GC 2nd in US, and PS2 price cuts in Japan.

[Gadfly2317]

Info from Yahoo Finance! (reported at Nintendojo)

Market Share for GameCube Doubles

As I'm sure you're all aware already, ever since Nintendo made the announcment that GameCube would receive a new MSRP of $99.99 the GameCube has seen more than quadrupled sales. Yahoo! Finance is reporting today that not only has the sales figures grown exponetially but Nintendo has also grabbed 18 points of market share from Sony and Microsoft. Sales figures gathered from the largest retailers show that Nintendo GameCube has nearly doubled its market share from 19 percent to 37 percent. GameCube is now in 2nd place in the U.S. market as it challenges for leadership during the important holiday sales season.

GameCube sales are up 2 percent, Xbox has dropped 3 percent, and PlayStation 2 sales have dropped 17.5 percent.

Source: Yahoo! Finance


Also, in other news, PS2 is dropping the price of the PS2 20% in Japan. This was also reported at Yahoo Finance! today.

[trebor]

That is really good news.

But what makes me the most excited is waiting for resident Xboyz explain to everyone that the North American market doesn't "count" and therefore it isn't important that the Xbox is in last place.

Although I'm sure MASSive Bore will interject that it probably just this quarter that the GC is beating Xbox, but the total user base is still larger for Xbox in the U.S.

[The Prince of Darkness]

<div class=\"smallfont\">That is really good news.

But what makes me the most excited is waiting for resident Xboyz explain to everyone that the North American market doesn't "count" and therefore it isn't important that the Xbox is in last place.

Although I'm sure MASSive Bore will interject that it probably just this quarter that the GC is beating Xbox, but the total user base is still larger for Xbox in the U.S.</div>

I will interject. Number one---I am sure that the total user base is still higher for Xbox in NA. It had a 1.5 million lead from the last NPD numbers. Second, you guys should have listened to me when I said that the only thing that the GC had going for it over the holiday season were the price drop, Mario Kart, Viewtiful Joe, and a couple multiplats. So...stop patting yourself on the back when the real reason for the sales increase is on the merits of a lame price drop and not on the holiday lineup. Everyone knows which system has the best lineup. 'Tis the season.

[trebor]

I will interject. Number one---I am sure that the total user base is still higher for Xbox in NA. It had a 1.5 million lead from the last NPD numbers. Second, you guys should have listened to me when I said that the only thing that the GC had going for it over the holiday season were the price drop, Mario Kart, Viewtiful Joe, and a couple multiplats. So...stop patting yourself on the back when the real reason for the sales increase is on the merits of a lame price drop and not on the holiday lineup.

Blah, blah and, yes, more blah.

Everyone knows which system has the best lineup.

Yeah, the Gamecube. What's your point?

OHHH...I get it - you were refering to the Xbox lineup, weren't you? Funny how that kind of thing is really just a matter of opinion, and therefore, not anything tangible to use as system wars ammo. Sorry, try again.

[mass]

That is really good news.

But what makes me the most excited is waiting for resident Xboyz explain to everyone that the North American market doesn't &quot;count&quot; and therefore it isn't important that the Xbox is in last place.

Although I'm sure MASSive Bore will interject that it probably just this quarter that the GC is beating Xbox, but the total user base is still larger for Xbox in the U.S.

Thanks, trebore, but I'll actually wait for the trsts figures to release. Amazing how pathetic nintendo fans can be, any small bit of positive news and they whip out the nintendo rallly towels and begin waving them. Total user base for the xbox is larger in NA by a considerable margin, and it's a lead that will take a long while to overcome by the gc, if ever. And, I'm still not sure what difference it will make anyway. Hardware figures are nice but unless that translates to software sales, it all beomes meaningless. At this point in time, nobody's catching sony, for most NA third party developers the no. 2 choice is self-evident. What nintendo is doing, is damage control. Trying to get the hardware numbers up to show third parties they're serious to keep more from bailing out on titles.

Part of the problem for nintendo is where are these sales coming from. From guys who already own a ps2 or xbox or both. When it comes to multi-platform titles, there really is very little reason to go cube. About the only cube advantage appears to be short load times. So, basically these guys won't help the third party cube situation. There's the new buyer, who was either too cheap to upgrade from their n64 or someone totally new to vidgames. These guys are going to be shelling out big money on $49 games? I don't think so. These are bargain shoppers looking for bargain prices. At this juncture in the road, you run into the law of diminishing returns. The launch guys are the guys with large gaming libraries. The new guys pick up a couple of titles and rent. These holds true for the other systems as well. The patterns that have been established will be very hard for nintendo to break at this point.

