Xbox 360 vs PS3 multi console owner perspective.

[DrunkenThumbmaster]

First off my family owns a Wii as well but I'm not including it because 1. Too much typing and 2. It's not as fun for whatever reason.

System features.

The PS3 has Blu Ray which I like a lot. Upscales DVD's really good. Comes with a Web browesr. It sucks though it isn't even compatable with flash :confused:. Supposedly it's really good at streaming media but you have to download a program. And then delete all the codecs on your PC. I have never even tried it seems troublesome. Though.

The X360 I've watched 1 dvd on it I think. And I wont ever again probably since I have a PS3 sitting right next to it. But they do have a lot of downloadable movies. Which intially I thought was stupid but it's cool. The download times are really fast. And at about 40% you can start to watch the movie with no hiccups. I've downloaded 2 movies Transformers in HD and some other Zombie flick that wasn't half bad. Not as convient as Blu ray movies though. I do like the custom soundtracks from a MP3 or the ability to rip cd's and playing them through my home theatre makes my 360 my premiere music playing source in the house.

Streaming media is easier using a Media Center P.C. I have only done this once. It's not a feature I'm big on.

Which one is better? In extra features it comes down music vs. movies and I love both. Sony's streaming is better because it can be done with any PC with just a download. The 360 needs a media center PC. In the end I use the PS3's extra features more so it wins for me.

The build of the Systems.

I'm one of the few that actually thinks the 360 looks better. The PS3 is big shiny dust magnet! But it runs quietly. I actually never realized the noise the 360 put out till Waco made a post here. I was going to refute him but tried it out first and damn! It's loud! If you're listening for it. The 360 has a infinitely better controller I hate the six axis and will be getting Burnout Paradise for the 360 based on that (custom soundtracks as well). The 360 has the RROD which automatically is a loss. 2 for the PS3.

Online. The PS3 to date hasn't reached Xbox 1 standards I mean some games don't even have voice chat. The 360 with live just blows away the PSN feature wise. Someone here called it just a messenger service. When you actually have friends you play online with it makes all the difference in the world to turn on your games recieve a invite and bam go straight to the lobby with your friends waiting.

Downloadable games is a place Sony may shine. They are defitinely more ambitious but right now the amount of content and variety and qualtiy of the live games just beat out the PSN. The PSN has home coming and maybe more good games but right now live has them beat.
1 for the 360.

Games the 360 has more period. Better reviewed, bigger sales. By any measure the 360 games library is superior. Plus the fact I generally enjoy the 360's line up more. The PS3 has yet to release a true blockbuster. The closet was Rfom which wouldn't be in the top 10 shooters on the 360. The PS3 upcoming year seems more impressive. But from live arcade to full blown retail releases the 360 wins hands down.

Tech graphics. This is funny because PS3 exlusives do look a bit better overall they defitinely don't have as many performance issues. But multiplats all for save 1 or 2 look better on the 360. And the gap in graphics just isn't that big. Recently I've just finished playing Drake and the game get's lauded for it's facial animations same with Heavenly Sword but to me Mass Effect looks better and more natural than both. PS3 is still going off potential but right now it just hasn't been shown in the games. So right now it's about even. With the PS3 more than likely pulling head later this year.

So there you have when it comes to games and playing games it's 360. When it comes to features and future outlook it's the PS3. Those of you who also own both what do you think.

[Tappy_Tibbons]

Umm...all you have do do is dl Tversity and you can use it on either PS3 or 360 and it works like a charm...you do NOT need a media center PC for 360...in fact, I have a media center PC and I ONLY use Tversity.

[DrunkenThumbmaster]

d'oh. Well like I said I don't really use the feature. Maybe I'll get into so I can see some of my porn on the big screen.

[T.Tashi]

Umm...all you have do do is dl Tversity and you can use it on either PS3 or 360 and it works like a charm...you do NOT need a media center PC for 360...in fact, I have a media center PC and I ONLY use Tversity.

Damn I keep meaning to try that. So you just dl to your pc and the 360 detects it automatically?

[Mochan]

Yeah, I keep meaning to try that, too. Porn on the big screen, that is.

[Rogue Bounty Hunter]

System - Have to give this to PS3. No RROD to worry about. Besides that, I like switching games without the 2nd game automatically starting, and of course Blu-Ray (something I'll use more in the future).

