So apparently MGS4's Framerate SUX!

[Tappy_Tibbons]

"...The latest build of the next Metal Gear entry held a frame rate at 30 frames per second and 60 frames depending on the amount of action displayed on-screen...."

http://news.punchjump.com/article.php?id=5369

PATHETIC SONY!!! What happened to all the buzz surrounding PS3's ability to run all games at 120 FPS?

CoD4 ran at the SAME LOCKED 60FPS on PS3 than did 360, it's going to beat the crap out of MGS4 in every way and people don't worship it like some idol like the rabid idiotic MGS4 fans.

You guys better NEVER rip Halo again!

[Mochan]

Oh noes it's like Mass Effect all over again! {snort}

[silversparrow]

PATHETIC SONY!!! What happened to all the buzz surrounding PS3's ability to run all games at 120 FPS?

Depending how much developers can get out of a platform, they are going to have to find a compromise somewhere between graphical detail and framerate. The two are not mutually exclusive. At one point the former is going to impact the latter.

[Mochan]

Anyway, that "buzz" on 120fps games is like several years old and long proven to be bull about a year ago. I'm not entirely sure why it is important in discussing MGS4.

[silversparrow]

Yeah, 60 FPS is more than good enough for any type of game. It may be essential for games centered on precision of input, like DMC or NG, but the MGS series works fine at 30 FPS.

[Fivespot]

But 120 is a bigger number so that must make it better. ;)

Obviously 60 is sufficient for any videogame. Good enough for me at least.

[Mochan]

I do think that 30fps though isn't ideal for MGS in first person mode. In third person I think it's fine though.

[T.Tashi]

I think it's obvious why Xbots can't stop talking about MGS4. It's not gonna be exclusive long, the framerate sucks, the game is gonna suck yada yada yada. Where is that really coming from?

[thelastword]

According to IGN.....


One of the features found in Metal Gear Solid 4 is that the game is fully compliant with the new Dual Shock 3 controller, so we were able to feel every shot that we fired and every bullet that hit us in the game, and this could be a solid indication that Sony is back on track with the force feedback functionality that it's current home console is missing.

Another thing that we noticed is that the game looks absolutely stunning. Everything is rendered in fine detail from the war-torn middle-eastern city that the level took place in, right down to the individual hairs on Snake's 'stache. When we asked whether or not the game will be able to run at 60 fps at 1080p, Konami said that things were still being optimized and they can't promise anything, things were on the right track.

Link (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/844/844078p1.html)

[Cuddly Knife]

I see no problems with 30fps for MGS4. The others ran at that rate, and the game never suffered for it. It did occasionally dip in certain action-heavy areas, but still, it wasn't any kind of deal.

[thelastword]

MGS2 run at 60fps, MGS3 was 30 fps.....

[folken001]

Snake gets laid (check MGS3) and Master Chief doesn't (check Halo 1-2.5). Therefore, MGS > Halo.

So, all in all, Halo sucks.

[Tappy_Tibbons]

I dunno, the initial trailers for MGS4 were AWESOME...the latest were a choppy mess.

[Cuddly Knife]

That's not Snake, that's Big Boss.

And what trailers are a choppy mess, Tapps? The only ones I've seen have been solid.

[Tappy_Tibbons]

The one with the fight w/ the weird ninja chick.

[folken001]

That's not Snake, that's Big Boss.

And what trailers are a choppy mess, Tapps? The only ones I've seen have been solid.
i never said SOLID snake. HA! have you ever played simon says?

[Cuddly Knife]

LOL, good one. :)

Wait, you did say MGS3. HA!

[folken001]

As a fan of men, I am just glad somebody got some. Not the space Janitor though. He only gets cyber with that hologram lady in his mind.

[DrunkenThumbmaster]

As a fan of men, I am just glad somebody got some.

A fan of men eh? I knew it! Not that there's anything wrong with that :D

[folken001]

A fan of men eh? I knew it! Not that there's anything wrong with that :D
Yes. I have so much love to go around, even for a xbot such as yourself. Be grateful biatch!!!!!!!

[DrunkenThumbmaster]

Yes. I have so much love to go around, even for a xbot such as yourself. Be grateful biatch!!!!!!!

Preach on Pimp!