It'll be interesting to see those nintendo profit figures for the upcoming quarter and see if nintendo is still singing the same tune, namely, "We don't sell our hardware at a loss."

[Gadfly2317]

One thing that's clear is that PS2 is slowing down drastically. . . it has sold through. And its been out awhile. And as all of us know, no matter how many games your favorite system has, its always fun to pick up another system. Much of the Ps2 herd will be getting another system this year.

I have no doubt that the PS2 user base is looking at the grass on the otherside of the fence, and at $99 dollars, and with Metroid, Zelda, Mario Kart, Viewtiful Joe and many many other Nintendo first party games, the GC is going to just keep right on kicking the xbox all over the neighborhood.

[The Prince of Darkness]

<div class=\"smallfont\">Blah, blah and, yes, more blah.



Yeah, the Gamecube. What's your point?

OHHH...I get it - you were refering to the Xbox lineup, weren't you? Funny how that kind of thing is really just a matter of opinion, and therefore, not anything tangible to use as system wars ammo. Sorry, try again.</div>

Oh well I guess I can't win this one so I will just have to bask in the fact that I get to go home and play Crimson Skies tonight and you don't. The future is so bright I gotta wear shades.

[thug]

Who cares. Anyone who follows gaming news could tell you that Nintendo has been jumping up and down and announcing to the world everytime something goes right for the Cube. After the price cut in the UK they were all excited about selling more units that Microsoft, then MS released the Halo/Midtown Madness 3 bundle (at the same price) and the sales split swung in favor of the Xbox even worse than before. How embarrassing?
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?section_name=ret&aid=2511

Don't worry, Nintendo is planning on giving away every trick up it's sleeve to try not to lose anymore ground.
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?section_name=ret&aid=2491

Nothing like pissing everyone off who just bought a price reduced GC. If this doesn't work, nothing will.

I expect something similar to happen in North America.

[trebor]

Oh well I guess I can't win this one so I will just have to bask in the fact that I get to go home and play Crimson Skies tonight and you don't. The future is so bright I gotta wear shades.

Well, that's okay with me - I'm going to be busy watching Soprano's tonight to play games. Although, if I do end up having time, I'll play Rebel Strike - so no Crimson Skies is necessary.

You know...there is a whole world of things to do aside from just playing videogames...

[tekbit]

Hmph, well it seems that everyone who had doubts of Sony and MS having to drop their prices too, can shut the hell up. As it seems each day the evidence becomes clearer and clearer that they will eventually have to follow suit in the US. Yippy! As soon a Sony does (and I can say that now) I'm sold. And if Sony drops the price, Xbox will be forced to as well.

[The Buzz]

<div class=\"smallfont\">That is really good news.

But what makes me the most excited is waiting for resident Xboyz explain to everyone that the North American market doesn't "count" and therefore it isn't important that the Xbox is in last place.

Although I'm sure MASSive Bore will interject that it probably just this quarter that the GC is beating Xbox, but the total user base is still larger for Xbox in the U.S.</div>

If MS drops the price of the Xbox Nintendo's in deep doo doo! MS is after more than just it's share of the current console market...if you've been paying attention to the news around the web then you know Nintendo is VERY aware of this fact and it makes them more than just a little nervous.
The price drop is merely damage control on Nintendo's part everyone knows that. If the Cube was selling up to expectations it wouldn't be $99.00. Whatever...not my problem.

To me...Game Cube's line-up is by far the weakest of the three "current" consoles. With the exception of a half dozen first party titles I've little interest in Nintendo's little purple box. You think GC's the best...GREAT...that's all that's really important then right? Too you anyway...happy gaming fellow player!

I'll be looking forward to playing PS2 and Xbox games like FFX2, GT4, Crimson Skies, Top Spin, GTA/DP, Kameo, Morrowind GOTY...most all the Xbox version "cross" console games...there's just too many to list let alone make time to play...DAMN!

[Gadfly2317]

<div class=\"smallfont\">Hmph, well it seems that everyone who had doubts of Sony and MS having to drop their prices too, can shut the hell up. As it seems each day the evidence becomes clearer and clearer that they will eventually have to follow suit in the US. Yippy! As soon a Sony does (and I can say that now) I'm sold. And if Sony drops the price, Xbox will be forced to as well.</div>

I hope they drop the price before the end of november. . . Best Buy where I got my xbox said if there was a price drop within 30 days of purchase, I could bring in the receipt and they'd refund the difference. Then I can buy another game!

[trebor]

If MS drops the price of the Xbox Nintendo's in deep doo doo! MS is after more than just it's share of the current console market...if you've been paying attention to the news around the web then you know Nintendo is VERY aware of this fact and it makes them more than just a little nervous.
The price drop is merely damage control on Nintendo's part everyone knows that. If the Cube was selling up to expectations it wouldn't be $99.00. Whatever...not my problem.

Actually, if you were paying attention to the news around the web, you would have learned that the Gamecube has nearly doubled it's marketshare and overtaken the Xbox in N.American and overall, compared to 2002, Gamecube sales are up and PS2 and Xbox sales are down.


To me...Game Cube's line-up is by far the weakest of the three &quot;current&quot; consoles. With the exception of a half dozen first party titles I've little interest in Nintendo's little purple box. You think GC's the best...GREAT...that's all that's really important then right? Too you anyway...happy gaming fellow player!

Okay.


I'll be looking forward to playing PS2 and Xbox games like FFX2, GT4, Crimson Skies, Top Spin, GTA/DP, Kameo, Morrowind GOTY...most all the Xbox version &quot;cross&quot; console games...there's just too many to list let alone make time to play...DAMN!

Ummm....okay then.

[The Prince of Darkness]

<div class=\"smallfont\">[QUOTE=trebor]Actually, if you were paying attention to the news around the web, you would have learned that the Gamecube has nearly doubled it's marketshare and overtaken the Xbox in N.American and overall, compared to 2002, Gamecube sales are up and PS2 and Xbox sales are down.



True, true, true but I think the point is that anyone can give their sales a nice push with a price drop. In fact I will bet that the Xbox will get a nice push if MS drops the price too. You can practically bank on that Trebor.

[trebor]

True, true, true but I think the point is that anyone can give their sales a nice push with a price drop. In fact I will bet that the Xbox will get a nice push if MS drops the price too. You can practically bank on that Trebor.

Hmmm...yes, but what you can't bank on is if M$ is willing to drop the price at all. They already lose so much money every time someone buys an Xbox, I would figure that they would be willing to lose a little more, if it spurs sales. If any company can afford to continue throwing money away, it's M$.

But they haven't - go figure.

[Cuddly Knife]

<div class=\"smallfont\">Hmmm...yes, but what you can't bank on is if M$ is willing to drop the price at all. <b>They already lose so much money every time someone buys an Xbox</b>, I would figure that they would be willing to lose a little more, if it spurs sales. If any company can afford to continue throwing money away, it's M$.
</div>
I have a noob-ish question(s). What is it that's making the XBOX lose cash on evey system sold? Is it the hard drive? Why isn't the PS2 losing the same amounts of cash?

[The Prince of Darkness]

<div class=\"smallfont\">Hmmm...yes, but what you can't bank on is if M$ is willing to drop the price at all. They already lose so much money every time someone buys an Xbox, I would figure that they would be willing to lose a little more, if it spurs sales. If any company can afford to continue throwing money away, it's M$.

But they haven't - go figure.</div>


They are going to have to. I mean I would definately buy an Xbox if I was in the market simply based on the holiday lineup, but not everyone sees it that way. Some people need more "incentive" in the form of price drops. As far as the MS losing money goes I will quote one of our generation's great minds...blah, blah, blah. We all know by know that MS has windows to carry the Xbox and that Nintendo has the GB Advance to carry the GC(good thing too...in both cases).

[trebor]

I have a noob-ish question(s). What is it that's making the XBOX lose cash on evey system sold? Is it the hard drive? Why isn't the PS2 losing the same amounts of cash?

Well, the sum of the parts that make up the Xbox are more than what the whole is sold for - according to popular theory. It's not just the hard drive, but the hard drive, graphics engine, ethernet, DVD playback, sound chip, and so on and so forth. Or in other words, the cost of production is higher than the retail cost.

As far as the PS2 is concerned, and my limited understanding of the workings of the Sony corporation, the parts that are in the PS2 are "homemade", so to speak, and therefore are cheaper then buying parts from manufacturers at a higher cost. Plus the lack of a harddrive, ethernet and generally less functionality also is a factor.

[trebor]

They are going to have to. I mean I would definately buy an Xbox if I was in the market simply based on the holiday lineup, but not everyone sees it that way. Some people need more "incentive" in the form of price drops. As far as the MS losing money goes I will quote one of our generation's great minds...blah, blah, blah. We all know by know that MS has windows to carry the Xbox and that Nintendo has the GB Advance to carry the GC(good thing too...in both cases).

I would definitely put myself in the "need more incentive" group as far as buying an Xbox is concerned. I'll wait for some kind of price drop before I consider buying one.

Not because I'm a cheapass, I could buy one today if I wanted - hell I could buy 10 if I really wanted to, but that isn't the point. Us informed types know that the next round of consoles is coming out late 2005 or 2006. So to pay several hundred dollars knowing that it has less than a two year lifespan at this point is not really worth it.

Now if M$ was putting out a bundle that I couldn't refuse, that is another story.

[The Buzz]

<div class=\"smallfont\">Actually, if you were paying attention to the news around the web, you would have learned that the Gamecube has nearly doubled it's marketshare and overtaken the Xbox in N.American and overall, compared to 2002, Gamecube sales are up and PS2 and Xbox sales are down.



Okay.



Ummm....okay then.</div>

Well...let's see shall we...The Xbox lead in North America was a million and a half units a month ago...so that would mean for GC to over take Xbox it must have sold more than that in that amount of time...

So...your telling me GC sold say...1.6 MILLION more units in North America since the price drop than Xbox...yeah...OK! Doesn't make sense to me either.

Funny how sticking up for a gaming campany can blind people...they only see what they want to see, taking things out of context whenever it suits their needs. Anyway...

I know how seriously many of you people around here take this "System Wars" stuff...I don't really care about ANY of this stuff to be honest but it's a great little diversion from the rigor's of the job and I do enjoy gaming so very much. Just to come here and read what many of you have to say about things is a hoot! If I had the ambition I'd write a book...there's plenty of material on the gaming sites I visit to make quite the entertaining read.

I must be an Xbox loving...Nintendo hating...SOB right? Well what do I know or care what you people think...I'm currently 45 hours into FFX, (gotta beat the Sanctuary Keeper tonight) playing SSX3 on my Xbox and played some Battle Tanx Global Assault on the old N64 this past Sunday morning. I'll get a GC eventually too! SO THERE!!!

[trebor]

Well...let's see shall we...The Xbox lead in North America was a million and a half units a month ago...so that would mean for GC to over take Xbox it must have sold more than that in that amount of time...

So...your telling me GC sold say...1.6 MILLION more units in North America since the price drop than Xbox...yeah...OK! Doesn't make sense to me either.

Nobody is saying that. What we ARE saying is that the pricedrop has increased sales for the GC so much that it is currently 2nd best selling system in the U.S.


Funny how sticking up for a gaming campany can blind people...they only see what they want to see, taking things out of context whenever it suits their needs. Anyway...

Well, it seems like your the only one taking things out of context. Cubers know what's up and how things are - it's the Xboyz® who can't stand to hear that their system of choice is being beaten by a "Kitty" console.


I know how seriously many of you people around here take this "System Wars" stuff...I don't really care about ANY of this stuff to be honest but it's a great little diversion from the rigor's of the job and I do enjoy gaming so very much. Just to come here and read what many of you have to say about things is a hoot! If I had the ambition I'd write a book...there's plenty of material on the gaming sites I visit to make quite the entertaining read.

I hang here because my job is boring and I like to argue about videogames. Pretty straightforward. Plus some of the regulars around here are pretty cool.


I must be an Xbox loving...Nintendo hating...SOB right? Well what do I know or care what you people think...I'm currently 45 hours into FFX, (gotta beat the Sanctuary Keeper tonight) playing SSX3 on my Xbox and played some Battle Tanx Global Assault on the old N64 this past Sunday morning. I'll get a GC eventually too! SO THERE!!!

You should get a Gamecube, the price is certainly right. If stupid M$ would lower the price of the Xbox, I'd probably buy one of those.

[Gaming Geezer 78]

Nobody is saying that. What we ARE saying is that the pricedrop has increased sales for the GC so much that it is currently 2nd best selling system in the U.S.

Well, it seems like your the only one taking things out of context. Cubers know what's up and how things are - it's the Xboyz® who can't stand to hear that their system of choice is being beaten by a "Kitty" console.

Actually, Nintendo fanboys & Nintendo themselves are running with misleading information. It is a farce that Gamecube sold over 1.6 million systems in one month. THAT is what Nintendo and Nintendo-fanboys are trying to say. The fact of the matter is that for the MONTH of October, Gamecube accounted for 38% of console sales. FOR OCTOBER.

Gamecube does not hold 38% of the total console market in North America.

Gamecube is not the #2 system in North America. Xbox is. By over 1.5 million systems I might add.

But interestingly enough, PS2 sales have slowed while Gamecube and Xbox have been eating away at Sony's sales. PS2 once held a commanding 60+ percent of the US console market. Though they are still way ahead of both Microsoft and Nintendo, that marketshare for PS2 is down around the 50% range now.

[Glockstar]

<div class=\"smallfont\">If stupid M$ would lower the price of the Xbox, I'd probably buy one of those.</div>

Don't bother.
The XBox isn't for you.

The XBox is for real gamers.
The system would go to waste in the hands of little brownie hounds, like yourself, who only buy, like, 3 new games in a given year. Just keep playing with your toy there, kitty.

Boy, I almost can't wait for Mario Kart Double Ass to show up, at this point! I'm not buying the game, but I know you kitties are all going goo-goo and ga-ga over it... and maybe it'll actually shut you little babies up for a couple of weeks! Maybe keep you pre-occupied for a bit - long enough that you'll finally put your sick liitle pompoms away, anyways. (Hopefully.)

Good golly, this board is starting to look like one of those perverted little message boards on that gamecubeland site. *Ack!* What's with you people, anyways?!? I can, like, picture you kitties hanging out at vg retailers with your pompons, cheering everybody that walks out of the store with a GameCube! LOL! *Ack!* *Aaack!*

[Gadfly2317]

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Don't bother.
The XBox isn't for you.

The XBox is for real gamers.
The system would go to waste in the hands of little brownie hounds, like yourself, who only buy, like, 3 new games in a given year. Just keep playing with your toy there, kitty.

Boy, I almost can't wait for Mario Kart Double Ass to show up, at this point! I'm not buying the game, but I know you kitties are all going goo-goo and ga-ga over it... and maybe it'll actually shut you little babies up for a couple of weeks! Maybe keep you pre-occupied for a bit - long enough that you'll finally put your sick liitle pompoms away, anyways. (Hopefully.)

Good golly, this board is starting to look like one of those perverted little message boards on that gamecubeland site. *Ack!* What's with you people, anyways?!? I can, like, picture you kitties hanging out at vg retailers with your pompons, cheering everybody that walks out of the store with a GameCube! LOL! *Ack!* *Aaack!*</div>

You're not getting Mario Kart, huh? Even going to rent it? This is a game I can't imagine a "real" gamer passing up---totally fun, scoring a near perfect 10. I think this xmas season has been one of the best of this generation, with Mario Kart, Crimson Skies, Beyond Good and Evil, and Prince of Persia. 3 of the 4 above games are available on GC, as are True Crime, SSX3, and many others. You do realize it's complete BS to claim GC gamers only have 3 games a year to choose from. The N64 NEVER had the level of high quality third party games that the GC has been getting. It is a perfectly viable system for gamers who only want to own one game system and want to play the best of what's out there AND play killer nintendo exclusives like Metroid and Mario Kart. How's that for whipping out my pom poms?

What, exactly--just out of curiosity--is a "sick little pom pom?" I'd like to get a couple, you know, maybe dipped in blood, for when I'm in the mood to cheer on xbox. I always figured gamecube cheerleaders would prefer cute purple pom poms.

[Gaming Geezer 78]

You're not getting Mario Kart, huh? Even going to rent it? This is a game I can't imagine a "real" gamer passing up---totally fun, scoring a near perfect 10. I think this xmas season has been one of the best of this generation, with Mario Kart, Crimson Skies, Beyond Good and Evil, and Prince of Persia. 3 of the 4 above games are available on GC, as are True Crime, SSX3, and many others. You do realize it's complete BS to claim GC gamers only have 3 games a year to choose from. The N64 NEVER had the level of high quality third party games that the GC has been getting. It is a perfectly viable system for gamers who only want to own one game system and want to play the best of what's out there AND play killer nintendo exclusives like Metroid and Mario Kart. How's that for whipping out my pom poms?

What, exactly--just out of curiosity--is a "sick little pom pom?" I'd like to get a couple, you know, maybe dipped in blood, for when I'm in the mood to cheer on xbox. I always figured gamecube cheerleaders would prefer cute purple pom poms.

What's wrong with you Gadfly? You need NEON GREEN pom poms to chant for Xbox! This whole post has skewed off-topic and become brain-dead.

The fact of the matter is that Gamecube has enjoyed great 3rd party support compared to the dismal showing of the N64. Though, the Xbox is still way ahead of the curve not only in the amount of 3rd party titles, but the quality of them. And the quality issue of Gamecube games boils down to Yamauchi forcing them to go with 1.5 gig discs rather than standard 5-9 gig DVD discs. Something Nintendo will have to wait until the next generation of consoles to recitify.

But in any event and getting back to the main topic, the Nintendo figures are misleading. Nintendo is the #2 best selling console for the month of October only. Nintendo has tried to misconstrue the information and make people think they have the second largest installed userbase in North America which is simply untrue. Xbox still has around a 1.5 million unit lead over the Gamecube.

[trebor]

Don't bother.
The XBox isn't for you.

The XBox is for real gamers.
The system would go to waste in the hands of little brownie hounds, like yourself, who only buy, like, 3 new games in a given year. Just keep playing with your toy there, kitty.

Boy, I almost can't wait for Mario Kart Double Ass to show up, at this point! I'm not buying the game, but I know you kitties are all going goo-goo and ga-ga over it... and maybe it'll actually shut you little babies up for a couple of weeks! Maybe keep you pre-occupied for a bit - long enough that you'll finally put your sick liitle pompoms away, anyways. (Hopefully.)

Good golly, this board is starting to look like one of those perverted little message boards on that gamecubeland site. *Ack!* What's with you people, anyways?!? I can, like, picture you kitties hanging out at vg retailers with your pompons, cheering everybody that walks out of the store with a GameCube! LOL! *Ack!* *Aaack!*

That would hurt if I actually valued your opinion. You and your opinions, like the country of Japan, don't count.

I edited this post because I realized I gave you too much respect with a real reply. I'm done with you.

Later, chum.......p.

[Glockstar]

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You're not getting Mario Kart, huh? Even going to rent it? This is a game I can't imagine a "real" gamer passing up---totally fun, scoring a near perfect 10.</div>

Perfect 10... pfffft!
On my scoring sheet, the game's looking like a 2.0! I gotta take, like, 8 points off for all of those annoying characters that they put in the game!

<div class=\"smallfont\"> I think this xmas season has been one of the best of this generation, with Mario Kart, Crimson Skies, Beyond Good and Evil, and Prince of Persia. 3 of the 4 above games are available on GC, as are True Crime, SSX3, and many others. You do realize it's complete BS to claim GC gamers only have 3 games a year to choose from.</div>

I don't know about it being "complete" BS, but...
well... actually... I never said that "GC gamers only have 3 games to choose from" - I said that GC fanboys (like trebore) seem to only buy about 3 games per year.

I too think that this Christmas season is on jam... but I've felt that way about the whole year!

I've read that the gaming companies themselves are pretty optimistic about the holiday season as well. And in the article that I'm looking for there's lots of relevant sales numbers - with regards to the subject of this thread at least - too. I can't find it right now, though - maybe I'll find it once I get home and edit/add it later.

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The N64 NEVER had the level of high quality third party games that the GC has been getting. It is a perfectly viable system for gamers who only want to own one game system and want to play the best of what's out there AND play killer nintendo exclusives like Metroid and Mario Kart. How's that for whipping out my pom poms?

What, exactly--just out of curiosity--is a "sick little pom pom?" I'd like to get a couple, you know, maybe dipped in blood, for when I'm in the mood to cheer on xbox. I always figured gamecube cheerleaders would prefer cute purple pom poms.</div>


Well I, kind of, agree with you here too... the N64 did not have great third party support. The N64 was the 'Nintendo and Rare show', and that was about it!

But the GC has poor 3rd party support too. It's better, but it's still bad. And it's Nintendo's fault. It's also what a lot of us have been getting at for over a year now!

Now that you have an XBox, you also have more choices... and I predict that it won't be long before you see that for yourself.

As far as "sick little pompoms" go...
...anything fanboy-istic is pretty "sick", don't you think?
I mean, what's it all about?

But, whatever.
Game on.

[trebor]

buzz buzz buzz


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