Games - The 360 wins in this department, but it's not a huge game like some think. The 360 wins, due to the few exclusives it does have like Halo 3, Mass Effect, and Ace Combat 6. The PS3 version of NCAA Football 08 is, IMO, the best football game out.

Online - Both the 360 and PS3 blows in this department. The PSN sucks big time, not only because they update once a week and that update isn't always good, but when there's something worth downloading, it usually takes longer than needed compared the the 360 downloads. Also, updates are a pain. Downloading them, and then having to turn around and install them is time consuming when there's so little time to game on weekdays. LIVE, on the other hand, has been sucking a lot lately, to the point where if I was actually paying for it, I would want my money back. I already know when my year is up I'm done with LIVE Gold, unless I use some 48-hour trials or something. Any game that I really feel like playing online in the future (like Mercs 2), I may just get on the PS3. Speaking of LIVE Gold, I honestly don't think it's worth however much it is a month or year. As much as the PSN sucks, it's easier to put up with knowing that the full online service is free, and there's no penalty for being a LIVE Silver member when it comes to demos (one of the dumbest decisions by MS).

Overall - I like both. I buy games for both. I play games on both. If I had to choose just one for the rest of this gen, then it would be PS3.

It sounds like I'm down on MS, and I am. I think all three of the console manufacturers suck, but MS is just sucking more right now.

[joquito]

Umm...all you have do do is dl Tversity and you can use it on either PS3 or 360 and it works like a charm...you do NOT need a media center PC for 360...in fact, I have a media center PC and I ONLY use Tversity.


You don't even have to use Tversity, all you need to do is use Window Media Player 11 and you can access your media that way, it even plays most divx files. Why on WMP11 you can use divx, but not WMC, I have no idea. Its also faster using WMP11, you just don't get the pretty GUI. I stream WMV-HD movies to my 360 over a wireless network using WMP11 with no hiccups.

[T.Tashi]

I can't get it to work at all. All I get is protocol errors. Anyone else have tversity through their PS3?

[T.Tashi]

I can't get it to work at all. All I get is protocol errors. Anyone else have tversity through their PS3?

Btw, setting it up with Windows Media Player was a breeze.

[thelastword]

Are you talking about the DLNA protocol error? Just saw that for the first time as I booted up TVersity...All I did was hit the circle/back button and hit TVersity again, all my videos loaded up just fine.


Tips: Under settings at the General tab, Let Tversity choose and autodetect your DLNA device, do not choose PS3, go with the recommeded settings.

If you think you might be having port conflicts with another device, modify the port under Settings-General, just go +1 from the default port number, but generally, you should leave that as is, as I don't think that the DLNA protocol error is a result of port conflict.

Under Settings-Transcoder......maximum video and image resolution, I set that based on the highest output my tv can provide. In my case 1080p, so I have my settings at 1920x1080 in both slots. Under windows media encoder you can slot up to WMV9 as it produces the best results, leave the checkbox above it ticked as you're only choosing the encoding quality via WMV7, 8 or 9.

Optimization is obviously checked to quality and it's also quite necessary to choose your appropriate lan speed and connection as that affects the quality of the output. It makes no sense checking quality, when you're going to attempt running HD videos via wireless B, it's not possible, the quality will suffer and there will be severe sticks and stutters because your network speed isn't up to par.


Compression speed should be checked to minimum for better quality, and generally everything else stays on default.

[T.Tashi]

Are you talking about the DLNA protocol error? Just saw that for the first time as I booted up TVersity...All I did was hit the circle/back button and hit TVersity again, all my videos loaded up just fine.


Tips: Under settings at the General tab, Let Tversity choose and autodetect your DLNA device, do not choose PS3, go with the recommeded settings.

If you think you might be having port conflicts with another device, modify the port under Settings-General, just go +1 from the default port number, but generally, you should leave that as is, as I don't think that the DLNA protocol error is a result of port conflict.

Under Settings-Transcoder......maximum video and image resolution, I set that based on the highest output my tv can provide. In my case 1080p, so I have my settings at 1920x1080 in both slots. Under windows media encoder you can slot up to WMV9 as it produces the best results, leave the checkbox above it ticked as you're only choosing the encoding quality via WMV7, 8 or 9.

Optimization is obviously checked to quality and it's also quite necessary to choose your appropriate lan speed and connection as that affects the quality of the output. It makes no sense checking quality, when you're going to attempt running HD videos via wireless B, it's not possible, the quality will suffer and there will be severe sticks and stutters because your network speed isn't up to par.


Compression speed should be checked to minimum for better quality, and generally everything else stays on default.

Found the problem. My Windows Firewall was on. :rolleyes: I didn't know and I just overlooked checking it since I have a hardware firewall and other software firewalls to monitor stuff that dials out. By chance I decided to check. Turned it off and it detected it right away.

The protocol errors are coming from my DNS-323 storage device, which is no biggie. It's just RAID 1 storage. It's not something I access frequently. Thanks for the checklist.

[T.Tashi]

Well the media server function is far from perfect and there's lots of places to troubleshoot. MWP and Tversity seem to conflict at least sometimes, WMP likes to corrupt files it seems. There may be codec conflicts.

I get lots of lag with Tversity. I didn't get it with WMP before I got Tversity to work, but now I do.
Tversity seems to hate youtube with the exception of 2 links.
The Ninja Warrior and Game Previews video feeds from G4 were corrupt.
Some formats work, some don't (like avi)
I did get NPR's Fresh Air and Insomniac's Full Moon Podcasts to play flawlessly.

Then there's the router settings that may or may hinder the streaming.

Lots to study and unfortunately networking is not my forte. I imagine most of this could be bypassed if I ran a ethernet cable to the PS3, which I could do. I do have a 25 foot cable I could run to it that would be out of the way, but it'd be nice to get the wireless optimized. Well my first stop is tversity's faq pages.

[thelastword]

Well, I'm running wired, but something you should know. If you are getting corrupt files under WMP11, it's because not all Divx formats are supported on the PS3 as yet, most, but not all. So you will have instances where your movie won't play and will default to "corrupt" under WMP11 media server. The other thing to note, WMP11 does not trancode files over your network stream like TVersity or even NeroMediaHome, so you only get to play files compatible with the PS3 via WMP11.

As for codecs, you do get a codec pack with tversity, you download and install it after the initial Tversity installation. What I'm using now is the CCCP or combined community codec pack, I've even removed the codec pack that I installed with TVersity recently, even though I had no issues or conflicts having the two of them installed. There's a piece of software at the CCCP site called insurgent, if you want to test if any codec pack is going to conflict with CCCP it will detect it and you can remove it prior to installation. Try out CCCP and the wired connection as you're suggesting, as there's more bandwidth to be had there, don't forget the PS3 is the only console that supports gigabit lan, so more bandwidth to you.

As for conflicts between Tversity and WMP11, never had any, sometimes I have Tversity, WMP11 and Nero running at the same time, another great feature of the PS3 is that you can access several media servers at any one time. I'm thinking you may have a few issues to sort out with your wireless connection with your current setup, so you may also opt to jump into network settings and ensure everything is sorted out there if you really fancy that setup. I'm thinking that you're the only using your wireless bandwidth though, and there aren't too many hoggers on your stream if any? That can cut down on available bandwidth to you if everyone at your home is on one stream. Anyways, I'm wired for now, when I do get a wireless router it will be a wireless N from D-link, I'm still a heavy wired fan for the most part.

[T.Tashi]

Well, I'm running wired, but something you should know. If you are getting corrupt files under WMP11, it's because not all Divx formats are supported on the PS3 as yet, most, but not all. So you will have instances where your movie won't play and will default to "corrupt" under WMP11 media server. The other thing to note, WMP11 does not trancode files over your network stream like TVersity or even NeroMediaHome, so you only get to play files compatible with the PS3 via WMP11.

As for codecs, you do get a codec pack with tversity, you download and install it after the initial Tversity installation. What I'm using now is the CCCP or combined community codec pack, I've even removed the codec pack that I installed with TVersity recently, even though I had no issues or conflicts having the two of them installed. There's a piece of software at the CCCP site called insurgent, if you want to test if any codec pack is going to conflict with CCCP it will detect it and you can remove it prior to installation. Try out CCCP and the wired connection as you're suggesting, as there's more bandwidth to be had there, don't forget the PS3 is the only console that supports gigabit lan, so more bandwidth to you.

As for conflicts between Tversity and WMP11, never had any, sometimes I have Tversity, WMP11 and Nero running at the same time, another great feature of the PS3 is that you can access several media servers at any one time. I'm thinking you may have a few issues to sort out with your wireless connection with your current setup, so you may also opt to jump into network settings and ensure everything is sorted out there if you really fancy that setup. I'm thinking that you're the only using your wireless bandwidth though, and there aren't too many hoggers on your stream if any? That can cut down on available bandwidth to you if everyone at your home is on one stream. Anyways, I'm wired for now, when I do get a wireless router it will be a wireless N from D-link, I'm still a heavy wired fan for the most part.

I prefer wired too. Wireless is convenient and the speeds are ok in theory, but it's not quite there yet. I ran a ethernet cable to the PS3 and viola, all lag is gone. Since Tversity transcodes, I can even play most of my avi files. I do have some files with weird compression encodings for the sake of space, so I guess that's causing problems.
Still can't play G4 or youtube videos. In fact none of the internet TV channels work, so I still have to figure that out.

I keep my wireless pretty secure though. I routinely check the status and logs and I don't even broadcast my SSID. My wife is the biggest hog since she leaves her PC on with all her programs running in the background. PS3 downloads would take hours when she was online, and mere minutes when I turned her PC off. I did finally get her to delete some of her bandwidth hogs and turn her PC off when she's not using it.

One very cool feature I'm very happy with. I buy lots of Asian movies, some of which won't play or play correctly in American dvd players including the PS3 but play fine in my PC or laptop. I also rent a lot of Tagalog movies, which most of I can only find locally on vcd, which the PS3 won't play. The last time I connected my laptop to my TV to watch a movie. Well now I can just copy or play it from the PC or directly from the dvd drive. That's just freakin' awesome. I now have a vcd player in my PS3. Vcds are really popular in Asia cause they're so cheap. So when I wanna get my Philippine horror movie fix, vcds are usually my only option. So my home entertainment just got a lot more convenient.

[T.Tashi]

G4 just starting working. Go figure.

[thelastword]

So my home entertainment just got a lot more convenient.Yeah, it's quite convenient, personally, I don't use the internet feeds, but I tried them since you mentioned it and they seem to be working just fine. Welllll, at first I had some corrupt feeds, but that had more to do with the quality of my connection at that time. If you right click on the G4 or YouTube feed/link you will get an option to update, It makes sense to do so, as it refreshes the feeds and populates your list with more shows from G4, as they become available, so if you didn't have cinematech or street fury at first, you would get it. Issues like corrupt data would be less frequent or eliminated entirely, as was done in my case. After I updated the feed link, youtube Videos play 100% of the time. I'm getting at least a 90% ratio on the G4 videos, so it's pretty solid there as well.

Since we spoke about G4.......

For the information of all, the XPLAY show has recently been relaunched, they're a bit more focused now, less skits and comedy routines than before. I believe they relaunched on the 14th of this month. The shows are Live broadcasts just like AOTS, and there's a new one on every day, monday to friday, filled with informative previews, interviews and reviews. It also airs normal xplay time.

I think it's dawned on them that they've lost quite a few viewers in the past, the network in general that is, and with xplay, they're trying to refocus. Frankly, Xplay was the last show that I use to watch on G4, but that was sometime ago, so a refocus should really help them as the skits were really getting out of focus and overall the show was not as compelling when it was extended play. The writers focused too much on silly skits. I think now that the show is live, more of the real adam will come through and they will have a better show for it. Perhaps it's a little too late though, as I for one, don't watch as much television anymore, heh! even my cable company don't carry G4 anymore. So of course, those who do have G4 and are into xplay, just some info for you.

[DrunkenThumbmaster]

They had a a live demo of Prototype last night. The game is by avalanche dev's behind the underrated Incredible Hulk ultimate destruction. It looks sick Merc's 2 has some compeititon.

[Gamer From '78]

Yeah, it's quite convenient, personally, I don't use the internet feeds, but I tried them since you mentioned it and they seem to be working just fine. Welllll, at first I had some corrupt feeds, but that had more to do with the quality of my connection at that time. If you right click on the G4 or YouTube feed/link you will get an option to update, It makes sense to do so, as it refreshes the feeds and populates your list with more shows from G4, as they become available, so if you didn't have cinematech or street fury at first, you would get it. Issues like corrupt data would be less frequent or eliminated entirely, as was done in my case. After I updated the feed link, youtube Videos play 100% of the time. I'm getting at least a 90% ratio on the G4 videos, so it's pretty solid there as well.

Since we spoke about G4.......

For the information of all, the XPLAY show has recently been relaunched, they're a bit more focused now, less skits and comedy routines than before. I believe they relaunched on the 14th of this month. The shows are Live broadcasts just like AOTS, and there's a new one on every day, monday to friday, filled with informative previews, interviews and reviews. It also airs normal xplay time.

I think it's dawned on them that they've lost quite a few viewers in the past, the network in general that is, and with xplay, they're trying to refocus. Frankly, Xplay was the last show that I use to watch on G4, but that was sometime ago, so a refocus should really help them as the skits were really getting out of focus and overall the show was not as compelling when it was extended play. The writers focused too much on silly skits. I think now that the show is live, more of the real adam will come through and they will have a better show for it. Perhaps it's a little too late though, as I for one, don't watch as much television anymore, heh! even my cable company don't carry G4 anymore. So of course, those who do have G4 and are into xplay, just some info for you.

The Xplay relaunch has really improved the show. I agree, they did too much stupid crap. Like the Link & Tingle skits. I hated those. But....the "Solid Snake on a Plane" skit was the best EVAR! When Snake says "Time for the in-flight meal, my BOOT in YOUR ass!" I just lost it! :p

[Gamer From '78]

Looks: I originally thought the PS3 was to put it bluntly: FUGLY. But it has grown on me. I'm not entirely sure, but the orignal 60-gig model's chrome looked like cheap plastic. That's going by the demo stations at Wal-Mart and such. The 40-gigger I bought has more of a brushed metal look to it. Much nicer. I was just dusting it off (which I have to do often, it attracts dust like a Swiffer Sweeper) and noticed on the right side all the little logos in grey for Blu-Ray, DVD, HDMI, etc. It's a nice feature list and looks good on the side. Another thing I don't like about the system is the smooth black finish. Simply by lightly wiping the dust off, under bright light you can see "dust scratches" all over the finish. It looks fine under normal lighting, but I just hate that crap. My Sony PC monitor and my HP laptop both have similar plastic on them and both also show those same "dust scratches." But it's a minor niggle. The front-loading slot is nice and the felt-like material effectively keeps dust out of the drive bay and (so far) has caused no harm to any of my discs. All in all, I would call it a wash between the looks of both systems. Both look attractive to me in their own way.

Video Playback: Simply put, Blu-Ray for all intents and purposed will be the ONLY next-gen format within two years and I feel it has superior video quality, judging this versus the Xbox 360 HD-DVD player. It up-converts all my DVD's and there is no $180 bill to upgrade or buy an add-on. This one easily goes to the PS3.

Audio: PS3 has better audio the the 360. Hell, it has better audio than all of my other components! Normal volume for the 360 is louder and clearer than any other component I own prior to purchasing a PS3. I have to turn the PS3 down at LEAST 33% from what I normally play the 360 on for the same range of sound.

Controller: The 360 controller wins in every single thing I can think of except the D-pad which is a gimp, and the Sixaxis has a built-in battery you charge through the system without having to invest in a rechargeable pack or AA batteries. Other than that, not much else to say. The sticks, analog triggers, weight, design, ergonomics, comfort and just about everything else on the 360 controller beats the Sixaxis down into the dirt. The Sixaxis is mostly a gimmick IMO, but some games like Heavenly Sword make effective use of the motion sensing where you can guide Kai's arrows, or Uncharted and Resistance (among others) where you can shake the controller to break free of an enemies grasp.

Game Graphics: Now we are hitting the REALLY important stuff. Since devs have come to grips a bit more with the system (and given a bit of extra time to polish) the PS3 multiplat titles are on-par with the 360 games for the most part. A few here & there like Assassin's Creed are slightly superior on the 360, a few here & there like Oblivion are superior on the PS3. Basically a wash here. As for exclusives, the PS3's 1st year games are above what the 360 is doing right now. Generally, I notice this in things like the framerate (which dips on the 360 more often), screen tearing and pop in. At the very least, PS3's first year games are easily on par with the latest 360 offerings and slightly above in most respects where 1st party games are concerned. Given Sony's history with the PSOne and PS2 and how the games looked significantly better as each year went by, I think we will see stuff that just can't be done on the 360 toward the end of 08. Resistance 2 is a good example of this as is Killzone 2 with graphics that could make a PC-L33T snob fill with envy.

Games: Right now, it's an easy win for the 360. Bioshock, Mass Effect, Halo 3, Dead or Alive 4, Gears of War and a handful of other exclusives really made the 360 shine in 2007. In contrast, the PS3 finally delivered in the second half of 2007 and games like Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, Ratchet & Clank Future, Unreal Tournament 3 and Ninja Gaiden Sigma made PS3 owners happy. 2008 looks shaky for the 360 though. Most of their devs have been swallowed up or bought their freedom ala Bungie. That leaves Rare and Lionhead. In comparison, Sony's heavy hitters are going to fight like hell in 08. Metal Gear Solid 4, Gran Turismo 5 & Prologue, Resistance 2, Final Fantasy XIII and others will finally deliver the games that Playstation fans crave. 07 was the year of 360. 08 will be the year of PS3.

Storage: This is where the 360 will hurt more & more as each month goes by. 9 gig DVD discs were fine "back in the day" but developers are struggling to squeeze data onto them now. Blue Dragon was a whopping 3-disc affair and the upcoming Lost Oddyssey is supposedly FOUR discs! :eek: That's 36 gigs...which would easily fit onto a single Blu-Ray disc. The first game I saw that suffered from the smaller DVD-9 360 discs was PGR4. The devs had to choose between weather effects, time of day, etc. They couldn't do everything they wanted. Had PGR4 been released on the PS3 and built with it's Blu-Ray capacity in mind, the game would have undoubtedly been superior.

With most all 3rd parties going multiplatform, it's up to the exclusives and the pricepoint for Sony and Microsoft. Sony has the largest stable of developers and will continue to aggresively cut the price of the PS3 to compete with Xbox 360. The PS3 has represented a better hardware value from day one with all it's included features. But going strictly for playing games, $400 for a PS3 compared to $350 for a 360 is NOT a big difference.

Sony continues to gain ground in both Europe and Japan over the 360. But North America is not a wash yet. Sony can still turn it around. The PS3 is clawing ahead in sales on a monthly basis of 20k or more over the 360 worldwide.

[T.Tashi]

Also don't forget you can easily upgrade the PS3's harddrive just like any other PC or laptop. In fact it's easier. If you do, just be sure to get a harddrive that's the same speed as the default drive, just in case to avoid any issues.

If you don't have it get TVersity and a mpeg encoder like Videowrap ($49 but worth it for my needs) or a freebie like Media Encoder. Now I can stream mpeg4 video from my PC right to the PS3 and my HDTV. With Media Encoder you have to know your way around the coding, but there are web sites where you can get the correct parameters for encoding videos.

[DrunkenThumbmaster]

The PS3 big franchises are coming. And it just enforces my xboxness. Because honestly I'm not really interested in it. I won't play FFXIII even though FFXII was better I got to the part where you go into the sewers to see a king or kill a king I forget but I just came out the desert Tashi should know what I mean. After that I gave it up the gameplay bored me to tears.

Killzone2 please this game is going to get 6's and 7's lastword will proclaime media bias. I thought the first one was fun online better than Socom 3. The campaign was boring.

Resistance 2 does seem interesting and I'm going to get it. Even though I feel the first one was just decent. I will pick this up.

GT5 not a fan of the series period.

MGS4 part 2 the first 1/4 of the game was good before it went to sh!t. MGS3 was total sh!t for the first 3/4 and the first 1/4 the jungle may have been one of the worst gaming experiences of last gen. The final leg was awesome though. The stupid Fight against the boss shooting her in the face with a rocketlauncher was pretty stupid though. Part 4 I've already seen more cutscenes than I care to have in a whole game and it hasn't even been released. The actual gameplay trailer though has me hoping and I'm going to buy I just hope it delievers. Others like WKS and LBP the former don't care won't buy the second does look interesting. Personally it's just a lot of question marks there is no game coming that's really doing anything with gameplay that's got me really psyched. Hell I'd rather play RGV2 over any of the exlusives.

It's a reason the last 2 gens the PS has been my secondary platform and it's because I'm just not a huge fan of the games Outside God of War of course.

I can't wait for some of these releases to come to size up the library.

MS needs to get devs to push there Hardware with exlusives. It makes no sense that the best looking games are multiplats. Seriously Sony's devs are pushing the Hardware even though the games are Sh!t lair, HS (my wife likes it and even finsihed it). MS teams just don't seem intent on pushing the Hardware so it get's the perception that it's not as powerful.

Look at COD4 obviously the system is good enough to do that since it did it. But why aren't any 1st party published games looking that good. Why does Flatout look better than Forza???

MS would say they are focusing on gameplay first but I want both.

[ilnadmy]

MS's first-party development is seriously stunted. Why do you think MS is moneyhatting third-party exclusives? Because their in-house development staff are about as talented as a bunch of retarded, cross-eyed monkeys.

[silversparrow]

A lot of you might find this strange but my biggest reason for choosing the PS3 over the 360 wasn't the 3rd party exclusives like FFXIII or MGS4, but rather Sony's 1st and 2nd party games. God of War I/II, Shadow of the Colossus, Ico, Ratchet & Clank 1-3, and Jak 1-3 were some my favorite games last gen. This gen I'm particularly interested in Team Ico's two projects, whatever they may be. God of War III, now scheduled for late '09, is another title I'm eagerly anticipating. I'm also looking forward to the sequels of Uncharted and Resistance, these are promising new franchises.

[slade]

My friend traded me Call of Duty 4 for Uncharted and Ratchet recently. Not that I particularly wanted Call of Duty 4 but I figured I might as well try it out since he was offering it up for trade. Anyway, from all of the first fifteen minutes I could stomach of the game, it doesn't look anwhere near as good as the premiere PS3 exclusives. In fact, Genji 2 looks better.

[Gamer From '78]

A lot of you might find this strange but my biggest reason for choosing the PS3 over the 360 wasn't the 3rd party exclusives like FFXIII or MGS4, but rather Sony's 1st and 2nd party games. God of War I/II, Shadow of the Colossus, Ico, Ratchet & Clank 1-3, and Jak 1-3 were some my favorite games last gen. This gen I'm particularly interested in Team Ico's two projects, whatever they may be. God of War III, now scheduled for late '09, is another title I'm eagerly anticipating. I'm also looking forward to the sequels of Uncharted and Resistance, these are promising new franchises.

I'm in the same boat when it comes to my "PS" love. God of War is one of the single most fantastic series I have ever played. It came out of nowhere and blew me away. Insomniac is a very talented developer, I just never did click with the Ratchet games. Resistance is pretty good however (not as good as Gears mind you!) and from what I have seen of Resistance 2, it looks stunning. The first Killzone was "ok" in my book, but absolutely nothing special. Killzone 2 looks fantastic, I just hope that all the extra time they are taking with it is being devoted to a stronger storyline and better gameplay. Naughty Dog has had me hooked since the first Crash Bandicoot. I finished Uncharted last night and was THOROUGHLY satisified with the game from beginning to end. More than that, I couldn't put it down! That's a damn fine game in my book.

Heavenly Sword-although short and derivative of God of War is a stellar action title. I have about -1 on my interest scale for a new Final Fantasy, but I want to play Metal Gear Solid 4.

Believe it or not, even though Unreal Tournament 3 was the game that finally pushed me over the edge to buy a PS3, Ninja Gaiden Sigma has brought me close on more than one occasion in the past.

I currently own Heavenly Sword, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Resistance, Uncharted and Unreal Tourney 3. I won Motorstorm and Lair on eBay for about $20 each (new/sealed copies). So even though these games aren't to my taste per-se or are pretty much @$$ ala Lair, they are bargain bin prices so what the hell. I've done that with more than a few 360 games. Crap like Farcry Vengeance, Ninety-Nine-Nights, Need for Speed Carbon and a few others come to mind. :(

On a side note, I FINALLY received my Rock Band Fender back today. I mailed it off December 28th and received it back today, January 23rd. Almost a month? And unless my eyes & ears mistake me, it's definitely a refurb. That I am ok with as long as it holds out and actually works, but EA screwed me out of my free game and there seems to be a "screw loose" or something of the sort in the body of the guitar since it rolls around in there when I tilt the damn thing. :mad: Long ago, I swore off buying EA stuff for the most part. I wanted Rock Band badly and got it as a Christmas gift. I hope the new Activision brings their might to bear on EA and kicks their asses.

[DrunkenThumbmaster]

I can't believe so many people like drake so much. It's fun but personally the game is pretty forggetable. And Heavenly Sword I'm going from decent to this is just a bad game. The combat is Fvcking awful. I'd believe that Slade's lovechild Genji 2 is better. And although Heavenly Sword is lauded for it's acting and cutscene's this over dramatic crap is worst than some no budget off broadway film. When my wife was finishing up the game. At the end you talk to the Heavenly Sword I guess this is supposed to be dramatic but it's funny some of the worst acting since Baby Boy.

[Rogue Bounty Hunter]

At the end you talk to the Heavenly Sword I guess this is supposed to be dramatic but it's funny some of the worst acting since Baby Boy.

Ever notice that most movies that Tyrese has been in, he's acted just like he did in Baby Boy? Baby Boy in 2 Fast 2 Furious. Baby Boy in whatever movie that was when his kid was taken (I think...?) The only movie Tyrese wasn't acting like his Baby Boy character was Transformers.

Oh, yeah. I completely disagree with you about both Heavenly Sword & Uncharted, though Tomb Raider Anniversary is kind of making me forget about Uncharted for a while.

[Cuddly Knife]

Unless I was tripping, I think in HS Nariko was talking to the sword after every level. She was talking to someone. If there was something worth mentioning on the good side for HS, it was the voice acting. Bohan was a riot, with all his ambitions and his disdain for his sorry excuse of generals.

I can't wait to get DMC4 to clear the nasty taste that HS left in my mouth for action games. Actually, after I beat HS, I went and beat Sigma(on Hard:D) to remind me what a good action/platformer should be.

[Rogue Bounty Hunter]

Actually, after I beat HS, I went and beat Sigma(on Hard) to remind me what a good action/platformer should be

After I played Dead Rising, I popped in any other game I had just to remind myself what a good game was.

[ilnadmy]

After I played Dead Rising, I popped in any other game I had just to remind myself what a good game was.

LOL. That's harsh. :D

[Cuddly Knife]

LOL, yeah, ouch.

Dead Rising rules your house.

[ThaMaskedGamer]

I can't believe so many people like drake so much. It's fun but personally the game is pretty forggetable. And Heavenly Sword I'm going from decent to this is just a bad game. The combat is Fvcking awful. I'd believe that Slade's lovechild Genji 2 is better. And although Heavenly Sword is lauded for it's acting and cutscene's this over dramatic crap is worst than some no budget off broadway film. When my wife was finishing up the game. At the end you talk to the Heavenly Sword I guess this is supposed to be dramatic but it's funny some of the worst acting since Baby Boy.


Its funny because I know Baby Boy is a bad movie, but I actually liked it for some strange reason. I mean I haven't seen it since then and don't own it and knew it was bad, but it was a good story because I know so many brothas like him, just mamma's boys that end up mooching of the women they use, so it was like watching the lifestory of a bunch of my old homies. Plus it was funny as hell when Ving Rhames choked his azz up on the couch and he started cryin' like a like bee-otch after talkin' that shiz.

Tyrese is way overrated(why did they even put him in Transformers?) and John Singleton's only good movie to this day remains Boyz-N-The Hood!

[DrunkenThumbmaster]

Shaft was good too. Peoples was his best character even better than Dough boy.

[ThaMaskedGamer]

Shaft was good too. Peoples was his best character even better than Dough boy.


No Peoples is just a damn good actor. I forgot that guys name, he was in I think Syriana and few other movies, I should IMDB him. I wasn't feeling Shaft, I just couldn't see Sam Jackson as Shaft. Though I love Sam, he has been making some crap movies lately.

[DrunkenThumbmaster]

I thought the movie was cool. The thing is he wasn't the original shaft (his nephew) But he played the part good. The movie had a lot of good actors in it as well.

And yeah Sam hasn't met a script he wouldn't take a check for.

[NEO-360]

After I played Dead Rising, I popped in any other game I had just to remind myself what a good game was.

You didnt like Dead Rising? I dunno what you been smoking but I actually like the game. You are entitled to your opinion RBH. But how can you not like this game? Not too many games out there offers what DR does. Carnage, blood, guts, challenging, and just flat out funny as hell at times. I mean if most of you guys can stomach playing short eye-candy like Heavenly Sword & R:FOM games like Dead Rising should be a breath of fresh air for most. But to each his/ her own. :p