gun, but the gameplay is not progressing like it should. The game is not hooking me ... I still don't feel that involved in the character's role that he's playing. Why can't we see deeper gameplay, especially in respects to the main missions. Each little part of the main story is broken up into 2-3 minute little bites and doesn't seem to flow into the next segment well. For a game that has rendered this many blocks of LA City, the indoor and main story based missions seem very small and limited. How can game designers spend so much time on creating such a large immersive and detailed city, yet skimp on several important gameplay aspects?

It's kinda like with Sega GT 2002. Sega put a lot of good work into the physics and car handling as well as created a large and diverse lineup of cars and parts ... but all that is diluted out by the lackluster tracks. How could Sega invest that much time and energy into the cars and leave almost nothing for the tracks?

Rogue Bounty Hunter
11-12-2003, 07:58 PM
In the end (of me giving the game a chance), True Crime just didn't hook me either. With other good games coming out I'm interested in, it's hard to keep a title knowing I can still return it for full credit.

Tappy_Tibbons
11-12-2003, 09:38 PM
All in all, I've already loaned it out. It was short and it does have some hellacious load screens.

Rogue Bounty Hunter
11-13-2003, 05:24 AM
Tappy,


Do you thnk Driver 3 has a chance of being better than True Crime? What about Mafia?

Darwin
11-13-2003, 03:53 PM
Wow, I cannot even complete the game. I missed one mission because after 20+ retries I could not figure out what to do. That was the one where you had to take out those guys chasing you. Well, I did, except the driver won't get out of his car. I blow up their car (which should kill the driver), but he is still alive because my targetting reticule is on him. The car is stopped (because it's blown up), my targetting reticule is on the driver (who is clearly alive since he's still pointing his gun) ... but the driver won't get out and I cannot shoot the driver through the car window (bullets won't go through the car windows). So after the 20th retry I gave up. This then put me on the path of the "bad ending" (which the game actually names "bad ending" verses "good ending" to make things very simply for us gamers.)

Well, now in chapter 5, there is this impossible hostage situation mission. I have retried it about 50 times (and that is not an exageration). There is no possible way to get through this mission. I have tried every possible strategy. Going slow, going fast. Auto-targetting verses Manual aiming, verses both. Slow motion diving. Non of it is working at all. Taking damage from enemies is completely unavoidable and seems to be random. I showed no progress each time I retried, as I would die in random places each attempt. The controls are unresponsive, so I cannot properly target/allign Nick, nor can I get the camera to work properly. And, the manual targetting seems to work only some of the time (there are times I have the red-reticule and the bullet misses). The game has also locked up on me in the middle of the mission a couple of times. And then, when you retry, you're treated to a lengthy load screen (even though the map is small and the mission relatively short, the game has to reload everything). I'm sure that if given enough attempts, that someone could, by luck, eventually get past this mission. But there is absolutely no skill or strategy to complete this mission. And the game gives you no real tools to deal with the enemies (because of the crappy controls and camera). Why bother?

Overall, my rating of True Crime is a 2 out of 5. Because of the poorly designed missions, the loading screens, the lock-ups, the delayed and clunky controls, the lack of well ballanced gameplay, the tiresom and repetative nature of the missions and random missions, the poorly implemented fighting, the broken-up story ... it has turned out to be a serious dissapointment. 6 hours of my life wasted.

Tappy_Tibbons
11-14-2003, 02:57 PM
I'd give True Crime a 3 out of 5. THe first day with it I would have given it 5 of 5 but after only about a week of constant play I got sick of it and traded in for the GTA pack. GTA is much better of a game. True Crime may have a few things on GTA(gunplay and fighting still a lot better in TC), but GTA is tried and true. I was actually suprised at the upgrades in the game, it's much better than the PS2 version.

Rogue Bounty Hunter
11-16-2003, 08:14 PM
<div class=\"smallfont\">I'd give True Crime a 3 out of 5. THe first day with it I would have given it 5 of 5 but after only about a week of constant play I got sick of it and traded in for the GTA pack. GTA is much better of a game. True Crime may have a few things on GTA(gunplay and fighting still a lot better in TC), but GTA is tried and true. I was actually suprised at the upgrades in the game, it's much better than the PS2 version.</div>

I would have given it a 5 out of 5 on the first day also. Good thing I don't do user reviews.

I wouldn't mind getting the Double Pack, but I already have the games on PS2 :( , and I was told I would only get $3 trade credit on GTAIII.

Exotic200
11-23-2003, 12:32 AM
I have a confession to make....I gave TC a premature rating in the review I posted. Now that I've logged more hours into it I've come to the conclusion that this game pretty much sucks. It's that classic "flash-in-the-pan" syndrome that we see much too often. Great game for the first few hours or so and then **SPLAT** it bottoms out. The game gets repetative way too fast then it should considering the genre (or should I say "attempt" at genre), you can order pizza wait for it to be delivered AND eat between missions. I actually had one mission (I think it's Episode 3) that requires you to outrun/evade a car full of Russian Hitmen that actually took me NO LIE 7 seconds to beat. I mean c'mon on when you wait 3-4 minutes for a mission to load that takes you less than 10 seconds to complete is way beyond horrific. The whole reason I boughtTC is because I can't buy the GTA pack since I know my wife is getting it for me for X-Mas and I thought this would tie me over seeing how it was slated to be "The GTA Killer". This game didn't last me a week and I'm already counting the days until I'm off so I can dump this piece of crap on someone else's unsuspecting lap. Please do yourself a favor and rent this the flavor MAY last that long.

Tappy_Tibbons
11-23-2003, 06:42 PM
I think Driver 3 could be something special. Only time will tell...

Tappy_Tibbons
11-23-2003, 06:47 PM
I think Driver 3 could be something special. Only time will tell...

Rogue Bounty Hunter
11-25-2003, 06:04 AM
<div class=\"smallfont\">I think Driver 3 could be something special. Only time will tell...</div>

When does Driver 3 come out, next April?