[Cuddly Knife]

"A fan of men." ROFL!!

And hey, sharing is caring. Aint no fun if the homies can't have none, and all that jazz.

[folken001]

Damn straight.

[ThaMaskedGamer]

For heaven sake don't complain about the frame-rates. This game has already been pushed back too far, plus when it does release it will lead in Japan so that will be further delay here in the states. The PS3 needs games, now! If they believe people are going to complain about 30fps they will just add another delay and try and achieve 60fps.

Let's face it people, PS3 is simply not the beast we thought it was! I've gotten over it, I think its about time we all get over it. The fantasy of 1080p 60fps games is not going to happen unless it is just a shallow game or maybe a racing game. So acting shocked when PS3 chokes up is getting old.

I think the more immediate question is when are the rumble controllers coming? If DMC4 is released before rumble controllers, guess what, i'm getting the 360 version! I would like to get the PS3 version, since it is a PS3 franchise, but with no rumble and NO gamer points, why should I? Sony is just too damn slow, they are still arrogant and have no sense of urgency. PS3 is the most boring console ever. If there were no 360 the PS3 would look attractive, but you just can't ignore the fact 360 is there smokin the 'eff out of the PS3. But Sony is just lumbering along as if they are the only player in this space.

[Gadfly2317]

I think the more immediate question is when are the rumble controllers coming? If DMC4 is released before rumble controllers, guess what, i'm getting the 360 version! I would like to get the PS3 version, since it is a PS3 franchise, but with no rumble and NO gamer points, why should I? Sony is just too damn slow, they are still arrogant and have no sense of urgency. PS3 is the most boring console ever. If there were no 360 the PS3 would look attractive, but you just can't ignore the fact 360 is there smokin the 'eff out of the PS3. But Sony is just lumbering along as if they are the only player in this space.

After Gears, were the early months of the 360's second year really that mind blowing? All this drooling you guys are doing is over what was just the 360's THIRD Xmas season. And I fully agree, its been an impressive amount of highly reviewed software that the came to the 360. I don't think anyone expects the one year old Ps3 to be spewing them out as fast as the 360 is currently.

It's foolish to expect a flood of AAA titles to be pushed it in qtr1. That just doesn't happen on any console. But 2008 is shaping up to be a good year.

[ThaMaskedGamer]

After Gears, were the early months of the 360's second year really that mind blowing? All this drooling you guys are doing is over what was just the 360's THIRD Xmas season. And I fully agree, its been an impressive amount of highly reviewed software that the came to the 360. I don't think anyone expects the one year old Ps3 to be spewing them out as fast as the 360 is currently.

It's foolish to expect a flood of AAA titles to be pushed it in qtr1. That just doesn't happen on any console. But 2008 is shaping up to be a good year.

Yeah it was actually, I get the exact timeline mixed up because a) there have been so many damn good 360 games and b) i didn't play them all oh and c) i'm getting old. But around that time you had everything from Crackdown to GRAW2, R64, Splinter Cell Conviction, and many others.

Like I said before it was Sony who last year bragged about having hundreds of games coming this year. And since Sony hasn't been delivering since games have been getting pushed back, they shouldn't worry at this point what time of the year they release these games. What are you saying, it is okay to do what Sony always does, release nothing until the Fall holiday period?

Plus, in general, its time that trend be put to bed. These companies and the console makers need to spread out releases more evenly throughout the year.

Speaking of Gears, weren't both MGS4 and Gears showcased at the same time at E-3? Anyway, all i'm saying, is we shouldn't kick up dust about 30fps, just let them finish the damn game. Oh and PS3 is now officially one year old, the time is way over for making excuses for it.

[Tappy_Tibbons]

The difference is the 360 was NEVER pushed to be the most powerful console since sliced bread, but of course, Sony, in all it's arrogant glory, has to make all these bogus claims that it NEVER backs up.

[folken001]

kinda like M$ is saying how 360 is now the most reliable console?

[silversparrow]

The difference is the 360 was NEVER pushed to be the most powerful console since sliced bread, but of course, Sony, in all it's arrogant glory, has to make all these bogus claims that it NEVER backs up.

Hmmm, so MS's claim that aliasing would be a thing of the past with the 360 wasn't bogus? Or what about Halo 3 running at 720p? :rolleyes: